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Religion and Death in Denver


  • JR Bailey Casper Christianity Examiner 6 years ago

    Hello Hollie,

    I found your article as interesting as it is revealing of yourself and quite possibly, of Buddhisms' preoccupation with the preeminence of the temporal and corporeal.

    This is quite the opposite of biblical Judeo-Christian doctrine and is probably the reason why you consider that other counselor's admission that he goes home to pray for the spiritual welfare of his patient's souls.

    When, I must ask, is it a bad thing(unsound)to pray for the constructive enlightenment of a person's soul?

    You see, both biblical Judaism and Christian doctrine teach that each person has but one life on this Earth, or as the Apostle Paul puts it in Hebrews 9:27 "It is appointed unto man once to die, then the Judgment."

    His letter to the Hebrews is an interesting book, written by a Levitical Jew of the Pharisee School, to learned Jews of similar doctrinal foundations.

    More in my next.

  • JR Bailey Casper Christianity Examiner 6 years ago

    Faith to the biblical Jew is not a casual thing, nor certainly a tentative concept. Faith in the biblical contexts is not a matter of what is convenient to a given situation, Old Testament and New Testament Faith is what provides the compass to a person going through ANY given situation.

    This is the dichotomy which so divides an Inclusivist Faith such as Buddhism from an Exclusivist Faith such as Judaism or Christianity.

    We have one chance to make our relationships right with God, by His Grace Alone (Ephesians 2:8-10). We ourselves can do nothing to attain salvation, it is solely the gift of God to us.

    Works based Faiths, such as Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, Shinto, etc., or the cults which subscribe to a Christian theme (JW's, Mormons, Oneness, etc.), also works based, are ever at odds with classical biblical Christianity.

    Which is why your description of the Christian counselor's prayers as unsound, was so telling.

    Your article was well written and I commend you on it.

  • Andrew 6 years ago

    Great post, Hollie, you get a big Amen from me on this one. To meet someone, not-knowing is key. Buddhism is just as capable of rigid orthodoxy, of course, but at its best, it provides for its own dissolution. To pervert an old Buddhist metaphor, once you use the boat to cross the river, you don't need to carry it around and bash other people over the head with it!

    as for the ethical question you raise, I'm inclined to agree--it isn't that there's a problem with praying for others after the fact; the problem is the implication that fundamentally, according to his faith, the only way for him to help these people is to convert them. Therefore, whatever connection he might make with them is going to be impeded by judgment or pity, obstructing his own heart, I think. Same old same old, concepts getting in the way of fully experiencing life, happens all the time...


  • Hollie 6 years ago

    Hmm ... I have no problem with prayer, but if we pray that someone will only be ok if he/she takes Jesus Christ into his/her life, then what kind of a pluralistic world are we? Do we really believe that it is only through Christianity that a person can be redeemed?
    My personal belief is that Jesus would be appalled if he saw what some Christians are doing in his name. It seems to me that he was a very open-minded man who wanted others to open their hearts. Does opening one's heart mean that s/he has to be a Christian? THIS is what I was talking about in the article.
    I have no assumption that all Christians feel this way ... it was that particular person, on that particular day.

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