Chilbolten Crop Circle - ET answer to 1974 Arecibo Message?
In a recently recorded interview, Dr Frank Drake responded to questions concerning the scientific detection of extraterrestrial intelligence. He stated his view that radio signals are the optimal way in which extraterrestrials would communicate with humanity. He gave NASA communications with satellites and space missions as an example of the appropriateness of radio signals. He said that the Search for Extraterrestrials Intelligence (SETI) should focus on those parts of the electromagnetic spectrum that are the most appropriate for radio signals from extraterrestrials. In answer to the question of whether some crop circles were a possible extraterrestrial response to the 1974 Arecibo message, Drake said: "aliens would know better than to communicate with humans in this ridiculous way". In response to Drake’s comments veteran crop circle researcher, Colin Andrews pointed to various features of crop circles that reflect an extraterrestrial origin. Andrews may well be right. Crop circles could be created by extraterrestrials using torsion fields for remote communications and other purposes.
Dr Drake said that the "universe has made it so that radio is the preferred method for interstellar communication." Radio signals, however, would form an extremely cumbersome and impractical means for interstellar communication. The distance between the Earth and the closest star, Proxima Centauri, would require approximately 4 years for a radio signal to travel the distance. This would be very impractical and so another form for communications would be necessary. In response to Drake's comment, Colin Andrews said: "I dont believe there will be a signal of any kind because ET is already here, right under SETI's noses and are interacting and influencing earth events, by means of some crop circles." The idea that Crop Circles are the means by which extraterrestrials communicate with humanity is very plausible. A possible clue is hidden in the very name “crop circle” - that is the swirling clockwise or counterclockwise patterns of the stalks used to make crop circles. Could the principle of rotation be somehow used in both making crop circles and how extraterrestrial communications occur for interstellar distances?
A torsion field describes the influence a spinning object exerts on its environment. In the case of a slowly spinning stationary gyroscope, for example, the torsion field has been observed to be almost zero. However, for moving gyroscopes rotating at velocities above 20,000 RPM, the torsion field has been observed to have a number of interesting properties. Russian scientists have been the leaders in the study of torsion fields. The most revolutionary results so far reveal that torsion fields impact on gravity and travel faster than electromagnetic radiation or radio signals. Professor Nikolai Kozyrev, a Russian pioneer in the study of torsion fields, experimentally confirmed that torsion fields travel at least 109 times the speed of light. The speed was observed to be even greater when it came to detecting stars in real time:
When the telescope was directed not at the visible but at the true position of a star, the detector then registered an incoming signal that was much stronger. The registration of the true positions of different stars could be interpreted only as registration of star radiation that had velocities billions of times greater than the speed of light.
Stars generate enormous torsion fields due to their very high angular momentum. Kozyrev’s observations were experimentally confirmed by numerous other Russian scientists together with a few western colleagues. This made it possible to study stars in their actual astronomical position, rather than its past position from radio waves or visual confirmation by telescope.
The work of Kozyrev and other scientists points to torsion fields as the optimal means for extraterrestrials to communicate over interstellar and even intergalactic distances. Powerful rotating gyroscopes using plasma traveling at several million RPM, for example, would be one way in which a torsion communication device could be developed. Each gyroscope could rotate at a distinct frequency that could be immediately detected at interstellar distances for communications. It would be analogous to building a cosmic piano that could be heard anywhere. If torsion field communication devices are the standard means of extraterrestrial communications, then we also have an answer to how crop circles are formed. Using some kind of torsion field generator and monitor, a crop circle could be created at great distances, even interstellar, by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations. This may explain videos of what appear to be the formation a crop circle by spinning plasma balls of light that appear to be under remote intelligent control.
The idea that advanced extraterrestrials use radio signals for communications, as Frank Drake suggests, is a 20th century anachronism. Russian astronomers have clearly demonstrated that torsion fields move at superluminal speeds and thus form the optimal way for interstellar communications to occur. Insofar as crop circles are created by some rotational generating principle or torsion field, they may well be, as Colin Andrews suggests, a form a communication by extraterrestrials. Remotely generated torsion fields may also explain some of the paranormal phenomena associated with crop circles that Andrews claims have drawn much official interest. The message to SETI scientists is that they need to understand torsion fields if they hope to communicate with extraterrestrials. Alternatively, they may simply catch a helicopter ride to the next series of crop circles.
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(1) Radio signals are used by ET spacecraft to communicate among themselves but not w/ their home planets, many light years away. (2) ET craft are the crop circle makers, though some are made by humans. (3) No object (and no energy wave) can travel through space at faster than C, light speed. The proposition, "Torsion field emanations can travel at velocities at least as high as 109 times the speed of light," is false. (4) There are other ways to communicate other than radio. (5) ET astronauts are extraordinary engineers, study life on Earth, and record major historical events.
How do you know there Doc? Gimmee a break! You don't know anymore about the ET's than any other earth human, doctor or not.
