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Joe Lieberman's Fascist agenda to strip Americans of their Constitutional Rights

Senator Joe Lieberman is sponsoring a Bill with Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown called the "Terrorist Expatriation Act" that would strip terrorist suspects on their citizenship. The bill applies to any American that supports a foreign terrorist organization or any organization that is deemed a supporter of terrorism by an ally of the United States. The bill gives the State Department the power to determine who is a terrorist and strip away their citizenship.


Lieberman introduced the Bill stating "The State Department will make an administrative determination… the State Department will now have the authority to revoke their citizenship… they will not enjoy the rights and privileges of American citizenship in the legal proceedings against them…. he could then be tried by military commission as the Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent that he is."


Even though Lieberman claims the Bill is to target Americans who have joined Islamic Terrorist Organizations such as Al Qaeda, it has implications affecting many American political dissidents not just those who one would usually think of as terrorist. Hypothetical scenario's that the bill might apply to are Americans such as former Congresswomen Cynthia McKinney who are helping out Palestinians in Gaza with food and medical aid. Since Israel considers Hamas a terrorist organization and Israel is considered as ally by the US Government.


Another scenario is American Patriots who are helping out the Afrikaner Resistance Movement which is secessionist movement in South Africa. Lets say the ANC Government in South Africa declares the movement a terrorist organization and the US state department decides to go after Americans who are helping the organization.

Joe Lieberman also sponsored another Bill in the Senate with John McCain called the "Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act. This Bill which has been described as the "Patriot Act on Steroids" gives the President the power to determine if an individual poses a terrorist threat so that they can be detained and interrogated. Under this Bill the suspects would loose their Miranda rights and Sixth Amendment Right to an Attorney and fair trial.


McCain explained it stating "we still don't have a clear mechanism, legal structure, and implementing policy for dealing with terrorists who we capture in the (alleged) act of trying to bring about attacks on the United States and our national security interests at home and abroad."


Lieberman added "These are not common criminals. They are war criminals. Anyone we capture in this war should be treated as a prisoner of war, held by the military, interrogated for information that will protect Americans and help us win this war and then where appropriate, tried not in a normal federal court where criminals are tried but before a military commission."


These two bill sponsored by Joe Lieberman tie in to each other. One bill strips Americans of their citizenship and other of their right to a fair trial once they loose their citizenship. Many conservatives supported the Patriot Act under Bush thinking it would only be against Islamic Extremist but now Obama can use it to go after those in the Tea Parties and Patriot Movement who have already been labeled by the establishment as "domestic terrorist".


These bills create a dictatorship were the State Department is given the power the strip the rights of any American citizen especially political dissidents. Maybe some day when Americans take back their country this law may be used against the same traitors who are behind this bill who also happen to have ties to foreign terrorist.

Comments

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    Got that right, Robert. I teach government; this is fascism and NOT a constitutional republic. This strips rights by dictate (dictatorship) and destroys the US Constitution these traitors swore to support and defend.

    This is America's descent into fascism. Will the people recognize and refuse it? Or will they throw-away our nation from fear of terrorists?

  • Banderman 4 years ago

    Heck, legal American citizens don't enjoy the benefits of American citizenship now; what's different?

  • Redondo John 4 years ago

    Lieberman's moral compass points up his ass, directly at his head. Forget him.
    But McCain still allows himself to be presented as a war hero even though he cooperated with the enemy and made anti-American propaganda speeches, and later was instrumental in moving Native Americans onto radioactive land to assist mining interests in taking over their ancestral lands.

  • Lou 4 years ago

    I have applied for illegal alien status. Do you think that will help?

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    Friday 14 Sept 2001

    On Friday morning, Governor Pataki and boarded a miltary helicopter at New York's Port Authority heliport and flew out to McGuires Air Force Base in New Jersey. It was just two of us, with one security guard each, and we did not disclose where we were going.
    The President was flying to New Jersey following the memorial services at Wahington National Cathedral.

