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Eddie Long scandal update: Civil rights activist blasts black homophobia

Bishop Eddie Long scandal update:  Civil rights activist blasts black homophobia

Longtime civil rights activist, active church member, and KGO radio talk show host Ray Taliaferro is speaking out on the case of Bishop Eddie Long.  

On his popular talk show on Monday, Taliaferro, who is African American, blasted those in the African-American community who are antigay.

"It is inhumane to do what black people do when they approach the issue of homosexuality," Taliaferro said.

"Why is it that black people, my people, feel they got to get up in the pulpit and they have to to condemn a very active segment of the population of our society who happen to be gay, who happen to be homosexual?"

Taliaferro is a former San Francisco NAACP president and has been a choir director for years at several churches in San Francisco. 

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Addressing the Eddie Long case directly, Taliaferro said, "That is just typical. You will have a black man and he will put on a robe and he'll address a large congregation and man he'll rail against being gay and he'll rail agaist the sin of homosexuality and he'll rail against all that stuff and he can't wait until what God made him comes into play and as soon as the sermon is over, he goes into the choir room and grabs one of the choir boys and they go off and have a wonderful time. When, oh when, are people in the black community going to stop preaching that crap. It is crap. It is inhumane to put down wonderful people because of their homosexuality."

Taliaferro said that in the 40 years of broadcasting, it was the first time he has addressed homobphobia in the church directly, but he said he felt it was necessary to speak out.

Taliaferro told listeners, "When will my community wake up? My community, the black community, wake up and do what is right?"

Taliaferro noted the African-American community's opposition to gay marriage when California's Proposition 8 went to a vote in 2008.

"The only thing about Eddie Long is that in front of thousands of people in Georgia every week he preaches against being gay and he can't wait until his long sermon is cut short and he is able to run out with the choir boy," the talk show host said.

Taliaferro commented on Long's statements on Sunday in which he said he planned to fight charges that he coerced sex from teenage boys. The KGO host noted that Bishop Long never denied the charges.

Long is one of the most powerful preachers in the country. He once called homosexuality a "spiritual abortion." He once led a demonstration march against gay marriage.

Four men have come forward to say that Long coerced them into sex when they were teenagers. 

All four have filed lawsuits against Long. They say the bishop recruited them into his youth ministry and then forced them into sex.

According to ABC News, Bishop Long would fly the boys around in his private jet and request that they be nude in his presence and would request "sexual massages" and "oral sodomy."

The four plaintiffs are Jamal Parris, Maurice Robinson, Anthony Flagg and Spencer LeGrange. They believe more victims will come forward. They were 17 and 18 years old during the alleged abuse.

They call Long a "sexual predator." ABC News has obtained photos that support the young men’s claims. One shows Long posing in a muscle shirt in a bathroom stall. 

A lawyer for two of the men, B.J. Bernstein, told ABC, "What pastor in his right mind sends a picture from himself, posing in his bathroom in a muscle shirt? None that I know of. Especially one who is a committed homophobe."

One of the plaintiffs, LeGrange, says that when he was 17, Long gave him a sleeping pill during a trip to Kenya and then engaged in sex acts with him.

Click here to read a full transcript of Bishop Eddie Long's sermon in which he addresses the scandal. The transcript is courtesy the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

, SF Headlines Examiner

Ed Walsh has worked as a journalist in the San Francisco Bay Area since 1985. He's worked in television, radio, print, and the Internet. His e-mail address is edwalsh94105@yahoo.com

Comments

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    I believe the young men. This pastor is full of himself. To degrade other and then do exactly what he calls a spiritual abortion. Guess it doesnt matter who he gets his groove on behind the Congregations back. God Help him is all I have to say.

  • Let's Pray for all involved!! 1 year ago

    Let's just Prya for all involved!! "God Specializes"

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    lets stop giving our personal opinions and stick to the word of God. This world has become so corrupt because we want things our way and no one wants to abey God and no wonder we cant do anything with our own children when we are so dissobediant ourselvers. I'm not here to judge because at the end of the day it doesn't matter who support gays and who doesn't because we all have to answer to the same person. May God Help Us All.

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    lets stop giving our personal opinions and stick to the word of God. This world has become so corrupt because we want things our way and no one wants to abey God and no wonder we cant do anything with our own children when we are so dissobediant ourselvers. I'm not here to judge because at the end of the day it doesn't matter who support gays and who doesn't because we all have to answer to the same person. May God Help Us All.

