Marion County, Oregon. The child abuse trial of Oleksandr and Lyudmila Kozlov was in it's fourth day Thursday, when the testimony of six of their seven children had finally finished. The Kozlovs, who immigrated to the US from the Ukraine in 2003, were acting as their own attorneys and had been questioning the children.They asked each child if they understood they were being disciplined according to Scripture.
"It doesn't say that you have to leave marks on us," their 9-year-old daughter said.
The Kozlovs, who claim they were only punishing the children according to God's Law, not only didn't "spare the rod" but, as their children testified, beat them with a wire, belts, a leather leash, a radio cord, an iron cord, sticks and hands. The injuries were noticed by at least one of the childrens' schoolteachers but the alleged abuse went unreported until three of the children, ages 13, 14 and 15, called 911 from a payphone and reported it themselves.Supporters from the parents' First Slavic Baptist Church as well as four other Russian churches and the Kozlov's former church, the Evangelical Baptist Church of Salem in Dallas, have publicly protested the arrests and trial. Such protests have taken on several occasions since the Kozlov's arrest in July.
More, including videos of the testimony, can be found here.
Photo Credit:
1) Oleksandr and Lyudmila Kozlov
2) Kozlov supporters in front of government building Oct. 30 (both photos are from www.golosmira.com)
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Will this judge tell them they are good people like the Neumann judge did?
What, or who is this "Neumann" judge? I'm not familiar with it, but it sounds like the "Newsom" judge who definitely didn't do that (although I'm sure that's because it's a different person! lol).
on photo credit you should fix editor!!!! the website should be golosmira.com not golosmiras.com
Thanks for the information on the error, vlad. It should be correct now.
They are not true Christians!!
this is was a good family and good people
Good people don't beat children. Unfortunately, some true Christians™ do.
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2.Exodus.20,12:Honor thy father and thy mother, that thou mayst live long in the land that you, the Lord your God is giving.
3.Deuteronomy.19.3:Let every fear his mother and his father.
Proverbs.13.24:He who spares his rod hates his child, but he who loves, who chastises him soon.
Proverbs.22.15:folly lies in the heart of the child, but the rod of correction will drive it far from him.
Proverbs.23.13:Do not let the child off to punish, because if you do lives with the rod, and they will not kill him.
Proverbs.23.13:Do not let the child off to punish, for he dwells with you when the rod, he will be not kill.14Du inhabits him with the rod, you will save his soul from death.
Proverbs.28, 24:who takes his father or his mother and says something, it was not sin, is the destroyer journeyman.
Proverbs.29.15:rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child himself, makes his mother's shame.
Proverbs.29.17:Discipline your child, he will amuse you and will do your soul gently.
Malachi.1.6:A child will honor his father.
Matthew.15, 4:God has commanded: "Thou shalt honor thy father and mother, who curses his father and mother is, who die.
Matthew.15, 5:But you teach: Who the father or mother says: "It is God given, what you should I come to use," which does well.
Matthew.19.19:Honor thy father and mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself
Mark.7, 10:For Moses said: "Honor thy father and thy mother," and "Anyone who curses his father or mother shall die the death.
Mark.10.19:You know the commandments well: Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt deceive anyone, Honor thy father and mother.
Ephesus.6, 1:Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is cheap.2 "Honor thy father and mother," this is the first commandment with promise: 3 "to you that's going well, and thou mayst live long on earth. " 4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the admonition of the Lord.
i dont care what mark or Matthew said you dont hit you child with wires if they did something wrong you talk to them or if that doest work send them to room tha fukk is worng with you people this is why people lose faith because of rettards like you
It is a mis use of scripture to say they were only doing what scripture teaches...as well as some of the quotations here on this site...The Bible teaches correction...even with the rod....but that is no different than a spanking paddle in the old days...never to break the skin, or leave bruises etc.....that is ridiculous and an excuse for stepping over the line...and an embarrassment to all of us who follow the Bible when they stood up and tried to use the bible as justification for their actions. I totally agree with you and join with you in saying ...My goodness folks..the kids are the ones who finally called 911...even the 9 year old girl said in court to her parents that the Bible doesn't say to leave marks on them!!! To my Bible friends I say....wake up and let's have some common sense here and correctly understand the Bible as well!!!
"provoke your children not to wrath" - these people certainly provoked their children. There is a difference between discipline (which is any sort of moral guidance, correction or punishment such as time out) and abuse, and these parents went way over the line and are not worthy of their children's respect.
Discipline is self-control. I'd like to 'discipline' whomever made people think the word means punishment.
It amazes me how people twist scripture to justify their actions....I can't say they aren't Christians...however...they crossed the line....just like the little girl said...the bible doesn't say to leave marks on them!!!! Shame on church leadership for not standing on the side of truth on this. Spanking is taught in scripture...but not leaving marks and bruises on your children...and where is the teaching on how to communicate with your children aside from spanking? Something is clearly missing in this situation whether in the church or their friends and church family I don't know but it needs to be addressed in this family by church leadership...this should have never gotten to a court of law....but obviously nothing was done so it had to be! Such a shame! Even the deacon admitted he would not have reported it! Wow...obviously there is something missing in his understanding of scripture, church responsibility and authority and civil authority!!!
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