    While we waited for him to arrive, I spoke with one of the Air Force Colonels at the base. He detailed just how intricate a manuver the terrorist had pulled off--implementing four simultaneous missions. All of the missions required each particapant to be disciplined and display various specialised skills, and to have three of
    them work to devastating effect without communicating from plane to plane.

    He said he wasnt sure he could have done as well. The Colonel left me with a chilling though: the terrorist are evil but intelligent--don't underestimate them
    -Rudy
    page 354
    Leadership Rudolph W Giuli

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    During the weeks following the World Trade Center disaster, when "free time" did not exist, I carved out hours to learn more about the issues that had been forced upon the city, to seek out sources of both knowledge and inspiration. When I read, Im a devoted underliner. Shortly after September 11th, Judith [Nathan] got me a copy of Yossef Bodansky's "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War On America". Soon it was covered in highliter and notes. I met with Bodansky to discuss his book and sat down with Henry Kissinger to talk about world terrorism and get his perspective on its history and ramifications."
    -Rudy
    Page 291
    Leadership Rudolph W Giuliani [KBE]

    Another of ads BBDO pitch to me was to feature an older gentleman running the bases at Yankee Stadium. After he slides into home, the cloud of dust reveals Henry Kissinger saying, "Derik Who?" The ad people werent sure Dr Kissinger would go for it, but I was certain he would. Henry's a big baseball fan and even bigger supporter. Mor

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    To our knowledge, none of the [fire] chiefs present believed that a total collapse of either tower was possible. [9/11 Commission Report]

    But right before the south tower collapsed, I noticed a lot of people just left the lobby, and I heard we had a crew of all different people, high-level people in government, everybody was gone, almost like they had information that we didn't have. [Joseph Pfeifer, Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.)]

    “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the police commissioner, the fire commissioner, the head of emergency management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of
    people with us.”
    -Rudolph Giuliani

     Mark Loizeaux, the president of C

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the police commissioner, the fire commissioner, the head of emergency management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of
    people with us.”
    -Rudolph Giuliani 

     ”I thought, Somebody’s got to tell the Fire Department to get out of there,” Loizeaux told me. “I picked up the phone, dialled 411, got the number, and tried it–busy. So I called the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management”–which was in 7 World Trade. “All circuits were busy. I couldn’t get through.”
    -Mark Loizeaux, the president of Controlled Demolition Incorporated, 
    -John Seabrook “WHY THE TOWERS FEL

  • Bobby 4 years ago

    I personally never could stand this duplicitous clown.

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    Peering Two Decades into the Furture”
    “Early in 1996, The Regiopnal Plan Association issued its third plan, officially titled (A Region at Risk). Underwritten by Chase, Chemical,Goldman Sachs,The New York Times Company, Nynex, IBM, and other corporations heavily invested in the region, the third plan following in the footsteps of its 1930s and 1968 predecessors, encompassing the thirty-one counties in and around New York City.”
     
    “The RPA recommended dismantling both the Port Authority and the Metropolitan Transit Authority and reconstituting thier salvageable parts in a comprehensive mega-agency; the tri-state Regional Transpotation Authority. In addition, it advocated building the network of rail links its previous plans had consigned to obsolescence–this at a cost of $25Billion; $1Billion per mile.”
    Page 200
    Divided We Stand
    Eric Darton (1999)

    Paul Isaac Jr (NYsentinel at Large)

  • Chief Apathetic 4 years ago

    What are you concerned about. This old Indian has lived all my life without any Rights. Say something to anyone about anything and all they do is say, shut up you stupid Indian. Police say if you I don't let them search the car they will impound the car.

    Search away as there isn't anything in the car. You don't need any Rights. Yep once living was good in this land. A good place to raise children who would in return have a good life. Then the white man came.

