I do not often reprint full articles written by others. But having been involved in exposing ACORN as the anti-Civil American rights, socialist organization it is for two years, I cannot let Anita MonCrief's expose of ACORN suffer anything less that as much exposure it can possibly get. Already Anita's latest work has been reprinted by HotAir.com, and examined by American Thinker's Thomas Lifson.
Anita MonCrief according to her facebook page, is
"a blogger and writer in Washington, DC. She attended the University of Alabama. She has worked with the American Bar Association Central European and Eurasian Law Initiative; the International Crisis Group; Grameen Foundation and ACORN. Anita has partnered with the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe on their mission to Macedonia as an election observer. In 2005, she joined the Strategic Writing and Research Department of ACORN Political Operations and its affiliate Project Vote. In 2008 Anita came forward to expose the damage that ACORN has done to the impoverished and marginalized communities, as well as its rampant voter fraud. Anita is also a social artist and her works promote social change and poverty eradication. She also blogs at www.anitamoncrief.blogivists.com"
This lady knows the inside of ACORN from the perspective of someone who worked with the officers running the whole operation. She knows what it is all about because she was part of running it. I have asserted from the beginning, that ACORN was a political movement Socialist in nature. That much is clear from what it does, regardless of what it says it is doing. Those who blindly support this socialist movement are assisting it out of ignorance for what it is in reality. It is an organization whose specific goal is to overturn our current government system (that of a Democratic Republic), and recreate it as a Socialist Nation.
Those liberals who support ACORN are also socialists whether they realize it or not. Liberals use ACORN - ACORN uses Liberals and it is a full partnership on each side. No wonder 40% of the Tea Party is made up of Democrats and Independents! That is according to The Winston Group who released this on Arpil 1st 2010. In reality, it is only a small percentage of the US population which is cognitively aware that they are socialists. Far more democrats aren't aware that the leadership of their party has been taken over by these same people - the true Socialists - those running ACORN, Congress, and the White House.
Every day, more awaken to the fact that these folks are not acting in the best interests of this Nation and all of her people. That’s what we have the constitution for, to prevent men and women like these - who run ACORN, the Congressional leadership, the president - from ever gaining and maintaining their power over the people. We are guaranteed a government FOR the people, and this does not describe Congress, the White House or ACORN under their current leadership.
Anita MonCrief pulls back the curtain at her blog, and she shows everyone just who it is pulling the levers. It is an eye opening experience for anyone not familiar with what ACORN really does, and why.
Right on sister! Thank you!
~Dianna Cotter 5-30-2010
God Bless and all our men and women in the armed services on this Memorial Day! Without them and their ongoing sacrifices, there would be no freedom! Thank a Veteran today!
Anita's full blog article can be found here with numerous photos. It is well worth the visit.
May 24, 2010 6:29pm
Ex-Liberal, ACORN Whistleblower, Citizen Journalist
As an ex-ACORN insider and ex-radical who used Democrat donor lists to raise money for ACORN alter-ego Project Vote and designed the ACORN 2005, 2006 and 2007 Political Operations Year End PowerPoint presentations, I know that President Obama (for whom I now regretfully admit I proudly voted) was an ACORN guy for many years and realize that he became the instrument for the implementation of its stealth socialism agenda.
National Journal rated Obama the most “liberal” United States Senator, even more “liberal” than avowed socialist Bernard Sanders of Vermont (for whom then Senator Obama campaigned), because he earned it.
In her sensational New York Times no. 1 bestseller, “Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies,” published in 2009, intrepid Michelle Malkin generously gave me “special thanks” for daring to expose ACORN corruption and wrote about it and the New York Times cover up of the Obama/ACORN relationship in detail at pages 244-49. (Since that material was added after the manuscript had been sent to the printer, I did not make the index.)
Stealth socialism in vogue
It’s not surprising that on May 3, 2010 Aaron Klein and Brenda J. Elliot released “The Manchurian President: Barack Obama’s Ties to Communists, Socialists and Other Anti-American Extremists” and on May 15, 2010 former Speaker Newt Gingrich released a book titled “To Save America: Stopping Obama’s Secular Socialist Machine.” Of course they are right about Obama’s radical ties and “secular socialist machine.” (I’m looking forward to Laura Ingraham’s “The Obama Diaries,” out on or about July 13, 2010, but I bet President Obama isn’t.)
Even though on October 21, 2008 The New York Times killed the Obama/ACORN expose on which I been reporter Stephanie Strom’s source and I decided to blow the whistle myself and appeared on Laura Ingraham’s radio show before the end of the month, Bill O’Reilly of Fox News apparently did not learn about it until March of 2009 (the month in which attorney Heather Heidelbaugh, for whom I voluntarily became a witness in the Pennsylvania ACORN, testified before a Congressional committee about ACORN voter registration fraud and the New York Times cover up), it was inevitable that the truth about Obama, ACORN and “stealth socialism” finally would become generally known as the socialist agenda was implemented. After all, the idea was for Obama to deliver as President on that “fundamental change” that he promised as a presidential hopeful.
