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We've been discussing the Brady Center's friend of the court brief in the McDonald case, where Chicago's handgun ban and other gun registration requirements are being challenged in a case that will be heard by the Supreme Court. We've seen how the Bradys consider local bans "reasonable." We've met some globalist police chiefs and union bosses who agree. And today, we're going to examine the fourth signatory to the brief, the National Black Police Association.
Who?
Per the brief:
The National Black Police Association represents approximately 35,000 individual members and more than 140 chapters.
Here's their "mission statement" from their bylaws:
To increase the awareness of the community, to be the conscience of the Criminal Justice System, and to enhance the quality of life in the African American Community.
Huh. That seems pretty superficially exclusive. And there's nothing about supporting and defending the Constitution. They must not want to be mistaken for a group obsessed with race.
Here's the crux of what we need to know about them from their "Positions" page:
HANDGUN CONTROL. The NBPA supports national handgun legislation prohibiting further manufacturing of handguns, and limiting their sales, possession, and use.
That seems pretty definitive and "Only One"-like, does it not? Presumably, if we say "No," they would support using police powers to enforce such edicts against their countrymen. And the Oath Keepers are the ones we're told are the dangerous extremists?
Here are a few other things we should know about this august body of armed control freaks with badges:
The Melissa data nonprofit organization lookup tells us they have been an exempt 501(c)(3) nonprofit since 1986, contributions are tax deductible and there is a form 990 filing requirement. The Brady brief tells us they have 35,000 members. Their membership application specifies annual dues of $100.00 among their other sources of income. For some reason, their form 990s are not presently appearing on Guidestar. And per TaxExemptWorld, they have $0 in assets and income.
Just sayin' it's curious, not that I know the reason for this...
But of course, the real reason this group needs to be held accountable is much more fundamental: They're not informing their members, their supporters or the communities they ostensibly serve about the racist roots and continued racist history of the very "gun control" they promote.
I made that case in an open letter I reproduced here last year. The questions I asked former Cleveland Mayor Michael White should also be answered by the leadership of the National Black Police Association. And my assessment of the way he squandered an opportunity to use his privileged position to advance human freedom--for all--applies to them as well:
[R]ather than being a leader in liberty, you have opted to become just another one of the plantation's overseers.
Slaves aren't allowed to own guns. Their masters forbid it.
And the coalition assembled by the Bradys in their brief demands it.
Comments
Amazing how ignorant our leaders and those meant to protect us seem to be.
It disgusts me that you can publish your opinions and purport that they are news. Comparing yourself to an actual slave because a group of people doesn't agree with your right to handle a deadly weapon is ludicrous and offensive. I find it unlikely that the NBPA supports gun control because they are "race-obsessed," "extremist," "freaks," or "poorly informed." I assume they support gun control because they have seen seen the deadly cost of gun ownership. Even if you did make good points, which you don't, I wouldn't be able to find them through the smear of hate and ad hominem attacks.
No laws apply or enforceable against "the chosen ones".
Bans on sexual harassment in did not apply to President Clinton's treatment of Monica Lewenski.
Bans on "straw man sales" and requirements for background checks did not apply to Sarah Brady's purchase of a bolt action rifle as a gift for her son.
DC's ban of private posession of handguns did not apply to Carl Rowan, who shot an intruder in his swimming pool with a handgun given to him by his son, an FBI agent.
Laws passed by the elite are only meant to apply to us, the great unwashed. That situation will remain as long as the majority of voters continue to choose the candidate who promises to hand out the most goodies.
tallyresident, I challenge you to watch this video...
"No Guns for Negroes" www.jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ngn-download-view.htm
And, if you have a few spare moments, think about the murder of many millions - every race and creed - by their governments AFTER they were disarmed. You DO remember the holocaust, Cambodia, China, and all the other genocide of the 20th century...
tallyresident,
You might want to actually read Davids open letter and look at the history of gun control in this country. Starting from laws passed before the revolution up through the 70's the vast majority of gun laws were meant to disarm minorities. During reconstruction laws were passed in many states to disbar black freemen the right to arms, the 1866 civil rights act and the 14th amendment was to correct this but they were gutted by state court and then by the Supreme Court in Slaughterhouse and Cruikshank.
I am unclear on the "deadly cost" of gun ownership as we have under 30,000 fatalities including suicide per year. The vast majority of those non suicides are committed by people who are unable to legally possess a firearm such as minors and felons. Hardly what we would call gun owners, we could call them gun users or possessors. The 80 million legal gun owners in this country are responsible for a tiny fraction of gun crimes or violence. Continued....