    This is his pay your bills and die world now. So just pay your bills, obey the law, &render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, at Rome crossed the ocean & was started again in this land.

  • Pitchfork 4 years ago

    A new Bumpersticker:

    Once we lived in America,
    Now, bankrupt in Iraq--
    we live in Neocon Kikestan!

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    EPA Ombusdman Robert Martin resigned on Earth Day, and in his resignation letter accused EPA Administrator Christie Whitman of withholding data on toxic levels of pollution and poisons in the air at the World Trade Center for personal gain. 

    According to Martin, Ms. Whitman is the wife of a former CitiGroup officer who now manages about $800 million of CitiGroup's investments. CitiGroup owns Travelers' Insurance, the insurance company of many buildings in the WTC area. He charges that because Ms. Whitman issued a statement that the air was fine, Traveler's saved a lot of money by not having to pay claims. 

    Apparently there are a number of complaints from rescue workers, residents, and cleanup crews of respiratory and other problems. 

    The full article can be found at the Environmental News Service site. The article also contains links to other documents regarding pollution at the WTC site.

    Paul Isaac Jr (NYsentinel at Large)

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    “The Downtown Lower Manhattan Association and Department of City Planning, in their joint 1993 Plan for Lower Manhattan, proposed RADICALLY CULLING THE HERD OF OLDER BUILDINGS. The suggestion of even broader plazas, in place of OBSOLETE SKYSCRAPPERS, put a positive spin on an OFF-THE RECORD OBSERVATION BY THE DLMA spokesman that in order to stabilize property values, SEVERAL DOZEN DOWNTOWN OFFICE BUILDINGS WOULD SIMPLY HAVE TO BE RAZED.”Page 206 Divided We Stand Eric Darton(1999)

    Paul Isaac Jr (NYsentinel at Large)

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    “The Port Authority closed the 1990s with a stream of press releases announcing the rental of unimaginable huges quantities of Trade Center office space to “Cutting Edge” firms like Sun Microsystems. Yet around the complex A MILLION SQAURE FEET STOOD EMPTY, and the building originaly intended as great catalizing chambers of world trade were by degrees, transforming into a kind of DISJUNTIVE REAL ESTATE LAYER-CAKE. One story above the carpeted, wood- paneled offices of a Japanese securities firm, A GROUP OF ARTIST FILLED BARE WALL WITH BOLDLY COLLORED IMAGES AND HUNG SCULPURES FROM THE EXPOSED CEILING GIRDERS OF VAST ECHOING CAVERNS. As part of the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council program that TURN SOME OF THE VACANT SPACE IN THE TOWER OVER TO ARTIST RENT FREE, 40.000 SQUARE FEET OF CONCRETE FLOOR lay painted and strewn with the Raw materials of creative urge that has never been easily reconciled with the imperatives of a bottom line. Under such conditions, one could begin to read in th

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    (Cont)

    Under such conditions, one could begin to read in the Trade Center symptoms of an internal fragmentation quite at odds with the image of a thriving, Class-A lower Manhattan Office Complex.”Pages 191-192 Divided We Stand Eric Darton (1999)

  • DDDA 4 years ago

    'lose' not 'loose', like 'too' vs. 'to' = petpeeveofmine

  • DDDAmerica 4 years ago

    'lose' not 'loose', like 'to' vs. 'too' = petpeeveofmine

  • Brubaker 4 years ago

    The duty of the citizen is to become informed, to address myriad issues in a duplicitous world.

    Perhaps a good place to start one's initiation is to visit the website

    www.bigeye.com

    The site has numerous articles and videos to get you to think, to educate and initiate you on matters quite critical to the Republic (what's left of it). You may not agree with all that is presented but numerous individuals have spent their own time to publish hundreds of thousands of pages of important information and videos to back up much of the discourse.
    Those people care. You should care.

  • itsalloverfolks 4 years ago

    "...the suspects would loose their Miranda rights..." How's that... they will let loose their rights?

