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Pacquiao and Mayweather need to take a page from De La Hoya

Los Angeles - Maybe I can alienate myself to both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather supporters in one flurry of the keyboard.

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Before Oscar De La Hoya was the poster child for Golden Boy Promotions, the native of East Los Angeles was boxing's biggest star. 

The biggest and brightest,  a position that Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather seem content on battling for in separate bouts during the first half of 2010.

The unraveling on Pacquiao and Mayweather's proposed battle for early 2010 has been well documented, as Manny now finds himself on a collision course with Joshua Clottey and Floyd is set to tangle with Shane Mosley.

While both camps point the finger at the other for the drug testing fiasco, I say there is enough blame for both Team Pacquiao and Team Mayweather to share.

When De La Hoya was in his full fistic glory, I never remember him skipping over a fight due to a stalemate on contractual stipulations.  Loved him or hated him, The Golden Boy fought all comers.

How did Oscar become truly Golden? By fighting the biggest and best names over and over again, with no hesitation.

Pernell Whitaker, Julio Cesar Chavez, Genaro Hernandez, Felix Trinidad, Bernard Hopkins, Fernando Vargas, Manny Pacquiao, and Floyd Mayweather are all on De La Hoya's Hall of Fame resume.  He fought them all, and many others, without letting a scrap go by the wayside due to a roadblock at the negotiators table.

Pacquiao vs. Clottey and Mayweather vs. Mosley will be intriguing affairs for fight fans, but it is not the fight they wanted to see; a fight that failed to take place because of negotiations over a drug test.

Time for Pacman and Money to make sure the fight happens and carry the mantle of boxing biggest star without the business office drama.

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Comments

  • PISSED 2 years ago

    BOOOOOORIIING! go ahead and lick delahomo's ass all day.

  • True Fair Game 2 years ago

    I think boxing needs a standard body for rules and regulation rather than allowing promoters or boxers create contractual rule. if this continuous to happen, both promoter and boxers will take advantage of this. Promoter and boxer alike will dictate what ever is advantageous to them. may it be financially or game advantage.

  • jackal 2 years ago

    I must say, so should tell Gayweather to stop making his own rules in boxing so that this fight will happen. Stop being fooled by Gayfloyd just to hide from being a coward.

  • jackal 2 years ago

    I must say, you should tell Gayweather to stop making his own rules in boxing so that this fight will happen. Stop being fooled by Gayfloyd just to hide from being a coward.

  • dan 2 years ago

    the fight will happen this year. trust me coz the money is too big to pass up this one. both pacman and mayweather will win their fight and negotiation will be long and hard but at the end of the day, it will happen this year.

  • kibitzer 2 years ago

    Let me take take a NEUTRAL STANCE as well to express my opinion how 'the fight' gonna happen [NOTE TO FLOMOS: I'M A PAC FAN].

    The Blood Test issue can be resolved as fast as we can even imagine as long as both parties agree to meet at the middle:

    1. Floyd says 14 days, Pacquiao counters 24 days. How about random test until midnight bordering 19th & 20th day, then immediately after the fight.
    2. Floyd insist Blood Test, Pacquaio camp says he's got no personality to insist what is not required by the state athletic commission. Why not NSAC stepped into the picture and make a ruling, just for this event, requiring the 2 combatants to undergo BT. REMEMBER, Floyd demands the BT, Pacquiao wants BT as long as NSAC says so and not Floyd.

    NOW, let me take sides...... PACQUIAO vs MAYWEATHER WILL NEVER COME TO FRUITION!!!!

    I believe what Scoop Malinowski said that after the Cotto fight, Mayweather Camp immediately ruled out any Pac fight. Remember what Floyd, Sr. said that time?

  • kibitzer 2 years ago

    The only way for the fight to happen is..... if Mayweather will finally realized that 'ONLY CHANGE IS CONSTANT' in this world... mening, time will come that the '0' in his record will go and that's possible if not inevitable when he faces Pacman..... granting he passes thru MOSLEY.

  • betz 2 years ago

    The writer must not include Pacquiao and he must point only to Mayweather as caused of skipping the fight. It was only Mayweather changes the standard rule of the boxing that runs over a decades. As you can see, Pacquiao had faced every opponent that match to exiting fights. Floyd hand picks his opponents, the guys back then fought the toughest guys to prove they were the king of the hill, they were real men back then, like Oscar Dela Hoya &Manny Pacquiao, not pretty boys.