  • Vernon Handley 1 year ago

    My comment is why is this.just coming out. Why didn't these young men say anything when this was allegatly going on. We know right from wrong when we are 17 and 18.

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    unless you've been sexually abused by older people you trust, then you will never understand. It happened to me & they all use the same tactics (money, gifts,etc.) I didn't tell until I was in my 20's & It was brushed under the rug like it never happened.

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    blame the victim DUMBASS

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    Years ago when Eddie long had his church on snapfinger I believe that's the name of the street, I was passing by and he and 2 young boys were outside near the fence and I'm not sure what was going on between him and the boys but it just didn't look right!!!!!

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    if it didn't look right why didn't you report it? it's up to us to hold things we think are wrong into account. We must hold our leaders and everyone else into account for their actions.

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    First of all the bible says man and woman should be together not man and man or woman and woman it is a abomination to God, however so is being drunk,fornication,lying,cheating,killing etc. So when it come to being gay I agree who are we to judge. He who has not sin cast the first stone. But it is still not right and everybody does not have to accept that it is. Should they discriminate no we are all sinners. But it is a sin, according to the bible. Bishop Long is innocence until proven guilty. I always know that there are two sides to every story and then there is the truth. I just pray the truth is revealed and justice (because God is a just God) is served!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    ROMANS 1:27-28!! Im so glad somebody finally said it !

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    THANK YOU!!!!! ENOUGH SAID!!!

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    Pick and choose...black people should still be slaves

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    Why is it that because you say something is wrong it means you are discriminating.?.. The bible is the truth; Like it or not. And Christians should not be afraid to say it. I pray Bishop Long is proven innocent but I know who knows for sure and that is God. He is the judge of course however that does not mean that Christians cannot speak the truth in love. Its wrong to say homosexuality is wrong? I don't think so. And if you are a Christian and you disagree with the bible you have to ask yourself which God are you serving. The God that died for your sins or your own flesh?

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    why do so many people strongly believe in what the bible says and take it literally? yet they pick & choose whats parts to obey. remember, the bible was written by MAN and has been translated too many times to count. WHO KNOWS WHAT THE TRUTH IS!

  • Shac Coop 1 year ago

    Those who are Christians should not only wake up to the fact that there are many wolves in sheeps clothing such as Long, but they should also be taking notes of all of the anti-Christian sleeper cell who are coming out in the wake of these allegations, particularly, the gay community.

    The Bible is the constitution for Christians, and it is what really seems to be on the defense. Many are chanelling there anger towards Long; but, whether he followed the guidelines which he taught to be necessary in order to live a Christian life doesn't change the fact that the Bible strongly condemns homosexuality.

    There are those who will say that these "homophobes" should be true to theirselves and be more inclusive; however, if being more inclusive means diregarding guidelines laid out in the Bible, then they will become more true to the demands of men than God, that is if you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God.

    I saw Haggard defending the gospel against a gay "preacher of the gospel." The man who Haggard debated, in one breathe, he claimed to be a preacher of the gospel, and in the same declared the scripture to be an "oppressive" outdated text. Well, I guess the Bible can be oppressive to those who do not seek to comply to it's standards.

    The media and politically correct has pretty much defined American Christianity, and not the Bible. Therefore, it shouldn't be called Christianity anymore, at least not without a hiphen. There are those who do not like or agree with much of what the Bible demands out from their lives, so they attack those who seek to preserve and teach it as it was written. If someone attacks you for what you stand for, they are attacking what you stand for.

    Christianity can not be reinvented by popular demand or the inspired politically correct. If you don't agree with the guidelines that are in the Bible, then you might want to find a different religion. Christianity is not a democracy. It's leader is a King/Lord, and he doesn't take polls.

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    This is is an idiot on this report - It is not about what black people or any people - the homosexual and this preacher are wrong for same sex relationship. It is a sin, it is not crap to say it is a sin, and that all who are homosexual have refused The Lord God, and have accepted Satan has their Lord and Saviour. Keep on thinking it is okay, must I remind you that God destroyed the world once by water for the iniquities of Mankind and America and the world is quickly approaching their end. Get it right but don't fight God's word even it the one who is preaching it is wrong. You all need to go to church for the word and study to show thyself approve unto God.

  • nerak 1 year ago

    I concur!

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    Amen, Amen, Amen! There is nothing to debate. God created the Woman for a Man. He didn't create a man for a man or a woman for a woman. The Word of God does not not change and never will. People need to stop. The Bible is not a generational piece. It is not suppose to change with time or happenings!