    What a pitiful state this society is in when even a professional propagandist can't spell properly. It ruins whatever good information said propagandist might want to convey... what a loser (or is that looser?)

  • Butthead 4 years ago

    When's the last time the Federal, state, or local gov't passed a law, or regulation, etc that actually benefited you as an individual, 50-60 years ago? According to Dr. Richard Day (died 1989) in a speech in Pittsburgh, Pa in 1969, the American middle class were to be targeted for elimination thru legal,economic and financial restrictions that would destroy the ability of the American economy to create wealth. Thus America went from an industrial to service economy,then from a technical to consumer economy. How does one consume without first having real income? And how does a gov't finance its functions when the tax base is seriously reduced? Answer; debt, mega-tons of it. So each of us( American citizens) has been handed a bill from the Federal Gov't, for a half-million dollars with more add-ons and no way of ever paying the bill. Welcome to the NWO slave system, where old slaves will be given the New Healthcare benefits, and useless eaters will not exist.

  • WillieG51 4 years ago

    The very implications of this bill frighten me, as it should frighten every law-abiding person. No matter how good a person you are if you say or think the wrong thing. . You'll disappear, right out of the Soviet Gulags. I think this is of far more concern than lose, or loose.

  • DorkNozzle 4 years ago

    Great content. However, little attention was paid to typographical errors. Need a proof reader? I am available...
    D

  • DDearborn 4 years ago

    hmmm

    Lots of idiotic comments about spelling. This type of comment is the internet equivelent of shooting the messenger. Usually this tack is taken in a pathetic attempt to deflect attention away from the main issue(s) raised in the article.
    The main issue in this case is simple Lieberman and Scott are TRAITORS AND LIARS!. They both swore an oath to uphold the Constitition not destroy it. This bill is flat out illegal. Like the Patriot Act and so many other "anti-terror" laws. Which in reality are designed to take away the rights (hence power) of the average citizen. The war on terror is really a war on you and me! But by all means lets worry about the spelling, forget the traitors.

  • DDearborn 4 years ago

    Hmmm
    Follow up. Bye the way the statement by Liebermen that "they" are "criminals" is an act of terrorism itself. Why? because without due process there can be no legitimate definitive method of determining who is guilty and who is innocent. That is why all free democratic societies have a presumption of innocence. The power Lieberman and Obama want (Bush used before them) is to just arrest and take away anyone they feel is a ....pick one threat, terrorist, criminal etc. ..or maybe just a political or business enemy is is getting in the way. Look around the world, every 2 bit dictatorship in the world has bestowed the same powers on its "leaders". Without the presumption of innocence and due process there is zero chance that the system will not be abused. I mean honestly are any of you willing to trust such an abitrary system without safe guards with your children? If the anser is yes don't come crying when one of your politically incorrect children disappears without a trace

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    "According to Enoch, It would seem that the rebel watchers took mortals into their beds, and their mistresses gave birth to "giants" who were virtually ungovernable. They began to "devour" human beings and develped a tast for blood."

    "The offspring of the watchers became violent and war-like"

    Page 189
    The Atlantis BluePrint 

  • RollingOver 4 years ago

    Hmmm, will this apply to the CIA?

  • Ron 4 years ago

    What THEY did in the Soviet Union they also plan to do in the US of A. Approx. 40 MILLION Russians died during the communist purges and undoubtedly millions of patriotic Americans are going to die because they are "Domestic Terrorists". I knew that Americans were in DEEP trouble when the term "Domestic Terrorist" came into being some time ago. Better fight this lunatics while you can, Americans. Time is running out...

  • Mihail 4 years ago

    The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism.Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism,so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism.
    A Program for the Jews and Humanity,Rabbi Harry Waton,p. 143-144).

    Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism.
    The American Bulletin,Rabbi S.Wise,May 5,1935).

