Ex-KGB agent interview on demoralizing America reemerges

Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov or as he was known in the spy trade as Tomas David Schuman, was a former KGB informant from the Soviet Union did an interview in 1984 on demoralizing America and today, the Tea Party Command Center found the interview and posted it on their website.

The interview he gave to host, G. Edward Griffin, was on the demoralization in America and about using as he said, “useful idiots” for the KGB to obtain their goals of bringing down America, not by force, but by bringing American society down by demonizing morals, values, and principles that America was founded on.

Bezmenov said, “The main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion and opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only 15 percent of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such.”

“The other 85 percent is a slow process, which we call either ideological subversion, active measures…or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions…in the interests of defending themselves, their families, the communities, and their country.”

Bezmenov said that there are four basic stages:

  • Demoralization (15 to 20 years)
  • Destabilization (2 to 5 years)
  • Crisis (6 months)
  • Normalization; where the mass is essentially a slave to government

Bezmenov continued, “It’s a great brain-washing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation.”

“Why that many years?...because this is the minimal number of years that is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy, exposed to the ideology of the enemy.”
“In other words, Marxism, Leninism ideology, is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students. Without being challenged or counter-balanced by the basic values of Americanism,” Bezmenov said.

“You cannot change their minds, even if you expose them to authentic information, even if you prove white is white and black is black, you still cannot change their basic perception and the logical behavior,” said Bezmenov.

“The demoralization of America is completed already.”

In April 2012, a news report was released about covert KGB operations that had been going on for decades. The KGB operation began the creation of the culture, that we see today, of political correctness that includes the use of racism tactics, liberalism, immoral and unethical acceptances, anti-capitalism, anti-Christian, and hate talk from the liberal progressives, namely, the core of the Democratic Party.

The KGB operations began in the 1920s with Soviet mole, Alexander Gumberg who was able to affect various facets of American life and culture by influencing American media, academia, and Hollywood. The seeds were cultivated underground into the 1950s, bloomed in the late 1960s and spread like wildflowers in the 1980s when political correctness began to dominate academia and education.

At the end of the interview, Bezmenov said with a warning, "I have not defected to tell such stories of idiocies...you don't need espionage anymore. I've come to talk about survival, it's a question of survival of this [American] system."

"There is no other place to defect to."

Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov passed away in 1993 at age 54.

The short version of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov’s interview is here and a more in-depth interview can be seen here.

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