  • Prof.Puertos 2 years ago

    Delahoya never doubted NSAC floyd would like to dictate NSAC by demanding drug test.Any fight should be based on the rules and regulations set forth by boxing governing body like NSAC. Any boxer has no business to intervene in the existing policies. The job of the boxer is prepare himself for the scheduled fight. FLoydXYLOCAINE has no business of dictating NSAC what to do. If floyd wants to clean boxing because he himself is user, he should just recommend drug testing to NSAC. The issue here is not just drug testing but how to abide laws. Do you think floyd an american will be cheated by NSAC because NSAC is favoring a filipino PAC? Well the demand of floyd on blood testing is a manifestation of ignorance. I think floyd does not know about LAW because he did not even finished elementary.

  • Fidel 2 years ago

    Ricardo, ODLH fought these guys and he LOST to most of them! While you're at it, look at Manny's list and see that he fought the legends, the best and WON! Then look at the cherry picker's list, the guy who hasn't fought a welterweight.

    On them 'resolving' issues to fight, Floyd doesn't want this fight. If Manny agreed to Floyd's demands, Floyd will just come up with some more demands, until Manny gets a B!tch deal like Mosley. SSM is the champ and he was desperate so he gets a 35 share, a rematch clause, etc... and even then Floyd didn't want to sign!

    Floyd does not want this fight because he is a COWARD. No Flomo can ever call Manny a coward.

    On a final note, Pac Fans, please do not use the words "gay" and "gayweather" when describing Floyd. Have respect for gay people. Unlike Floyd, they are strong and courageous. To use the "gay" word with Floyd is an insult to gay people.

    God bless and have a nice day.

  • BOXING101 2 years ago

    BY:RECARDO LOIS:When De La Hoya was in his full fistic glory, I never remember him skipping over a fight due to a stalemate on contractual stipulations. Loved him or hated him, The Golden Boy fought all comers.

    AND NO OPPONENTS EVER STIPULATE FOR A RANDOM BLOOD TEST AGAINST HOYA MR SMARTPANTS LOIS,NOR FOR MAYWEATHER.
    UNTIL NOW YOU DONT GET IT MR WRITER!
    NOR DID MANNY SKIP A FIGHT!
    HE IS WILLING TO FIGHT FLOYD,I NEVER HEARD HIM REFUSING TO FIGHT FLOYD.

  • betz 2 years ago

    Mayweather's claim for greatness will not be cemented not unless he settled a fight against Manny Pacquiao. Floyd, forget BT, go for the standard rule and follow of what all tough-guys did who proved to live in give and take chances in the ring even if it means the chance of losing.

  • BUBOY 2 years ago

    Mr lois,did oscar dela hoya encoutered a boxer who stipulate a random blood test or out of the boxing world crazy azz demands?Even when he fought mayweather?...
    You said oscar never backs down,did you ever heard Paquiao refusing to fight?
    Did he ever said he doesnt want to fight Floyd?
    Oscar fought normal fighters,even Floyd was normal back then
    but when Manny came to be number one,he goes ballistic and when its time to fight,he found a way to jeopardize the fight!

  • doubletangoromeo 2 years ago

    back then ricardo when the world was young and lil floyd was on his formative years, he never heard the name of MLK and MALCOM X...and back then ricardo he was not the self appointed or the anointed one of the AFRICAN/AMERICAN ANTI DRUG CRUSADER that he is now!

  • driftwood 2 years ago

    This article is a BIG CRAP!

  • driftwood 2 years ago

    What??? r u nuts? This writer is a f***in Idiot!

  • driftwood 2 years ago

    Come on mr. examiner! you know its too f***in obvious that the monkey face boxer mayweather is afraid of PacMan. Im no PacMan fan to tell you, But Im no Mayweather fan either. This BT issueis not the real issue here! Its the SELF PROCLAIMED BEST P4P COWARDNESS the real issue here.

  • Taylor 2 years ago

    Boycott the fight of Floyd, if he has little PPV he will accept whatever terms the PACMAN will impose.