    The Communists are against religion(Christianity),and they seek to destroy religion;yet,when we look deeper into the nature of Communism,we see that it is essential nothing else than a religion(Judaism).
    (A Program for the Jews and Humanity,Rabbi Harry Waton,p.138)

    The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands.This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people.
    Le Peuple Juif,February 8,1919

    We have exterminated the property owners in Russia.We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America.
    (The Jew,December 1925,Zinobit

  • Sher 4 years ago

    EXCELLENT. Thanks for bringing this hideous attempt to further make the US a total police state out into the open.

  • Al 4 years ago

    I think we should create a law that puts all these criminals(i.e, senators, congressman) who are traitors. They are using the "war on terror" which is war on a word. How many American have died because of terrorism? Not enough to mention, the only terrors we've seen have been fabricated (false flags) by the government. Whose intent is to maximize the use of "Terror" to take our rights away. I am ready to rise against such a threat.

  • Zyklon-B 4 years ago

    Hey I love Jews as much as everyone else, but this is basically targetted at Muslims (ie, racist). what about the Israel Mossad terrorists that commit false flag operations in he US? This should be an equal opportunity Fascism bill.

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    IDF VETS TRAIN NEW YORK CITY JEWISH PARAMILITARIES, "KITAT KONENUT"
    IDF vets train NY Jewish paramilitaries
    Jul. 25, 2008 Haviv Rettig , THE JERUSALEM POST Yonatan Stern, the "Sgan Mefaked Hakita" (deputy squad commander) of Kitat Konenut New York, insists his "paramilitary emergency armed response team" is no "group of vigilantes or a JDL [Jewish Defense League]."

    "The goal of the organization is to have a competent and professional group of armed volunteers ready to respond to a threat at a moment's notice in any area where Jews reside," explains the Israeli combat veteran. ("field trip" photo Monticello, NY Catskill Mountains)

    "We do not carry out demonstrations or political activity of any kind as we have no political agenda. Our agenda is to protect Jews wherever and whenever necessary and by any means needed."

    Paul Isaac Jr (NYsentinel at Large)

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    On Friday, the third session of the group's training camp will begin in the Catskills woodlands of upstate New York, on land belonging to a Jewish supporter of the organization. With tuition at $400, the group expects 15 participants and five instructors for the 10 days of training. Participation has doubled since the group began three years ago.

    Kitat Konenut New York is modeled on the rapid response teams in the West Bank settlements that are often the first to act when terrorist attacks or other emergencies take place. The group bills itself as religious-Zionist but nonpolitical. American Jews have "felt a false sense of security in the United States," Stern believes, "because historically there has been less anti-Semitism than in other countries. But there have been incidents - neo-Nazi terrorist attacks, Arab terrorist attacks. Jews have to be vigilant."

    "The threat is not from the American people or government," he adds, but from "terrorist sleeper cells that want to target

  • Paul Isaac Jr 4 years ago

    Host:Kitat Konenut New York
    Type: Trips - "Camping Trip"
    Time and Place
    Start Time: Friday, July 25, 2008 at 12:00pm
    End Time: Sunday, August 3, 2008 at 9:00pm
    City/Town: Monticello, NY (Catskill Mountains)
    Contact Info
    Phone: 646-417-2736
    Email:

    "We believe all Jews in the US must be legally armed and trained," Stern says, "and towards this goal we hold paramilitary training camps to train and equip Jewish American youth." The group's literature notes emphatically that all firearms used in training "are 100% legal and in compliance with all federal, state and local laws."

    "We strongly believe in the constitutional right to bear arms and we express this right to its fullest," it adds. The group claims to be "well-connected with the New York police and fire departments" and it invites "all members of the law enforcement community to join in our life-saving activities."