Most gun violence is a result of the unregulated drug black market as gangs dispute territory and market share. If you want to lower violence in America ending the drug war and legalization would be a good start. It would certainly be more effective than trying to ban another inanimate object.
I had a conversation w/a young black man some years back. He was dead-set against guns.
I asked him how much cotton did he think slaves would have picked if they had guns.
In his eyes you could see the light come on.
'nuf sed.
tallyresident WROTE:
"I find it unlikely that the NBPA supports gun control because they are "race-obsessed," "extremist," "freaks," or "poorly informed." I assume they support gun control because they have seen seen the deadly cost of gun ownership."
So - a group who have all taken an oath to defend the Constitution have a platform that promotes disemboweling the Bill of Rights. But that's not "extreme." And people get murdered in "gun-free" zones, yet this group believes only they should carry the best means of self-protection.
And the same group had no compelled legal obligation to protect you if you dial 911, but that's not "extreme." Yet the racist roots of "gun control" are ignored by this group, but they're not " poorly informed."
If they truly understand the implications, their purpose is nefarious. Disarm me and my family, and let us call for help - to people with no obligation to respond.
That's, extreme, anti-self defense, and capricious.
Reply to Mama Liberty:
The same people who would constantly remind us of the inhumanity of the institution of black slavery in the Southern states conveniently forget the genocides of the holocaust, Cambodia, and China as well as the purges of Stalin’s USSR. They choose not to remember Sherman’s “March to the Sea” and his war against Southern civilian noncombatants. They choose not to remember that slavery was alive and well in the northern states and in territories and states occupied by union troops and under union control during the War for Southern Independence and that many northern slave owners refused to free their slaves until after the 13th Amendment was ratified and became a part of the Constitution. They choose not to remember the plight of 1st generation Japanese and Italian Americans who were disarmed, rounded up, and placed into concentration camps, under the threat of deadly force, during the early 40’s.
Reply to Mama Liberty Continued;
They choose to forget about the indigenous peoples of the North American Continent who were disarmed, rounded up and placed into “reservations” (concentration camps) or cemeteries under threat/use of deadly force, in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s because the government “needed” their land.
The centralists control mongers have done it before and they harbor no hesitation about doing it today.
Mama Liberty, tallyresident won’t bother to watch the JPFO video. He’s already got his mind closed to accepting any information that might conflict with his own personal prejudices.
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I am amazed that police officers would want to ban gun ownership. They of all people would know the numbers and have actual experience with legal carriers preventing crime, saving their own lives, etc. The numbers are indisputable and vastly overwhelming.
We should all have problems with any group that soley supports one race over another and openly proclaims such a position. Banning them only justifies their position in their eyes. The regular police unions need to promote equality and thus draw away their membership to something better. Writing another law will do no good because we have too many conflicting laws as it is. Most gun crime is committed by minorities because no one has stepped forward and given them another way out. A minority child given the chance to study anything he wants at a free study center is not about to go out and take up a gun especially if he learns a gun is a last choice defensive option and not meant to be an offensive weapon in a reasonably sane person's hands. But who teaches them that. No one. Not their parents, not the schools, not the non-existant free study centers. No one teachs a child of any color that a gun does not lead to long lasting riches and that only education will do that over time.
Out in Oregon, in Josephine County, our Sheriff got caught up in a question about concealed carry in the courthouse. You can read his open letter response here: oregonfirearms.org/alertspage/11.05.09%20alert.html
What was interesting and inspiring was that in his letter he also made a call for more armed citizens to HELP the SHERIFF's dept reduce crime.
"To take guns away from citizens lessening their ability to protect themselves, especially given our weak law enforcement presences, would be a true injustice that I will not abide by. As long as I remain Sheriff of this County, I will fight to uphold our Constitutional rights."
These men get it. When the $$$ aren't there to 'buy protection' individuals must rise up and be available. The more politicians push disarmament, the more taxes they will have to raise to pay for increased 'community protection'. When the governments 'break the bank' the citizens will be unemployed, broke & disarmed. Time to go clean my pitchfork...
Tallyresident, the problem I see with your post and idiotic opinion is that you know absolutely nothing about the issue. The facts dispute your opinion, therefore we must either assume you are subpar in intelligence or evil in intent. Those are the only two options available in assessing the value of anyone whose opinions are contraindicated by facts.