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    Do you CHOOSE to be heterosexual? by saying homosexuality is a sin, you're saying people CHOOSE to be that way. they can no more choose to be homosexual than you can choose to be heterosexual. you are what you are and God made us that way! Some Christians need to get over themselves

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    "Christianity cannot be reinvented by popular demand or the inspired politically correct"....That's part of the problem; Christianity has been and continues to be "reinvented" by "Christians". "If you don't agree with the guidelines that are in the bible, then you might want to find a different religion." No. Totally unnecessary. If someone doesn't agree with your interpretation all they need to do is find a different Christian sect that's more in line with their interpretations. Why leave the faith?

    Why are there 38,000 plus denominations within Christianity? How many denominations are there in the African American Christian community? What is an African American Christian but a "reinvented" Christian? Our ancestors were not Christians when they were rudely uprooted from their native soil and enslaved in the Americas. We were converted into Christians...REINVENTED with the help of European Christians and newly converted African American Christians...what a cocktail!

    As an agnostic I have many questions but I also recognize the limitations of my mammalian equipment to state that I "know" the mind of any God or Gods. Eddie Long is innocent until proven guilty unless he admits that the allegations are true.

    BTW, there are no original autographs of the Judeo-Christian Bible, all we have are copies of copies of copies. Without the originals how does anyone profess to "know" what was originally written? And please don't envoke faith because if you had the autographs they would be used as evidence...in which case you wouldn't need faith.

    Peace, respect and critical thinking,
    The African American Agnostic

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    I believe the young men to, what man at that age wants to say to anyone, that another man had sex with them after being tricked by someone we should trust,CHURCH dont pray for eddie long thats all in gods hands now, get up off the floor,stop dancing, an shouting around ,an pray for other young men that this has happen to that will never come out an say anything,,young men who love god but dont know how to trust again..because if you dont want to believe it or not its happening everywhere...wake up church

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    you are so right there is a bigger picture that god has showed us , some are to blind to see it

  • tomananda 1 year ago

    Based on Long's carefully parsed "I am not perfect, but I am not the man I am portrayed to be" statement to the congregation, it appears likely that the charges of abuse and inappropriate coercion are true. Gays are not abusers, but preachers like Eddie Long who have suppressed homosexual desires and act on
    those desires in secret are abusers. The problem is homophobia in black and non-black churches alike. It is inhumane to vilify gays and lesbians who are born as homosexuals and represent the diversity of God's creation.

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    There is not an ounce of proof gays were born that way. SO stop that lie. Black pople are not afraid of homosexuality we are discusted by it and know in the eyes of God (Jesus) it is wrong and the bible is very clear about it. Bishop Long quotes the bible he does not make the scriptures up. They bible is true and all homosexual,fornicators, and those that commit adultery are sinners. Black people have survied slavery, Jim Crow, burnings,lynching and all the rest because of God(Jesus). AND THAT IS WHY WE HOLD ON DEARLY TO THE SCRIPTURES, BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT KEPT US!!

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    " gays and lesbians [who] are born as homosexuals and represent the diversity of God's creation"

    Can you show me this in the Bible? What chapter and verse, I'd like to study it ...

  • candie 1 year ago

    Frist of all we should be very careful about putting are mouth on the man God has called right or wrong num 12:1-10 says; Miriam and Aarron spake against Moses. Here is where we are in the world now. 2 Tim 3:1-9 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, the word of God says that we are to be quick to hear and slow to speak. I don' know who this radio talk person is, but I do know who's side he is not on however everybody has an opinion of what they think the truth is even though they weren't their. Let me leave eveyone with this Matt 7:1-5 For with what judgment ye judge ye shall be judged read the word of God for the real truth.

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    you need to learn to spell

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    “Touch Not My Anointed”..The command of God or the cries of the misled??
    by GaryV @ 12:19 am. Filed under The Truth Shall Set you Free!
    Those who feel the call to be watchmen on the wall during this time of apostasy have heard this phrase repeated ad nauseum, by those who seek to defend their favorite “ministers” against the claims of Scripture. In fact, along with “Judge Not”, it’s probably among the most frequently used (though commonly misunderstood) texts in the entire Bible. Have any of them ever actually read the verse in question??