After an appealing generality becomes an examinable specific and the cost calculations are done, putting lipstick on a pig doesn’t fool nearly as many people. For example, Obamacare is a massive wealth redistribution program and–no surprise–not long after it was enacted, an Obama Administration official acknowledged it and we learned that Obamacare would be much more expensive than it had been officially estimated before it was passed.
Defining stealth socialism
Graham L. Strachan explained the “stealth socialism” path this way:
“Why did the Western media persist in calling the social system in the Communist bloc ‘Communism’ instead of Socialism? They did it to manufacture a false reality: to protect the reputation of another form of Socialism which existed in the West….so-called ‘Democratic Socialism’, socialism by stealth, socialism achieved through the ‘permeation’ of existing political institutions by members of organisation such as the Fabian Society, in order to influence the policies adopted by those institutions towards socialism.
“Democratic Socialism itself was based on a lie: that Socialism could be implemented peacefully through the ballot box. The implication was that if the voters didn’t like it they could vote it out again. That was a hoax. Since Socialism does not permit private ownership of property, it cannot be ‘democratic’ in the sense of allowing a choice of political Parties. This is not a matter of ideology, but of logistics. It would be impossible to have a two Party system of genuine democracy, for example, under which the state nationalised all property including business when the Socialists were voted into power, then sold it all back to the people again when they were voted out. The intention of Democratic Socialism was (and still is) to be democratic just long enough to gain power. Then it will declare the ‘end of history’ and entrench itself forever, enforcing its politically correct speech and thought on everybody, and being just as tyrannical as its Marxist revolutionary counterparts.”
How to make a socialist the ACORN way
As an ACORN insider my indoctrination as a socialist was a slow but steady progression from radical liberalism to embracing the stealth socialist methods that had made ACORN a powerful force in American electoral politics. Two years ago, in the mist of a heated presidential election year, I noticed a Facebook page of Socialism 2008. The graffiti-like picture beckoned young Socialists to Chicago, Illinois on June 19th, 2008. I RSVPed for the event on Facebook without fully understanding what had just taken place. The line between radical, liberal Democrat and socialist was almost invisible at this point.
Working for ACORN/Project Vote facilitated my crossing the “socialist”threshold and I had become what insiders termed “one of the true believers.” True believers were instrumental in the survival of ACORN and the process of making an employee a true believer began on the very first day.
Inside ACORN offices across the country, young, idealistic liberals were being ingrained with the Saul Alinsky style of Organizing. Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals was never mentioned by name, but Alinsky’s tactics were used on employees and ACORN members.
ACORN’s strategy of stealth socialism was aimed at gaining power through duplicity and somewhat assimilating into society. Alinsky, the “father of community organizing,” taught that the path to power necessitated the use of people who would serve as pawns.
“Organizing for power was Alinsky’s political end, not political party influence. When he asked his new students why they wanted to organize, they would invariably respond with ’selfless bromides about wanting to help others,’ according to Ryan Lizza writing in The New Republic. Alinsky would then “scream back at them that there was a one-word answer: “You want to organize for power!’”
Saul Alinsky almost single-handedly invented the modern art of community organizing…
He was a master teacher of others, and left a legion of trained disciples and organizations, including Obama and Clinton.”
Every ACORN employee was given a copy of the ACORN Organizing Model, bylaws and various information on running campaigns, but the real education was in how ACORN operated behind the scenes. Like Alinsky, ACORN openly organized to build power, but ACORN’s ace in the hole was the black community.
Community organizers became the “information police” for minorities in dozens of cities. As the official representative for its members, ACORN was able to frame the debate in ways that aligned with its People’s Platform. The platform is based on the socialist idea of sharing the wealth. Members were asked, even coerced, to attend rallies and protests for issues ACORN had decided would lead to power.
As students exited schools with a “liberal arts” education and a desire to help, ACORN stood ready with the social justice flag in one hand and a cigarette lighter and American flag in the other. Attending such events like Socialism 2008 was the culmination of two years of looking the other way and accepting a little bad in order to save the “movement.” Some leave ACORN at this point but the ones who stay are trusted just a little more.
The Road from radical terrorists to professors and community organizers
With greater access comes greater understanding of the true subversive nature of ACORN. As stated last summer in my article “Liberal Fallout Zones“:
“Poverty is big business and a predicate for class warfare intended to perpetuate political power in the masters of that big business. In the current climate special interest groups are writing bills and influencing votes amid a huge liberal spending binge.”