Let's assume you are merely ignorant, the third option, but that makes for evil intent when you push an opinion without knowledge as its basis. Go learn the subject, learn the history and its consequences . Then you can have an opinion that others may listen to , and the upside of that knowledge, you can rid yourself of that evil intent, which at this point may be not be on purpose, but your unenlightened opinion still pushes evil at this point. Get rid of it through educating yourself on the issue.
Here's a good place to start, google the Black Codes and follow all the related topics. [cont]
[cont} In the meantime ponder this question. Why would anyone need YOU to be helpless and unarmed unless they had evil aspirations against you, your family, your liberty or your property?
David Codrea, I'm not at all surprised that some black police organization is concerned more for its race than the U.S. Constitution. THe NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus are like-minded organizations. To them, the Constitution is a piece of paper that sanctioned slavery. Blacks are always the loudest to howl for more gun control, turn over guns to their churches and coddle black criminals. This black police organization knows that black people commit most of the violent crimes in this country, so they'd rather call for more gun control, than favor the Second Amendment, because they don't want to see their black soul brothers shot and killed trying to rob a liquor store or commit a carjack.
To Tex;
I'm not surprised that police officers (especially in the cities) are against the right of civilians to keep and bear arms. It's all about power and control. If SCOTUS incorporates the Second Amendment against states and cities in McDonald, it will send a message to the police that the civilian doesn't need them as much for their own protection. The civilian will have that right to defend themselves and their families without worrying whether the squad car will get there in time. They'll have their own portable police officer in their pocket or holster or pack.
Luis- "Blacks are always the loudest to howl for more gun control, turn over guns to their churches and coddle black criminals."
I hope you are not inferring that ALL African Americans subscribe to this unenlightened mindset. You would be mistaken. In the future, kindly refrain from making stereotypical statements. Thank you.
Joshua, I didn't say ALL blacks, I said "blacks... Besides, what you call "stereotypes", is based on observations. As far as you telling me to "refrain from making stereotypical statements"..., what are you going to do, try to throw me in a North Korean gulag?
Luis, I would never wish a North Korean gulag on anyone especially anyone here.
No Joshua, I disagree. Very few of the people we argue the issue of individual right to bear arms are uninformed. Most of these people I have found "intentionally" forward their agenda, even when they get spanked badly by the overwhelming facts and data.
To continue arguing with these people like Luis and tallyresident is frankly a waste of time, but no doubt it can be fun to rattle their chains. No, reality is, people like Luis & Tallyresident SHOULD experience a North Korean Gulag. Then they will truly KNOW what and why the second amendment exists for!
As for Tallyresident, we dont see you leveling the same complaints to the Brady Bunch or any other gun control organization by their fear and adhominem attacks so by default that makes you a flaming hypocrite by your own actions. Such a conflicted mindset that must be, to know the facts then lie constantly, day in, day out. Pretty soon, one would wonder how you manage to tell where the lies end and the truth begins anymore.
"HANDGUN CONTROL. The NBPA supports national handgun legislation prohibiting further manufacturing of handguns, and limiting their sales, possession, and use."
No. Your move.
Something not mentioned was the breakdown on the NBPA's membership. How many are command types vs how many are patrol officers? I have a brother and an uncle that are both retired cops. I assure you that the overwhelming majority of line cops, rural or urban, of all races, have no problem with law abiding citizens being armed. That cannot neccessarily be said of police captains, majors and chiefs. Those jobs are more political than law enforcement in nature, and the people who hold them tend to echo the opinions of the people who appointed them to their posts.
They can't give $100/yr to help a proven enemy undermine us, and then claim they're on our side. I mean, they CAN, but I, for one, won't believe them.
I am sorely disappointed by the remarks I see here. Clearly not one of you who is casting accusations against the NBPA, knows a member of the NBPA.....I suppose it would be far too easy and too much like right to have someone you can actually "ask" what they are thinking, rather than making up your own stories, conclusions, and misrepresentations. Don't worry though. I am a member, and I've passed this on to other members. Perhaps they may feel compelled to conversate with you, or perhaps not. As it is, we are confronted by naysayers all the time, and usually don't waste time arguing points with the close-minded. We are about action, and respecting other's opinions by letting them have them. If you are against gun control, then lobby your legislators. But please, please, don't deign to think that you know what you're talking about, without doing some research. Have a great one!
Start out by telling us wazzup with no tax filings?