    Ps 105:11-15 ?To you I will give the land of Canaan as the allotment of your inheritance,? When they were few in number, indeed very few and strangers in it. When they went from one nation to another, from one kingdom to another people, He permitted no one to do them wrong; yes, He rebuked kings for their sakes, Saying, ?Do not touch My anointed ones, and do My prophets no harm.?

    Now………who are the “Anointed” here??? Kings specifically (1Sam. 12:3,5; 24:6,10; 26:9,11, 16,23; 2 Sam. 1:14,16; 19:21; Psalm 20:6; Lam. 4:20). Who are the prophets?? Those who spoke directly for God, inspired for infallible and inerrant utterances by the Holy Spirit, and through whom came Scripture. We don’t HAVE infallible, Scripture writing prophets anymore, nor do we have leaders who are anointed above the Body of Christ like the OT kings.

    Context is the key to understanding Scripture, but the misguided have been taught to tear verses such as this out of their context by the very people who use this tactic to exploit them. This very method of twisting Scripture serves both to enrich the pulpit pimps AND keep the flock from discovering their error.

    Context is where you put verses within their literary and historical settings so folks don’t go off making foolish and unBiblical assumptions about Biblical texts, wresting them to their own destruction.

    What is God talking about in the verse in question?? He is speaking of protecting His people from physical harm by their enemies. PHYSICAL HARM. You cannot tear words out of their context and make them say whatever you want them to say.

    “Harm” here does NOT mean saying something TRUE about someone, whether in leadership or not. David refused to TOUCH GOD’S ANOINTED in Saul too……..but he SURE AS HECK told the truth about Saul and it wasn’t pretty. Touching God’s anointed here AGAIN means to do PHYSICAL HARM.

    1Sa 26:8 Then said Abishai to David, God hath delivered thine enemy (Speaking of SAUL, God’s Anointed) into thine hand this day: now therefore let me smite him (PHYSICAL HARM), I pray thee, with the spear even to the earth at once, and I will not [smite] him the second time. 1Sa 26:9 And David said to Abishai, Destroy (KILL……PHYSICAL HARM) him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD’S anointed, and be guiltless? 1Sa 26:10 David said furthermore, [As] the LORD liveth, the LORD shall smite him; or his day shall come to die; or he shall descend into battle, and perish.
    1Sa 26:11 The LORD forbid that I should stretch forth mine hand (Again, physical harm) against the LORD’S anointed: but, I pray thee, take thou now the spear that [is] at his bolster, and the cruse of water, and let us go.

    So, we see that to touch or harm God’s anointed is to do them PHYSICAL harm. Why do so many want to twist it into something else?? Because it shields and enriches them.

    Just to make it perfectly clear that “touching” and “harm” do not refer to saying something true about leaders, read what David (who did NOT touch God’s anointed) said about God’s anointed, Saul. It ain’t nice. David says to Saul that he is unjust for pursuing David, that he is seeking to murder David for no reason, and that God Himself will smite Saul.

    Now,if I were to say that Benny Hinn is a liar, that is a documented fact. Did I “touch” God’s anointed?? Not according to the Bible. I did nothing more than what David did………tell the truth about a leader, which is precisely what Paul TOLD us to do as well. He put Hymenaeus and Alexander (1 Timothy 1:20) on blast along with the leaders of Crete (Titus 1:12),and John did the same with Diotrephes (3 Jn 1:9-11) . He told us in Timothy to rebuke sinning leaders PUBLICLY so that others would fear to follow in their sinful ways, and this responsibility extends beyond leadership to the laity as Paul makes clear in Romans:

    Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren (the church), mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

    If telling the truth about a leader is “touching” God’s anointed, what was Paul doing in Gal 2:12-14 calling Peter a hypocrite publicly?? Wasn’t Peter anointed?? If “touching” means saying the truth about a leader (rather than physical harm), then Paul stands condemned before that doctrine.

    If that is “touching”God’s anointed (leadership), why did Paul do it?? Why did he command US to do it?? Why did Isaiah and Jeremiah and Elijah and many others do it?? Why did Nathan do it to the anointed David??

    David himself, who was God’s anointed, received the BLISTERING rebuke of Nathan for his affair with Bathsheba and his murder of Uriah the Hittite her husband. If it is “touching God’s anointed” to speak the truth about them, why didn’t David say so and rebuke Nathan?? Or better yet, why did God reveal this to Nathan AT ALL?? Or rebuke Nathan from heaven for “Touching” the anointed David??

