Rep. Bobby Scott and friends (AP Photo)
"Rep. Bobby Scott Hosts Forum on the Closing the Gun Show Loophole Act," the 3rd District Virginia Congressman's web page tells us:
Representative Robert C. “Bobby” Scott, Chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security, will host a bipartisan forum on H.R. 2324, the Closing the Gun Show Loophole Act, on Wednesday, July 14, 2010, along with other cosponsors.
"Bipartisan"? Here's the "Who":
Representative Robert C. “Bobby” Scott (D-VA)
Representative Michael Castle (R-DE)
Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)
Representative Mike Quigley (D-IL)
I guess. They let NRA "F"-rated Mike Castle lend his name to the affair. (And if there were ever good reasons for only donating to individual candidates and not to the GOP, the party's aid and comfort to avowed enemies of our right to keep and bear arms like Castle, Mark Kirk, Dan Coats, etc. ought to be all the reason we need.)
As for the rest? Quigley "spearheaded the effort of 55 Members of Congress in filing a 'friend of the court' amicus brief, urging the Court to allow Chicago’s handgun ban to stand." The ever-energetic McCarthy, who wants to ban "shoulder things that go up," is today announcing a new bill that will only impact the "law-abiding". And truth in advertising notwithstanding, I guess anti-gun zealot Scott figured "host" sounded better than "parasite."
Now let's look at the "Panelists":
Kenneth E. Barnes, Sr., MS, Founder/CEO ROOT, Inc.: Perhaps Mr. Barnes time would be better spent cleaning gun-grabbing fel0ns out of his own house instead of trying to make felons out of the rest of us.
Colonel Gerald Massengill, Sutherland, VA: Here's a guy who says he's "a strong supporter of the Second Amendment" out of one side of his mouth, and follows it up with "We can't allow the proliferation of guns to continue" out of the other. That includes lawful carry by adults in college.
Michael J. Carroll, President, International Association of Chiefs of Police, Alexandria, VA: Why would it surprise us that a globalist group that's a beneficiary of the Joyce Foundation, one that thinks it's "reasonable" for them to be the "only ones" armed, would have a representative on this panel?
Daniel Webster, ScD, MPH, Professor and Co-Director, Center for Gun Policy and Research at John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Baltimore MD: This is a flat-out anti-gun advocacy effort that additionally involves itself in litigation and promoting distractions like non-existent "smart guns." Their leadership is as one-sided as Rep. Scott's forum. Oh, and surprise, the Joyce Foundation is prominent among their benefactors.
Tom Mauser, Littleton, CO: There are two ways to deal with personal tragedy where guns are illegally used. Mauser did not choose Susanna Hupp's way, and has directed his efforts in the opposite direction.
Gerry Nunziato, Youngstown, OH: Nothng like adding a former ATF careerist and semiauto ban advocate to your forum for balance. Here's all we need to know about him, from the panelist himself:
'If it wasn't for criminals, there wouldn't be a gun industry in this country,' Nunziato said, adding that the claims of the NRA and other gun-rights groups that they are protecting law-abiding citizens with their policies are false.
'The only people it's protecting are criminals.'
Colin Goddard, Richmond, VA: A Virginia Tech "victim" who was powerless to protect himself and others, and who, based on his alliance with the Brady Campaign, thinks what we need for a safer society is even more "gun control." Somehow lost in this is the fact that murderer Cho went through background checks.
Chief Scott M. Knight, Chaska Police Department, Chaska, MN: Chief Knight has all kinds of ideas masked by "officer safety" that go beyond gun shows, including a ban on semiautos.
This is Rep. Scott's "bipartisan forum," avowed gungrabbers all, yet presenting themselves as representatives of the whole people. Other views simply don't matter to them.
If left to this group, you'd never know another side to the story exists at all...which is just the way they want it.
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Comments
And we're certainly not going to talk them out of it.
4 Million members?
There are 300 million people in this country.
Sorry.
Minority,
True, but there at LEAST 120 MILLION Gun Owners in America.
Last time I checked, that means that 1 in 3 Americans are known to own guns.
20 MILLION of that 300 Million are Illegal Aliens....so now we've got at least 280 Million Americans......which means that the 1 in 3 ratio goes up to about 1.7 Americans out of 3 own guns.
The bottom line is that either ALL the Constitutional Rights are important or NONE of them are important and we turn into a European country, which stipulates that ANY 'rights' are actually 'privileges' deigned to be given to we mere mortals by our 'higher ups'.
YOU may want to live in an America like that, but I and the MAJORITY of Americans do NOT so wish to do.