  • juan 2 years ago

    Maybe you were not told about floydie's new demands before he fights pac... bigger share of the pie & blood test up to the fight night.

    I'll give you a hint... FLOYDIE WILL NEVER FIGHT PAC CAUSE PAC IS HIS IDOL... google it "mayweather cheering pacquiao" ;>

  • RumirNero 2 years ago

    My apology Mr. Ricardo Lois, but there was a fight of Oscar dela Hoya that almost did not happened... if I can recall it right, there was a disagreement in the purse in his fight with Felix Trinidad wherein Oscar lose in the said match. The good thing was that both sides were civil in the negotiations.

    Unlike, Mayweather Jr with his criminal mind and bitchy attitude who attack the person of Pacquiao with baseless insinuations and demands just to get what he wanted thereby making the deal gone puff.

    Please don't insult the intelligence of the boxing fans by saying that Oscar dela Hoya was Golden then, and still Golden now.

    Please be informed that Oscar had been my idols for so many years not until he eventually he showed his TRUE COLORS, and become the character of "TWO-FACED" in the boxing world.

  • chakyun 2 years ago

    Golden Boy fighting almost everybody maybe true but it´s the promoter who´s calling the shot and who have last decision. That is why he builds his own promotion business. He maybe the golden boy and the biggest and brigtest boxer then, but it seems he is not applying those qualities in running his own business firm. He is a lousy businessman especially his partner Schaefer.

  • khalid 2 years ago

    Why fans are calling for both pacquiao and floyd to fight each other. Pacquiao is more than willing to fight floyd subject to the standing requirement of Pro boxing match. It is floyd who set condition beyond the existing rules. I think if the fans would want manny and Money to fight each other, you need to ask the UN to pressure floyd to fight manny without any condition.

  • Manny diehard fan 2 years ago

    Oscar is Oscar and Manny will always be Manny! I hope boxing writers would write something about the fans experiences when Manny Pacquiao fights!
    When I watch Manny's fight i feel like a young boy waiting for my ice cream! My hands perspire, I cant sit down even for a second! I shout and gets wild when Manny connects! All my problems disappear! I don't know any boxer who could make me feel this way! LONG LIVE MANNY PACMAN PACQUIAO!!!!

  • buddy philippines 2 years ago

    Mr.Lois. Sorry to disagree with you.The TRUTH IS ,PACMAN truly wanted to beat Mayweather jr. and agreed to fight him.Proof: PACMAN 1st signed the contract and was forwarded to Floyd jr. ,just like what happened to Mosley contract(Floyd was FORCED to signed) and again PACMAN challenge Mayweather, WINNER TAKES ALL terms and yet no reply.After the COTTO fight, The Mayweather camp decided last december 2009,they will NOT FIGHT PACMAN.This was exposed by media people. That explain why Mayweather jr. demands random blood test against a SMALLER warrior but NEVER against De la hoya,Hatton,Judah,and others.Mayweather camp can not believe PACMAN wins against bigger,stronger,boxers.,HATTON,COTTO. THUS,their evil false accusations. Deep in their hearts,they know Floyd jr.will be DEFEATED.

  • isidro 2 years ago

    Mr. Lois time have changed and people realized that ,that fight will never materialize even Pacquiao agrees to every Floyd's whims and wishes.Mayweather Jr. has something different in his mind when it comes to fighting Pacquiao,and it is going on,and on,and on 'till now.Yes, use Pacquiao outside the ring wherein he got the full advantage,he is an American and can express and play his statements at the delight of the listening or reading casual fans ,which are his real target.Even post Pacquiao era things won't change Floyd's mind regarding that Pacquiao trashtalking,it keeps him covered and in the headlines most of the time.Loved him or hated him i'll choose the latter he is brandishing his "clean the sport of PED" act ,but not really.

  • chicken floyd 2 years ago

    cmon dude, we all know why the fight between the two diddnt happen...gayweather never wanted the fight!he is so afraid to lose!

  • Blues_pogi 2 years ago

    hey Mr. Lois, why does pac will go with the rules of mayweather even though he never tested positive in steroids in any of his figthing career? who is he( mayweather) to dictate the rules in boxing? he's just a challenger here and pac is the champ.