The presumption that slaves did not own or use weapons is in error, at least in my family.
"Isaac Watching his Corn at Night, Hears it Growing."
It is interesting that he owns a pistol, sword, and dirk.
First Kill Of The War
"For twenty minutes the Federals hammered at Hill's left, and were driven off by a heavy fire which killed a Union major, Theodore Winthrop. Claimants for the honor of inflicting this casualty were three of Hill's privates and the Negro body servant of a fourth - the latter a crack shot."
SoniaP- Although I would be very interested to know where $3.5m annually of tax money goes it is really a moot point, isn't it. At the end of day, it doesn't make any difference what the gun control position is of your organization or what laws are passed as a result of your organizations' use of $3.5m of tax money. We will not DISARM!
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SoniaP what questions should someone ask a member of a group that "supports national handgun legislation prohibiting further manufacturing of handguns, and limiting their sales, possession, and use."
I think the group's own statement leaves little room for "making up your own stories, conclusions, and misrepresentations."
What other rights are the NBPA willing to deny the citizens that its members are supposedly tasked with protecting? You must be sooo proud to be a member of the NBPA.
OK, Sonia, I'll bite.
1. Does the National Black Police Association believe that disarming law-abiding citizens will keep everyone safer?
2. Is your association's statement about gun control only about police safety?
3. How many laws that are on the books are broken by lawbreakers?
4. Why would criminals obey gun control laws?
5. Which specific laws do lawbreakers NOT break, and why?
6. If laws prevent crime, why do you even have a job?
7. Do drug laws prevent drug abuse? Are the percentages, per capita, of narcotic and drug addicts higher, lower, or the same since the introduction of the Harrison Narcotics Act and subsequent drug control laws?
8. Which U.S. cities or states in which guns are essentially outlawed have lower crime rates than Vermont?
Isaac was in North Carolina, where they had provisions for FREED men to have weapons-if they had a license. There were no legal provisions I can find for slaves to have legally-recognized gun ownership, and North Carolina v. Mann specifically "ruled that slaveowners had absolute authority over their slaves and could not be found guilty of committing violence against them," hence no legally recognized right to self defense.
In re black Confederate soldiers, from what I've read, most of that was authorized in the field and without "legal" sanction by the Confederate Congress until late in the war--in any case, it was more "desperate times call for desperate measures" than a policy of recognizing rights. Justice Taney notoriously confirmed in Dred Scott that if blacks were citizens "they would have the right to ...to keep and carry arms wherever they went."
Anecdotes do not undo the slave and black codes, and it is a general truism that slaves were not permitted to be armed.
SoniaP, do not insult my intelligence. I'm not one of the uninformed rabble which you seem to encounter among your circle of friends. Save the condescending tone for someone who doesn't know any better.
The fact that The National Black Police Association has aligned itself in the past with a who's who cornucopia of the most rabid Second Amendment opponents such as: Mayor's against illegal guns, Brady Campaign, Senator Frank R. Lautenberg(D- NJ), Representative Carolyn B. Maloney (D-NY), Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), Hillary Clinton, and President (then Senator) Barack Obama, tells me everything I need to know about your merry band of Constitution haters.
Do yourself a favor and find some new friends.
Sonia P. accuses us of making up stories when we use her own words? That's chutzpah! Yeah, Sonia P. they are your words because you defend them and belong to the organization that said them. An organization that would put everybody back on the plantation picking cotton, oh ok, let's admit that isn't quite true, they would just pull bolls now, instead of picking the cotton sans seeds. How bright is that?
I wonder exactly what SoniaP does for a living. When I wore a badge and dealt with convicted felons, those felons made no secret of the fact that they liked gun control because (1) it made it more likely their victims would be unarmed and (2) they knew they could always obtain weapons illegally themselves.
What sort of cop wants to disarm honest folk? Why does Sonia's organization promote a safe work place for violent criminals, and wouldn't that violate their oaths?
Oh, right.
In my town, we had a police chief who had a number of problems including refusing to issue carry licenses. He got fired, and when a judge reinstated him pending a court hearing, every other HONORABLE officer in the department walked out. They refused to work with him. The surrounding towns suspended mutual support agreements while the "chief" was on the job.