    Paul Isaac Jr (NYsentinel at Large)

  • Merek 4 years ago

    Need a loyality oath for dual citizens,Presently many American
    politicians, Jews and Muslims are putting their tribal interests above the interests of the United States. We have been milked by both. the latest
    Times Square bomber as an American Citizen should be charged with Treason and meet a firing squad ,so too should any Zionist
    dual loyals found Spying for Israel in the US, Remember the large
    group of Mossad moving and storage boys filming and cheering the fall of the towers, they were set up to film before the attack.
    America cannot afford to bank roll Afganistan or Iraq, Palistine or Israel any longer!While we look to Mars and recovering from bankster criminal disloyality, Israel looks to World War III over Iran and a few water holes and strategic hilltops, No freedom here until we nationalize the Federal Reserve or audit it completely.Huge moves being conducted in secret See: Benjamin Fulford.com , He states a million Khaszara satanists are planning on fleeing the US.

  • Lynn 4 years ago

    You said: American Patriots who are helping out the Afrikaner Resistance Movement? Well the Afrikaner Resistance movement consist of a group of racist, white supremacist neo-fascist thugs. Where did that come from? Stick to the topic. Joe Lieberman has a hidden agenda and it is pretty obvious now.

  • Wilbur 4 years ago

    What "culture" would give birth to such a concept?
    Certainly not one of Western European Democratic heritage.

  • Barney 4 years ago

    Boy, doesn't Lieberman have the kind of doughboy face that you could just punch until your arm fell off?

  • George LoBuono 4 years ago

    Lieberman is an aberration, a complete, groveling shill for an Israeli mafia. Liberman's ties to Conn. organized crime money are notorious. The man is a disgrace.

  • Ted Chmura 4 years ago

    Sadly Our Poor President is surrounded by a Cluster F
    of dual Loyalists , Summer ,Paulson ,Axelrod, Rob Emmanuel ,Geitner, the Fed Chief and now comes Kagin
    She would insure that Leibermans style madness would clamp down on system reformers . As for Kagin, I'm not afraid of her possible socialism but deathly afraid that her Zionism will help doom us to one sided political correctness and another war for Zionist expansion or continued Madoff style Illuminati fiat/derivative/morgage banksterism! The Supreme Court has already sold us out to the corporations...
    Who is directly responsible for the massive Ft. Knox gold heist and the dumping of the tungsten gold coated bars all over the globe? "WE MUST TOTALLY AUDIT THE FED" Reserve
    as they are responsible for the looting and they are foreign cartels of invisible familial connections most are Zionist and America's loyal Jews must speak out as these
    banksters are economic terrorists who would destroy us, Jew Arab and American .

  • Rachel 4 years ago

    Uhhhh, first we mention United States citizenship and then somehow tie in American citizenship. Which one is in danger? Certainly we all know that these are two separate and distinct forms of citizenship. So which one are they really going after?

  • Amerikagulag 4 years ago

    Senator Joe Lieberman (D-TelAviv)'s bill exempts those who serve in the Israeli military

  • William Dumas 4 years ago

    West bank and aza right here in the good ole USI.

  • Eric 4 years ago

    Does that include economic terrorist such as yourself Mr liberman?

  • m 4 years ago

    Our politicians should be tried for treason.

  • Ld Elon 4 years ago

    A real teraist is one whom looks after their mother, and, to mainain her, a teraformer.
    So those against the so called teraist, do you not like earth, then please leave.

  • Ld Elon 4 years ago

    maintain, typo

  • Walt 4 years ago

    I can certainly object to the bill proposed by Lieberman and Brown on several points; however, the misuse of the word fascist is as troubling. Fascist has been much over-used today to denigrate current Administration policies and current Congressional actions by the far right. It is one of a collection of words misused and grouped together oxymoronically to provide a pejorative epithet to project a feeling more than a fact. Nothing is going to happen to this bill other than being introduced. Lieberman and Brown simply demonstrate the need for the voters to remove them from office at the earliest opportunity.

  • Ignacio 4 years ago

    American governments are terrorists.

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