    We should look closely at the case of David actually, because the argument is often put forward that when Nathan confronted David with his sin, David remained in his office. Therefore the erroneous correlation is made that since David remained in HIS office, so the pastor who no longer qualifies under the requirements of 1 Tim 3 should ALSO remain in his office despite what the NT clearly teaches. There are a couple of serious problems with that theory.

    1) David was a king……..a POLITICAL leader, NOT a religious leader (which was limited to the Levites, not the tribe of Judah from which David arose).

    2) David was not only NOT a minister, he was not even in the New Testament church. To attempt to wrest the requirements for a political office in the Old Covenant out of their context, in an attempt to ignore the ministerial requirements in the New Covenant, is the very worst form of Biblical hermeneutics. To twist the Word of God like that simply to protect a preacher is nothing short of idolatry.

    “Touch not my anointed” NEVER in the ENTIRE Bible EVER means ANYTHING except PHYSICAL harm. As for speaking truth to leaders, we are commanded by Biblical teaching and Biblical example to call out publicly those in leadership who are in sin and harming the cause of Christ.

    Now, since many desire to drag”Touch not…” kicking and screaming into the New Testament, and shove it into meaning that the “anointed” are ministers, let’s see who the New Testament actually claims are the “anointed”. (PSSSSSST………they are NOT the leaders but the church. It’s EVERY saint.)

    This is NOT the Old Testament where SOME of God’s people are anointed by the Holy Spirit, and others are not. The anointing is God’s provision through the Holy Spirit Who indwells EVERY believer. God’s anointing IS the Person of the Holy Spirit.

    2Cr 1:21 Now he which establisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed US (ALL SAINTS), [is] God;

    1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye (ALL THE SAINTS) have received of him abideth in you (ALL THE SAINTS), and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you (ALL THE SAINTS) of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you (ALL THE SAINTS), ye shall abide in him.

    1Th 4:8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto US (all believers) his holy Spirit.

    Eph 1:13 In whom ye (ALL saints) also [trusted], after that ye (ALL saints) heard the word of truth, the gospel of your (ALL saints) salvation: in whom also after that ye (ALL saints) believed, ye (ALL saints) were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

    Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye (ALL saints) are sealed unto the day of redemption.

    There is not one single text in the New Testament that limits the anointing to leaders as it was in the Old Testament. Christ makes EVERY believer a priest and king, NOT a chosen few (Rev 1:6-7, Rev 5:10). Giftings are specific, but the anointing which GIVES the gifts is NOT restricted to specific believers. EVERY believer is gifted in some manner, and all giftings are the result of the anointing of the Holy Spirit Who indwells ALL of us. The ANOINTED today are NOT the leaders, but the ENTIRE Body of Christ.

    In addition, the leaders are NEVER cut MORE slack than the laity. To the contrary, they are held to a much more stringent standard of behavior (1 Tim 3, Titus 1). So this predilection for letting pastors/ministers off the hook for their false teachings and unGodly lifestyle with “Touch not….” is directly contrary to the Word of God. After all, is anyone precluded from being a Christian because his household is a mess, or because they aren’t blameless, or because they are a novice, or because they don’t have a good report among the heathen?? Of course not. But ANY of those issues preclude a man from being a pastor. The standard is HIGHER, not LOWER.

    The proposition that we are to excuse leadership and hold them to a lower standard, or that we are not to confront leaders with Truth who have trampled underfoot the Word of God and the flock entrusted to them, are concepts not found in Scripture. Quite the opposite.

    SO……….let’s put this misuse and twisting of “Touch not my anointed” to bed. It’s far better to remain silent about a Scripture than misuse it to excuse what God condemns

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    No one is putting their 'mouth on the man of God.' Pasotrs are to be above reproach and to have a good testimony before unbelievers. Mr. Long has not upheld his responsibilities. He MUST step down to honor God.

    *MATTHEW 7:1-5:

    "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye."

    Clearly, it is hypocritical judgment that this Scripture condemns. (Look at verse 6, and 13-15 to see that Christ actually instructs them to make judgments!) A hypocritical judgment is judging something for something of which you are also guilty - LIKE TELLING ME NOT TO JUDGE WHEN YOU ARE JUDGING ME! This passage means the opposite of what hypocrites often interpret it to mean! Jesus' point is for hypocrites to pluck the beam of sin out of their own eye so that they can see clearly to cast the mote out of their neighbor's eye.

    Let's look at some other Scriptures...

    JOHN 7:14: "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

    LUKE 12:57: "Yea, and why not even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?"