Has it occured to these scientists that other intelligences want to talk to the population of the planet through the means of crop circles rather than throwing radio signals only for a few select scientists to receive?
How do you know that extraterrestrials use only radiowaves ? Do you know their technology ? Can you explain it ? Can you explain what is a "Dimension" ? Why would they communicate with us ? If they are technoligically more advanced than us, there is no rational reason why they would want to communicate with us..... - For sure our religions are not attracting them ! They would know that we kill each other out of a diffrent belief and they would keep themselves away...... for own safety reasons.
And what if the ET's stopped to send us fancy crop cicles and instead humans are having their fun with it now ? I bet you underestimate humains ;)- Because Extraterrestrials are only humans !
Let's start with the misleding title of this article: "SETI Pioneer fails to debunk crop circles as ET messages". It suggests, a failed attempt to debunk something could be turned into a positive proof for another hypothesis. That's simply faulty logic.
Sad however is the fact, how uneducated people are, and how pointless und weird they guess around: To make that point clear: Gravitation (G) and gravito-electromagnetism (GEM) propagate much faster than c=3E8m/s. That's a hard fact, since already Kepler (1571-1630) and Laplace (1749-1827) discovered, planetary motions wouldn't work as observed without an (apparent) instantanious update of graviational forces; and would even violate conservation of momentum end energy. Today, we know the speed of G and GEM; however I have reasons to not post this value and the proof.
Creation of a huge GEM-Dirac-pulse signal [induced by a mass-current im(t)=dm/dt] is easy: Detonate a nuclear bomb and your presence is already advertised within LYs.
Interesting but I would like to know why these ET communications are done only on night time.
Every few months a person with people who look up to him or her will start claiming that radio waves are the way to contact E.T.
This is ridiculous in my opinion since most reports about E.T. claimed some form of telepathic power. A race with such a power doesn't need radio waves.
A race that has a civilization that reaches 1 million years probably abandoned radio a long time ago. Stop looking at the "contact concept" with "human" eyes.
Love to all,
Roel Poelwijk
The Netherlands
There is no point in arguing with Frank Drake.
He has a few radio telescopes to work with, whereas the crop circle people have the entire planet surface available as a communications platform. Whoever it is trying to communicate with us on Earth, he/she is tenacious, persistent and imaginative. We must learn more about this brilliant communicator.
@Shol'va: I am impressed for your knowledge about logic. I agree with that and the fact that gravity is quite more faster than light... Still i think your suggestions about disclosure are not that clever.
I used to work with Frank Drake during the now-extinct NASA SETI Project. He is a very talented scientist who I still highly respect, but ample evidence clearly indicates that we are being monitored by other races. The SETI researchers are collectively hiding their heads in the celestial sand. They simply have not studied the UFO evidence in a detailed and systematic way.
Fank Drake has beeen a great catalyst to helping humans think about life in the universe, but it seems that he is so conditioned by the scientific rationalism that he represents that he can no longer consider alternative pieces of evidence that few scientists can deny. This is the danger of anchoring ourselves to fixed modes of thinking. But thanks Frank for the push beyond our comfort zone. Time now to face the real world and leave old fashioned rationalism behind and consider new ways of looking at the universe.
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Hi Dr. Umana: please keep your dogmas to yourself! St Albert wasn't keen on experimenting - small wonder - because his Rothschild-financed rantings defy logic and reality. Check it yourself: where Einstein dabbled with experiments, he falsified and omitted numbers to suit his goal, namely, to throw humanity's evolution back two hundred years. He misinterpreted the Michaelson-Morley results. No scientific advances have been made using Einstein's lies! Where did all the technical achievements of the last decades come from? Extraterrestrials? You better check up on history, Germany was looted at the end of WWII, these documents were made available to US industry. The Nazis enriched Uranium using laser technology by the end of the thirties! No Manhattan project centrifuge parties. We used to discard faulty theories, now we discard the experiments that prove these theories wrong. Kozyrev was a genius, Einstein was a hoax.
In my opinion, so-called scientists who have stopped being open-minded & have given up to find the truth are not real scientists. Here are my thoughts and theories on this crop circle phenomenon: I think some are man-made (plants are harmed) & some are paranormal (plants unharmed). I think that crop circles could be a form of E.T. communication . Balls of light (UFO) have been spotted right before a crop circle appears (there is even a daytime footage of it) …& here’s an even far-fetched idea…If E.T.s are intelligent, telepathic,& have highly evolved consciousness (from what abductees & experiencers have reported) …If these E.T.s can communicate to another human being with just the power of their mind…..did it ever cross anyone’s mind that maybe the E.T.s also have the ability to communicate with plants (look up Cleve Bakster)--that E.T.s can “tell” the plants to form these “messages” for us. I think it’s arrogance to think that E.T.s would only use & can only use radiowaves.
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