That spending binge is more like a bender now because ACORN, recognizing the past mistakes of other radical groups like Weather Underground and Students for a Democratic Society decided the best way to gain power as was to pass unnoticed in mainstream America. Radicals like Frances Fox Piven and her husband Richard A. Cloward retreated into the world of Academia where they penned papers on Socialism peppered with Alinsky tactics and a new name:
On May 2, 1966, Columbia’s Professor of Social Work Richard A. Cloward, and his then research associate Frances Fox Piven, wrote a pivotal article in The Nation, articulating “a strategy to end poverty.”
In what became known as the Cloward-Piven strategy, the article argued a revolutionary approach to mobilizing the poor in the form of class warfare against capitalist forces viewed as exploiting labor and oppressing the poor.
David Horowitz, a long-time student of leftist political movements in the United States, characterized the Cloward-Piven strategy as seeking “to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.”
Cloward and Piven argued a “guaranteed annual income” should be established as an entitlement for the poor, a right the poor could assert and demand to be paid.”
Other radicals like ACORN founder Wade Rathke and former Project Vote executive director, Zach Polett formed organizations and began implementing their socialist agenda while using the poor and minority communities as a defense if anyone dared question their actions. According to its website, ACORN planted its seed in American politics long ago and continues to play an “insider’s game” to maintain it.
“Finally, ACORN® began playing the insiders’ game in American politics. Congressional lobbying is practiced by ACORN® staff. Leaders and members became a central part of the insiders’ games, too. Members elected to office or serving on APACs acquired experience and skill applying power from the inside of the political process. Instead of confronting opponents in actions (something ACORN® will never stop doing), members could trade and negotiate from inside positions of power. ACORN®’s work on the savings and loan bailout provided effective means of developing and applying power for low- and moderate- income people. ACORN® members won appointment to the Resolution Trust Corporation (RTC) to help determine the management of the billions of dollars of assets the government seized. The payoff to these activities came, and still comes, when substantial numbers of ACORN® members developed the ability to move inside the political sphere that has for so long been closed to low- and moderate-income people.”
Wade Rathke and Zach Polett learned the path to power quickly and utilized their influence to pass the 1996 National Voter Registration Act (the “Motor Voter” bill). Polett, seated below to the far left in a dark suit and tie, had officially brought the Arkansas based ACORN to Washington.
Interestingly, on the same page with their tales of insider dealing, ACORN discusses how the network of unions, non-profits and corporations were created for the express purpose of pushing ACORN’s socialist agenda.
“The national lobbying arm of ACORN® is only one example of the diversification within ACORN® that was basic to its success. The ACORN® Housing Corporation worked to create affordable housing in conjunction with banks and state and local government. The United Labor Unions, now Locals 100 and 880 of the Service Employees International Union, became labor organizing arms of ACORN® which organize people where they work. ACORN® Services, Inc. and the canvassing operations enhanced ACORN®’s ability to create the financial resources needed to grow. The Arkansas Institute for Social Justice became the means for developing leadership skills and political talents among the ACORN® members. What was once a relatively simple organization of community groups has became a diversified system of institutions capable of applying specialized skills to solving the kinds of problems ACORN® encounters in its work.”
Along came a socialist
In late 2006 the atmosphere in the office changed and it appeared that the senior staff were energized. Efforts to function as a real office were implemented. Project Vote began using a donor database instead of a box and attempts were made to reconcile the accounting records. In anticipation of what ACORN began calling a “once in a generation opportunity.” John Podesta from the Center for American Progress gave a speech called “Preparing for Power: The Next Cycle?” in December of that year.
After two years with ACORN I understood how they operated and took the close relationship with the Democrat party for granted. The relationship between Democrats and ACORN was that the party needed ACORN to retain their seats and ACORN needed them to pass their agenda items. ACORN’s belief that indeed, all politics is local, allowed them to place people strategically in positions that would allow run for higher office.
In 2007 when Zach Polett bragged about supervising Barack Obama and that “ACORN produces leaders,” his purpose was to energize the employees so that we would go out there and deliver. ACORN’s voter registration goals and budget were unmatched and the stakes were high.
When Obama’s campaign called the Project Vote offices in late 2007, I could barely contain my excitement as I relayed the information to my supervisors. After receiving the Obama 2007 2nd quarter donor list from Karyn Gillette, I had another look away moment. Were we violating FEC rules by targeting Obama’s maxed out donors? Did I really want Obama to win this way? Believing that the bigger goal was helping people by implementing the ACORN agenda, I put my doubts aside and worked on pulling donors from the list (which included ALL Obama donors, not just the bigger donors required to be reported to the Federal Elections Commission).
From October 2005 until 2008, I did fundraising work with ACORN and used political donor lists. All Democrat: Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Democratic National Committee. When I appeared as a guest on “The O’Reilly Factor” last year, I said that ACORN had served for years as an unofficial arm of the Democratic Party, but Bill O’Reilly didn’t discuss that with me. Ignoring it is exactly what the stealth socialists want.