    PSALM 37:30: "The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment."

    PROVERBS 31:9: "Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy."

    LUKE 17:3: "Take heed... If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him."

    LEVITICUS 19:15-17: "Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor. Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbor: I am the Lord. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbor, and not suffer sin upon him."

    * From 'rightremedy.org'

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    Gays coming out with their comments need to shut up. In the eyes of GOD they are sinners and their sin represents death to the human race. They helped bring AIDS to the US in the 1970's so they are not angels now. They are also sexual predators messing with boys and girls and cannot judge anyone. Gay marriage and gay adoption should be banned becuase gays have many sexual partners and do leud and troubling acts. Many have been sexually abused as a child or were abonded by their fathers. They have many problems and need Jesus and a therapist. The Church is still correct to preach against ALL SINS including homosexuality.

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    you are truly delusional!

  • BryneenGary 1 year ago

    I agree with this guy because... If a person is taught they can't be who they are, a long list of issues may surface. Church is a place that people go to, for their very own reasons but just because you Love your pastor don't mean you should get close to him, go to his house etc. I mean, if the parents were looking after they're sons then this wouldnt be a issue. Also, i think we need to stop forcing our beliefs onto others because all it does is separate us. Just like my grandma always preaching that Jesus sh8t to me and i don't even talk to her because of it. Bless

  • Robert Hagedorn 1 year ago

    Anal sodomy? For a really big surprise google The First Scandal Adam and Eve. Then click until you get the surprise which will be...too much work?

  • Marcus Griffin 1 year ago

    I don't think the issue with Bishop Eddie Long is Homophobia, a gay issue, or anything in that realm. He’s a married man. Sex outside of marriage is a sin. My issue is that once a person gets saved, they represent Christ, not themselves anymore and just like everyone else, he is not a perfect man.
    Bishop Long stood in his pulpit and preached against the acts he is accused of. He has built a ministry of 25000 followers in Atlanta. He has reached thousands, and yet he is a man who as long as he is submitted to the word of God, can continue to be effective in his ministry. If he has chosen to not deal with his private struggles, just like every other man, and has not completely trusted that he can overcome all temptation, then if he’s not careful, he can fall just like so many others before him.
    David saw Bathsheba, fine women, had to be to get his attention, and he went after her. Got her pregnant, and had her husband killed, to hide his sin. He thought he got away, yet we read about all the turmoil in his house and the loss all because of how he handled his initial sin.
    No man, not even a “man after God’s own heart” is above the Word of God.
    I don't know whether what Bishop Long is accused of doing is true or not, but if it is, then it’s his 25,000+ followers who I feel for. If this goes south, then literally thousands will fall away, hurt, disillusioned, you name it.
    As followers, we know we should be following Christ, but unfortunately, times like these expose who we are really following, our pastor, our Bishop, or God, testing the very essence of our faith.
    Ultimately, it is Bishop Long’s responsibility to count the cost of his own actions. Consider his wife, his commitment to her, her dignity, his children, and the many souls that he's supposed to be feeding. I pray again, that it’s not true, but if it is, it won’t be first powerful man of God falling and impacting the lives of so many believers who really don’t care so much about the fall, but about how the leader handles his fall.

  • Anonymous 1 year ago

    I have been looking at this from another perspective. I cant help but to acknowledge the rigourous progression of sexual immorality (homosexuality) across the nation...and the hidden agenda to demoralize laws and hide behind discrimination...to the point where laws are being changed to change the meaning of Marriage, elementary school curriculum (Pre-K) is being changed (california) to expose innocent children who are not yet capable to reason or decifer between right or wrong to this lifestyle....pictures of boys wearing dresses and stories of children with two moms. I wonder if they'll know when to recognize when a same sex friend violates their body or space just as if it were the opposite? homosexuality, sexual perversion, molestation has been an issue in the family, church, kidnappings etc. but not at this magnitude in history. I believe this is a direct attack against the church. Read the bible..look at the signs of the times...hear what the Lord is saying to the church..He has preserved his children (the church) since the beginning of time through generations... flood, famine, fire, etc. What ever happens in this situation....dont turn your back on God. I encourage all children of God who have relied on the minister to spoon feed you to repent. God saying something?! Choose this day who you will serve! God will not share his throne with no man. No flesh will tarry in his sight. Its always been our choice. God (life) or Satan (lust of the flesh and the world)? To the New Birth Congregation. Be encouraged.

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