I'll bet none of those decent oath-keeping (generically speaking; I don't know if any have joined OK) cops are members of NBPA.
the only reason why blacks want gun control is because them and the hispanics are the only ones doing the killing period.there, i said what every anti gunner always wants to say but doesn't have the cohones{balls} to say,for whatever reason. it would be nice for them to stop blaming everyone else for whats going on.if anybody in this entire world should be against gun control it's blacks and jews for what they've been through.but no.there always the ones with this stop the violence b.s. ohhhhhh what happened say no to drugs didnt work to good did it.these liberals are always trying to find a way to comfort the blacks and hispanics. for one reason and one reason only.VOTES. AUGH WE FEEL BAD THEY'VE BEEN IN PRISON LONG ENOUGH LET THEM OUT,WHO CARES IF THEY COMMIT ANOTHER CRIME WE'LL JUST BLAME THE LAW ABIDING GUN OWNERS. ONE SIMPLE QUESTION WHERE IS THE MOST CRIME COMMITTED.IT'S CALLED INNER CITIES, NEW YORK,AND THATS 5 BOROUGHS NEWARK COMPTON SOUTH CENTRAL CHICAGO LITTLE ROCK DETROIT
WAIT I WASN'T DONE.A LITTLE BIO OF ME SO NO ONE STARTS CALLING AL SHARPTON ON ME.I'm hispanic live in newark n.j. all my live, and own guns legally, i just love the sport i didn't have the privilage to exercise growing up.now i do and exercise it to the fullist.i am a life member of the NRA,GOA AND SAF.
Sonia P, your organization apparently bases membership on the color of one's skin, so why should we not conclude that it is racist? And David is right. A few anecdotes do not undo the slave codes.
If you want to ban all handgun manufacture, and restrict the existing ones to the point of uselessness, then I suggest, you cops give up your guns first. Until you do, you are just a useless hypocrite; not some elite ubertrustworthy-with-guns group. (Not as long as you have people like Lee Paige and other "Only Ones" in your ranks, anyway.)
Since I doubt that any of this will change your mind, I guess I'll have to say the same as others have said: Molon Labe. Come and take them, if you think you have the 'nads, But it will cost you dearly.
Personal squabble deleted. Not here, please.
I'M SURE AL SHARPTON HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE NBPA'S INVOLVEMENT IN PRESENTING THEIR CASE TO THE SUPREME COURT..IT SICKENS ME THAT THEY ALWAYS FIND A REASON TO "CRY, COMPLAIN AND BICKER" ABOUT EVERYTHING. IF GUNS WERE ELIMATED, THEY WOULD BE MARCHING THE STREETS COMPLAINING THAT THERE WERE TO MANY BLACK ON BLACK CRIMES BEING COMMITTED BY BUTTER KNIVES. SERIOUSLY, I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE SEEN ANY ORGANIZATION RALLY AGAINST DRUGS, ON THE CONTRARY THEY JUST BLAME THE GOVERMENT AND EVERYONE ELSE FOR THEIR OWN MISERY AND NOW THEIR BLAMING THE LEGAL GUN OWNERS FOR THEIR OWN RACES' MISTAKES.IN MY OPINION, CONGRESS SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED WITH KEEPING THE 40,000 CONVICTED CRIMINALS BEHIND BARS IN CALIFORNIA..IF ANYTHING THATS WHAT THE NBPA SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT, IF THEY RELEASE THOSE 40,000 CRIMINALS, ITS JUST GOING TO TMAKE THEM WORK HARDER.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I have read that most blacks were sent to the slave traders by other blacks. Many freed blacks owned their own slaves whether north or south of the Mason-Dixon line. Although most will not admit it, many of them have slave-owning white grandparents as well. Why should we suppose modern blacks to be different from their grandparents?
I stand with Ken. No. Move, Sonia. We will see how much you value your beliefs.
I want to weigh in with a reminder that this is the fourth part in a series about the Brady brief, and the first three articles focused on its supporters who do not identify with any ethnic group, but rather an ideological one. That violent crime is more prevalent in urban areas has everything to do with a concentration of misguided/evil government policies, especially those promoting dependency, and is another form of victimization. If we mistakenly focus on race as causality, we allow ourselves to be misdirected. Freedom--and responsibility--are the birthright of us all. Better to reach out and embrace people of all backgrounds and persuasions who believe in that, and join together in promoting a culture of human rights and dignity, which include the right to life and liberty and the means to attain and preserve it--for all.
Well said David. Thank you for that enlightened analysis.
