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Billy Meier, Asket, Jmmanuel and time travel, part 3 of 3

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We conclude, from part 1 and part 2, considering the extra-terrestrial alien named Asket “was the second offworlder to contact Billy [Meier].” That which follows are the notes regarding a time when Asket took Meier back in time circa 2,000 years to the time of Jmmanuel whom they claim is the original and actual person who later came to be called Jesus.

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In Asket's Explanations - Part 7 the Jmmanuel vs. Jesus Christ issue continues as Jmmanuel states, “154. If one, however, associates me in any kind of manner with this name then one accuses me of wrong and of lying” to which Billy Meier, hilariously, states, “You are very sensitive, Jmmanuel.”

And on it goes as he also states that “172….the name Jesus Christ, malevolently given to me”:

“173. It will be asserted that I, Jmmanuel, would not be falsely named Jesus Christ, so it is supposed to appear that I, Jmmanuel, and the person of Jesus Christ, who I am imputed to be, have been two different people.”

Billy Meier takes an opportunity to declare himself, via these writings, to be more advanced than Jmmanuel (keeping in mind that Meier traveled back in time):

“You thereby mean that in regard to your development, and so on, calculated in your time, you live in my future time, therefore roughly calculated as about the year 2000?...But you have spoken of more than 3,000 years in regard to me. I am supposed to be advanced, by this number of years, in spiritual development in relation to the real time of the year 1953. Is that not quite grossly underestimated for you?”

Jmmanuel replies:

“204. From this time, in which I live here, I am advanced in my spiritual evolution already by about 2,000 years, while you are about 3,000 years advanced of your real time. 205. So therefore our spiritual development is truly not the same in my current and in your normal time. 206. You are, in real life, about 2,000 years further advanced than myself, and are indeed already 3,000 years advanced of your own time in your spiritual development. 207. Truly it is calculated in such a way that you, in your time, and I in my time, do not display a common level of spiritual development.”

But, of course, during Jmmanuel’s time Billy Meier is more advanced since he came from the future but when Billy returns to the future then Jmmanuel will be more advanced as he will have 2,000 years on Billy but then Billy should have lost 2,000 when he went back in time and thus been less advanced than Jmmanuel…oi vey, the grandmother paradox has nothing on this.

On the other hand, a “Note from Billy” on this text states:

“‘Billy’ Eduard Albert Meier, in this time, on his part, is already again more than 3,000 years further advanced and consequently again more than 3,000 years in advance of Jmmanuel's spirit form in overall spiritual evolution.”

In Asket's Explanations - Part 8 Billy Meier asks Jmmanuel “how things stand with your teachings” since “It is indeed said in the New Testament that you are the son of God; and that God himself embodies Creation.”

Well, the New Testament refers to Jesus as the son of God but not that God himself embodies Creation. In fact, as per above, the Meiersian concept of Creation is nothing like the Bible’s concept of creation.

Meier also states:

“in these testament texts, God is always even spoken of as the Heavenly Father and you are spoken of as the redeemer of mankind, and so forth. Everything is quite confused and often even absolutely illogical and paradoxical.”

Jmmanuel agrees, “213. Truly, you say it” and reiterates that Judas wrote the original and accurate version. He also states that within the New Testament:

“mendacious words [prone to lying at any time, deliberately untrue, etc.] are put into my mouth, and I am supposed to have spoken of a father in heaven, the gathering of a host of angels and many other false things [that] do not correspond to the truth…an evil deception and abominable falsification on the part of the twisters of the texts and false teachers…falsifications lies…slander.”

Jmmanuel states, “221. God was never put on a level with Creation by me, because God is a creature of Creation as are you and I and every other human.” So, according to the Meier definition, Creation created God and thus, in a manner of speaking, Creation is God’s God.

One thing that Meier has going for him is that he never bothers distinguishing relation—as in what we are to have with Jesus—and religion—understood as an authoritative hierarchy. In other words, he makes good point about the corrupt nature of manmade religion and then takes his readers/listeners down the road towards alien theology. Yet, manmade religion is not Christianity and true Christianity is not manmade religion. Here is the only positive statement about “religion” in the New Testament:

“Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.” (James 1:27)

Billy Meier asks “But how is it then with religion in general?” and makes an attempt to define that of which he speaks, “And when I thereby speak of religion, then I mean really the religion itself, not, for instance, the dogmas and other false teachings.” He also states that the dogmas and false teachings are make up the modern day “cult.”

Jmmanuel replies, “231. Truly, you are not inferior to me in my teachings” and promulgates a dogma, “235. But these religions must be free of misleading cults, from dogmas and false teachings.” It is dogmatic to demand that “religions must be free…from dogmas.”

As we noted in our article Extra-terrestrial alien messages – how, what and how we provided a template for understanding, reading between the lines of such messages and how they all lead to the establishment of a new world order with a one world religion. Case in point, Jmmanuel goes on to say that when “the truth is again purified” then “religion and relegeon can again be united.” Well, this is because he had previously noted that “239….religion is fundamentally wrong, and only relegeon alone can be useful.”

This segment of Billy Meier’s notes are the end of the “Asket's Explanations” and although, as Meier notes, “further reports of the contacts with Asket must be interrupted here. The reason for that is that I can no longer locate the old reports from the year 1953/1964, as I have obviously hidden them too well.” Don’t you hate it when an alien takes you back in time to meet Jmmanuel but you misplace some of your notes about it?



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