  • ray 2 years ago

    i can't even understand why floyd suddenly becomes no. 2 pound for pound werein he fought only 1 for almost 2 years with marquez in a very advantageous way. Marquez has to move up almost 2 weigth division and during fght nigth floyd is 2 pound heavier that what the agreed weigth limit. Floyd standing now should be above no. 10 in ranking.

  • LIAM 2 years ago

    BOYCOTT MAYWEATHER'S FIGHT UNTIL HE FIGHTS PAC! AS FOR DELAHOYA THE BOXING WORLD KNOWS THAT HE IS THE GREATEST HYPOCRITE IN BOXING HISTORY ALONG WITH THE MAYWEATHERS!

  • Anselmo 2 years ago

    those were the glory days of Oscar.. but why oh why Oscar wont sign the waiver that was laid before him to show to the public his drug test results oh his previous fights?? im just wonderin', like you people wonder why PAC wont agree to random blood testing..

  • Oscar Dela Hoya 2 years ago

    HELLO WORLD...!

    I'M GAY...!

  • Anselmo 2 years ago

    those were the glory days of Oscar.. but why oh why Oscar wont sign the waiver that was laid before him to show to the public his drug test results oh his previous fights?? im just wonderin', like you people wonder why PAC wont agree to random blood testing..

  • ruben garcia 2 years ago

    before cotto fight, the mayweathers told us that floyd will whoop his ass with or without steroids but when they saw how pacman managed cotto's powerful punches, they chicken run with allegations together with oscar. Its a simple thruth. no more excuses. hehehe

  • Monix 2 years ago

    Simple logic Mr. Writer, Oscar was not forced to take the drug test by taking blood before his fights, a rule newly implemented by boxer (not a commisioner). Now I ask you, will Oscar bow down to his demands, set aside his pride, if he were in Manny's shoes???

  • wine 2 years ago

    It is not the drug test that is the real issue here. It is the hallucination of the mayweather of being the king in boxing and whatever they want they can dictate it. Damage brain from drug abuse is always dreaming.That is the actuition of the mayweathers.They want to dictate their terms take it or leave it. They are tyrants they want to enslave manny just like what they did to JMM.He fight JMM w/o following the contracted weight.

  • kuratong 2 years ago

    It's more appropriate to say "OSCAR AND FLOYD SHOULD FOLLOW MANNY'S FOOTSTEPS". How can anyone who didn't fight the best be voted as BOXER OF THE DECADE, ONLY CHAMPION in 7-WEIGHT, 100 MOST INFLUENTIAL, TIME COVER (last for a boxer was 20+ yrs. ago-Tyson), SOUGHT BY A-LIST CELEBRITIES/PRESIDENTS/SENATORS), 60 MINUTES TOPIC, ADORED BY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS WORLDWIDE, AND DESPITE ALL OF THESE, HE"S THE HUMBLEST BOXER AROUND DESPITE HUGE JEALOUSY and HATRED ON FLOYD'S/OSCAR's PART. RICARDO LOIS, SIMPLE QUESTION, DID FLOYD/OSCAR COMBINED ACCOMPLISHED EVEN "ONE" OF MANNY's ACCOMPLISHMENTS??????

  • jyap 2 years ago

    in the end he supported a fraud, supporting gayweather's claim that pacman is a drug user even without evidence. it lessened my respect for golden boy.

  • PISSED 2 years ago

    THIS WRITER OBVIOUSLY HAS A SEXUAL LONGING FOR OSCAR DELAHOMO!

  • barok 2 years ago

    boxing nowadays is not fought in the ring, but in media! lots of interviews and press releases, accusations here and there, lots of blah blahs. thanks to the mayweathers and oscar dela hoya and welcome to the new world of boxing! they're making a circus out of it. lots of hypocrites and liars.

  • burito 2 years ago

    take a page on what?...Oscar?..never skipped a fight,well because he fought normal fighters aside from Floyd who became psycho when he heard Manny is the new p4p king and loved by boxing fans!
    And when did Manny skipped fights,floyd had been difficult to deal with that is why the fight never happened,its a big mistake to add Manny in,your viw fits Floyd very well but not Manny,he never backed down to any challenge for the record!