My comment below refers only to the National Black Police Association in the context of this article. I doubt seriously whether many members know the subversive nature of their 'club' or why it seeks to eliminate their god-given rights. Whites do not have a monopoly on enslaving their neighbors. It's time our black neighbors awoke to this fact, and help to correct this wrong lest they find themselves once again enslaved completely.
"That violent crime is more prevalent in urban areas has everything to do with a concentration of misguided/evil government policies, especially those promoting dependency, and is another form of victimization. If we mistakenly focus on race as causality, we allow ourselves to be misdirected."
Thank you, David. Reading some of the comments here I wanted to say something similar but I doubt I would have been so polite about it.
It is not about race, creed, color, sexual orientation or any of the other pigeonholes the collectivists use to divide people from each other. RKBA is for everybody. Got that Sonia?
It is laughable to hear the gun lobby pretending to be on the side of the black civil rights movement. You people are rooted in the far right mental universe that made Jim Crow possible in the first place. It was good Christian gun-owning whites who MADE slavery, and those same people reproduced it for generations, and those same people fought against the federal govt. tooth and nail to prevent extending voting and other rights to blacks. The party most of you vote with was established on a racist strategy of moving into the civil rights era South and playing on the paranoid delusions of racist whites. Those of you who aren't owned by the Republicans like people like Ron Paul, who has a long history of racist writings behind him.
You are fooling no one, gentlemen. We understand your intentions.
I saw in passing that the black female anti-gun mayor of a major city -- I think she was once a congresswoman or something as well -- is being charged with personal use of a gift card donated by businesses, intended for inner-city kids' Christmas gift purchases. Bought her family a video game console and other goodies.
I could look it up and tell you her name and other particulars, but there are so many of these ... scofflaw and scoundrel sound somehow romantic and noble. How about statist elitist scum? Professional leeches? How they feel about our gun rights is how they feel about law, justice and fairness in total. They got theirs; sorry about yours. But not really.
Clear Eyes, you seem to have missed the last 80 years or so of American history, in which BOTH major parties have staked out segments of citizens' lives in which NO DISOBEDIENCE WILL BE TOLERATED. There's enough overlap between conservative extremism and liberal extremism to make possible a totalitarian dystopia of Stalinist proportions.
We will not go gently.
I'm of mixed race, white and Indian, and my sister is married to a black physician, my favorite of my three brothers-in
-law. How far back do you have to go to find racism in Ron Paul's writings? Age 17? When he says "Govern by the Constitution," he speaks for me.
Throwing stereotypes around is a fool's game. We all lose.
That Clear Eyes assumes those advocating preservation of God-given rights would stand on the side of the black civil rights movement is laughable. The black civil rights movement has always been as racist as Jim Crow—Just on the other side.
Our Creator knows no race. His liberty stands of its own as an individual right to be defended on an individual basis. Clear eyes needs to know that should he choose to curtail my rights at the muzzle of a gun, like the deacons (do you suppose he knows who they were?), I will shoot back.
Clear Eyes, I know for a fact that not all the commenters here are Christian (and look up Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, www.jpfo.org). I think you refer to the Republican party (which I don't vote for), which happened to be Abraham Lincoln's party (you know, the guy credited in history books with freeing slaves, and who happened to be white). Personally, given the racial/ethnic range of my own extended family, I couldn't figure out who to racially discriminate against even if so inclined, and I oppose all forms of slavery, including conscription. Check your assumptions.
We're not just on the side of "black civil rights" or white; we want to protect the rights of all people. There's nothing in the Second Amendment about race.
The "gun lobby" isn't the homogenous, band of NRA white separatist militia members that gun control groups pretend we are. Some people's views beyond RKBA can be... distasteful. But we're generally, and associate with, decent people.
"Clear Eyes," I guess if you want to come here and LIE, I can't stop you. Per Diane Alden: "In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes.
[www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1982/3/82.03.04.x.html.]"
Repubs voted in much larger percentages than Dems for the 1964 Civil Rights Act:
"By party
Original House version:
* Dem: 152-96 (61%-39%)
* Rep: 138-34 (80%-20%)
Cloture in the Senate:
* Dem: 44-23 (66%-34%)
* Rep: 27-6 (82%-18%)
Senate version:
* Dem: 46-21 (69%-31%)
* Rep: 27-6 (82%-18%)
Senate version, voted on by House:
* Dem: 153-91 (63%-37%)"
Al Gore's pop voted AGAINST-& made their black maid wait in the car while they dined at a 'whites only' restaurant.
So spare us your ignorance. It's not us denying people of color their right to arms.
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