Engage some grey matter will you?
Cheers.
To:NRA IS A MINORITY
Name all the groups that have that many dues paying members. Also, let's not forget "Gun Owners of America", "the Second Amendment Foundation", and hundreds of state and local groups. More and more people are realizing that gun control doesn't work; never has, never will. The sophistry used in arguments for gun control have been proven to be false over and over, ad nauseam.
All congress will do is make criminals out of law biding citizens but then wasn't that what the British did before we won our independence? These people are going to push their agenda no matter what we say or how reasonable the train of thought might be from our side. What we have to do is eliminate their ability to do the destructive actions they have vowed to take to make citizens more vulnerable than they are now. Americans are not going to give up their right to protect themselves at a level comparable to what they think the enemy/criminal has no matter how many laws are passed. Murderers are not put to death even though a jury demands it, fewer and fewer crimes are solved each year, and more and more honest citizens are killed by criminals who have always managed to get their hands on guns despite the lousy laws that only hinder law biding citizens. Maybe America will wake up and vote these losers out of office this time.
No MamaL, we're not going to talk them out of it. We have two options to neutralize them. One is peaceful but impractical because there is a majority of people who will vote themselves "free stuff" by returning these traitors to office.
The other is ....well, you know.
'If it wasn't for criminals, there wouldn't be a gun industry in this country,' Nunziato said, adding that the claims of the NRA and other gun-rights groups that they are protecting law-abiding citizens with their policies are false. -----
The Founding Fathers considered the criminals to be a tyrannical government. And this ignoramus didn't know that? Was he born in Kenya?
Gun-grabbers not only practice this tactic, they proudly admit it. Here's what Professor Carl Bogus had to say about a Joyce Foundation legal symposium at Kent that was "packed" exactly the same way:
"Sometimes a more balanced debate is best served by an unbalanced symposium. I did not, therefore, invite anyone who I knew subscribed to the individual rights model... Do you all really not see some hypocrisy in criticizing a symposium that has been forthright about its unbalanced nature and foundation support?"
One rights advocate commented on "the progression of this discussion. A collectivist theorist claims the individualist scholarship is produced with NRA money. No evidence is offered and the claim is shown to be hollow… The same collectivist then *admits* an entire symposium was funded by an anti-gun group and designed to produce more collectivist articles. Finally, the collectivists start chiding the individualists for making too much of the matter. But who brought it up?"
In "1984" George Orwell coined the phrase "newspeak" to refer to a technique whereby an argument could be steered to a predetermined outcome by shaping the very words you forced your opponent to use. The process is not very different from "Stonewall" Jackson's advice to "take the high ground or they will murder you in the valley". There is no such thing as a partial birth abortion. There is no such thing as a semi automatic military style assault weapon. There is no such thing as the gun show loophole. If we use their phrase, or let them use it without objecting to it, we give them the good cards they need to win.
Dear NRA is a Minority: There are about 35 million black people in America, vs 228 million whites. Are you sorry about that too, or doesn't it fit your ethnic cleansing agenda? Whether you progressive, communist thugs come after with us with the law or the twisted facts, you're not going to like the end game. But do come.
These people need to be called what they are.
These people are Country grabbers. They are Marxists, though you will never hear that, on the news. Even on Fox.
Gun grabbing, is just a part of their agenda.
David I get your point that the forum is one sided but in reality these people are puppets and are irrelevant.
Do we really care what they do anymore?
I have been telling people for 2 years the economy was in collapse and they needed to prepare (food, water filter, etc…) while there was still time
By the time these clowns can get anything done the Country will be in a crash that will make the great depression look like a frat party.
The USDA is reporting the possibility of [food shortages/rising food prices] starting this fall.
I knew 2 years ago we had time to prepare; now I know time is very short.
Personally I no longer care about the DC clown shows, I’m more concerned about my family
Worth a causal mention here that the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States stands as a law, written into a legally-binding Contract / Compact between those within the Federal government and those among the people…the ‘governed.’
The primary purpose of this law as written is to specifically limit powers afforded to the ‘Federal’ government.
Under Constitutional Contract / Compact, all powers are afforded TO government ONLY BY CONSENT of the governed.
’shall not be infringed’ are powerful words and an all-encompassing statement in terms of law.
No person, without revealing themselves to be mentally disordered, profoundly ignorant of American history or an outright liar--could possibly suggest that the Founders of this Nation would ever have consented to a Federal licensing requirement for any Freeman to ‘legally’ buy or sell any Fire-Arm, or any number of firearms.
Extending the scope of this clearly unconstitutional law is no less than a trial of patience.
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