  • sabikonanga 2 years ago

    Sign the darn waiver!

  • on 2 years ago

    yah okey ...But did Oscar asked for blood testing in any of those fights you mentioned?

  • Brock 2 years ago

    Hey Mr. Lois, I think it's only Mayweather who needs to take a page from Dela Hoya.
    Don't expect Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight gonna happen it's because Floyd from the beginning has no "Intention fighting Manny Pacquiao" cause he knows Manny can Knock him out.
    Mr. Lois if Floyd really wants to fight Manny Pacquiao
    fight without any condition or that self ruled Commission.

    Remember this Mr. Lois this is not a " Business Office Drama ".
    It's a " REALITY "

  • Weight Buster 2 years ago

    I think PBF will not change. Manny is easy to deal with. But having that stupid demand of blood testing is not cleaning boxing because it's only one person. It should be internationally implemented throughoutAsia , Europe, Australia and specially America. Floyd wants is personal not for all the boxers. This is a hard protocol to tackly. The whole world will have a hard time figuring out what's practical, efficient,safe and non- factor to individuals finances and conditioning. Until boxing realize how they are going to apply practically without discrimination then we can say somebody is ducking or using illegal if he doesn't follow. So right now it's floyd that needs to do something not Manny. I don't care how good PBF is , he has to prove it without fear or without trickery. Just say fight no more rules except what Boxing association requires. Majority of boxers are dealing with it and they survive without extra rules. Sports is for entertainment and passion of individual.

  • mY A§§ n ur mOuTh 2 years ago

    I can tell who is really a big fan of that pU§§Y gAy ChiCkEn Weather by reading all thier comments that sounds Gay...i got 3 words to say to all the fans of GAyWeAtHer 1 HIMSELF,,,,""F__U__Loos3r§!haha!

  • pacfan 2 years ago

    barrera, marquez, morales, diaz, hatton, cotto, et al had fought pacquiao like true warriors in the ring. while the hypocrite ODLH opted to quit on his stool instead. and now you're saying that manny to take a page from the fake crusader ODLH? what page? the page of cowardice? and yes ODLH fought the best fighters, however, unlike pacman, ODLH lost every time he fought with a best fighter (trinidad, mosley, pacquaio, etc) and even lost to a big mouth (but mediocre boxer who perfectly mastered the art of cherry picking to make him appear as a good boxer), coward, xylocaine user and also a bonafide fake crusader (like ODLH himself) merryweather. be enlightened mr writer. I understand that we all need to get paid in order to live. but in what manner is up to ourselves. personally, I believe that man does not live by bread alone.

  • Marley's son 2 years ago

    Ric, did you write this just to get our attention?????? I believe you are NOT THINKING MAN!!!!You know very well that Manny wants to fight Floyd to stop his BAD STUFF but Floyd created an alibi just to avoid Manny in the ring, the Mayweather family has the ducking script to follow to the letter...and the director lil boy floyd did all the manipulation.we all know Manny passed all the requirements laid down by NSA Commission!!!Why come back to the same issue? Your saying this now just to get our attention with part ill intention to discredit the Great Manny...In a way you are out of bounds and stop your non sense, or you may end up not neutral,or viased.BE CAREFUL MAN.i RESPECT YOU IN EVERY WAY..yOUR main topic,hey Ric, you are wrong again.Oscar is not even mentioned among the greatest & Manny is way way more than this man you call the Golden, sorry to disagree. Please rephrase everything you have told us!!!There is no way I will agree with you on this one..MY OH MY!

  • rays 2 years ago

    Mr. "examiner", don't you think this article may have exposed your knowledge of the sport(?)

  • fred w 2 years ago

    Can't you just state the TRUTH, Floyd Mayweather is afraid to fight Manny P. PLAIN AND SIMPLE! He is only fighting Mosely because he had no choice! Mosely is old now anyway, Floyd ducked him for 10 years. Manny is in his prime so Floyd has 10 more years of ducking left! That's a long time Floyd!

  • SkyWalker 2 years ago

    Dude, Oscar was able to take all comers because these comers were willing dance partners. But when you take Fraudweather putting all stumbling blocks against guys he didn't want to fight then there's no fight. Pac and Mosley have been taking all comers and more.

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