“We tortured some folks,” said President Obama. Everybody has known that for a long time. Dragging out the story helps no one. The truth is that torture hurts, but may not kill you. Then again, it depends on who are administering the torture. American contractors, working under supervision from CIA clients administered torture to those who were thought to be responsible for the 911 terrorist attack. They learned some information and facts that eventually supported the termination of Osama bin Laden and other associates.
Should it be America’s policy and practice to torture? The answer should come from Congress and the President. It probably should be no, we should not.
At this point, having done it, may take hundreds of years to get beyond the damage done. Radical Islamic terrorists were not moved by our no torture policy before broke it. They are not going to be moved by our public discussion and hand wringing over it.
There are times when public disclosure is sufficiently handled inside Congressional committees. Further exposure of details does more harm than good.
The CIA spied against a U.S. Senator. That is something worth airing without redaction. The culprits inside the CIA should be fired and prosecuted for the crime.
For the director who said he didn’t know anything about it, well, he should have. Sorry, Mr. Clapper, you are fired too.
If the CIA would be embarrassed by the report without the redactions, then we should rethink it. What is the point of further undermining the agency? If the Commander in Chief was doing his job, he would be on top of this situation with both the CIA and Congressional leadership present to discuss the matter.
Attribute part of the problem here to the “hands-off” Presidential style of Barack Obama. This is when the President needs to be on top of it and in charge.
“James Clapper Insists Redactions On The Torture Report Are 'Minimal'
from the the-least-untruthful-thing-he-could-say dept
On Friday, we wrote about Senator Dianne Feinstein's concern about how much of the executive summary of the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on the CIA torture program had been redacted during the declassification process. In response, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has angrily shot back that there were only "minimal" redactions:
More than 85% of the Committee Report has been declassified, and half of the redactions are in footnotes. The redactions were the result of an extensive and unprecedented interagency process, headed up by my office, to protect sensitive classified information. We are confident that the declassified document delivered to the Committee will provide the public with a full view of the Committee’s report on the detention and interrogation program, and we look forward to a constructive dialogue with the Committee.
Compare that to Feinstein's statement, which noted:
A preliminary review of the report indicates there have been significant redactions. We need additional time to understand the basis for these redactions and determine their justification.
Reporter Jason Leopold spoke to some people knowledgeable about the redactions, who said that they were about methods of torture that hadn't been revealed... and about countries that helped the CIA. Basically, more stuff that would embarrass the CIA and certain allies, but which wouldn't actually impact national security today.”
“Senate Republicans to issue minority report on CIA 'torture' techniques
Saxby Chambliss: ‘information gleaned took down Bin Laden’
Majority to allege techniques were unnecessary and unhelpful
Obama: ‘We tortured some folks’
the gaurdian.com, Sunday 3 August 2014 14.06 EDT
Republicans on the Senate intelligence committee will soon release a minority report asserting that the CIA’s use of harsh interrogation techniques helped bring down Osama bin Laden and other terrorists, the panel’s top Republican said on Sunday.
“Information gleaned from these interrogations was in fact used to interrupt and disrupt terrorist plots, including some information that took down Bin Laden,” the Georgia senator Saxby Chambliss said on CBS’s Face the Nation.
The Senate intelligence committee reports will come five years after it authorised an investigation into the use of possible torture by the CIA after the September 11 attacks.”