I once asked Marcel Reid, former ACORN national board member and President of DC ACORN, how it was possible for ACORN to push its agenda and she replied “We never use the word Socialism.” ACORN’s appeal was to simply implement a Socialist agenda without ever saying the word. When Wade Rathke was interviewed by Megyn Kelly of Fox News, Kelly asked Rathke whether he would describe himself as a socialist, and Wade answered no. Kelly proceeded to point out that the ACORN People’s Platform sounded socialism. Rathke weakly tried to defend ACORN against the Socialist label by pretending the “share the wealth” philosophy was not in the ACORN Platform. You can watch the video here.
Eventually Rathke conceded that the share the wealth language was indeed present, but cited some language about the right to be rich and free.
The People’s Platform (or ACORN’s socialist wish list)
ACORN People’s Platform can be found here and it defines what rich and free meant, and it certainly is not capitalism!
“Our riches shall be the blooming of our communities, the bounty of a sure livelihood, the beauty of homes for our families with sickness driven from the door, the benefit of our taxes rather than their burden, and the best of our energy, land, and natural resources for all people.
“Our freedom is the force of democracy, not the farce of federal fat and personal profit. In our freedom, only the people shall rule. Corporations shall have their role; producing jobs, providing products, paying taxes. No more, no less. They shall obey our wishes, respond to our needs, serve our communities. Our country shall be the citizens’ wealth and our wealth shall build our country.
“Government shall have its role: public servant to our good, fast follower to our sure steps. No more, no less. Our government shall shout with the public voice and no longer to a private whisper. In our government, the common concerns shall be the collective cause.”
Marcel Reid’s explanation described “stealth socialism.” Aggressive tactics like ACORN’s protests and rallies were to gain the credibility that would allow the acceptance of a radical socialist agenda. While Reid was president of DC ACORN they proposed a plan to redistribute wealth in the Washington, DC metro area. This plan was proudly presented to the organization at the 2006 ACORN Year End, Year Beginning meeting in New Orleans. The excerpt below is from page 191 of the 2006 ACORN YEYB Annual Report (click to enlarge).
DC ACORN readily admits that “this proposal would essentially be a redistribution of wealth across the board,” but stealth socialism is so effective that even conservative watchdogs have been fooled by the ever changing names of the ACORN empire.
Obama’s agenda mirrors the ACORN People’s Platform as evidenced by a review of the healthcare and energy sections of the platform. On healthcare, the ACORN’s socialist people’s platform wants to
“require the federal government to provide for the health care needs of recent immigrants. ACORN’s position on Energy shows shades of Cap and Trade with goals like:
Prevent any single corporation or conglomerate from owning major interest in more than one of the following resources: oil, natural gas, nuclear energy, solar energy, and coal; or more than one of the following categories: source, refinery, shipping, or outlet.”
Pay no attention to the white liberal behind the curtain
The “Liberals” who elected Obama President may have a “tower of Babel” moment as gay rights, civil rights, immigration rights, environmental extremists, pro-choicers and all the other special interests that supported the Obama presidential campaign strive to push America further to the left and shed all inhibitions. As with ACORN itself, it seems impossible that the coalition that put Obama in the White House and gave Democrats huge majorities in both the Senate and the House of Representatives will continue to work smoothly together now that Obama and the Congressional Democrats are in control and America is learning what Obama really meant by the seductive-sounding “hope and change.” ACORN needed the cloak of stealth socialism to maintain its hold on the poor. ACORN’s image is synonymous with blacks and other minorities and the race card has become the last bastion of its “hope.”
During its greatest crisis, ACORN replaced its white leader with a black woman in order to hide behind Bertha Lewis’s skin color. What they didn’t want the public to see were the white liberal leaders behind the scenes who have been staying in Executive suites and partying in the mountains.
- ACORN Political Operations Retreat Novemeber 2007 (among the pictured are senior staff Patrick Winogrond, Jessica Angus, Nathan Henderson-James, Kimberly Olson, Amy Busefink and Johanna Sharrard)
Restoring the balance
Stealth socialism allowed ACORN to set the stage for Obama’s “regime” as they called it internally. Wade Rathke was willing to fall on his sword in 2008 to protect Obama, and to attain what nearly 40 years organizing the country towards socialism promised. After the embezzlement scandal, ACORN board members and staff assembled at meetings across the country and as insiders revealed, and I testified about, “fighting Capitalism” was listed as one of the things “great about ACORN.”
Obama has shown himself to be unrelenting in his quest to pass healthcare, take over American industries and weaken our national security. America can’t afford to be fooled by increasingly obvious tactics of the Far Left. It’s time for the great majority of Americans to turn the tables back on the Far Left by getting involved and organized and voting out incumbents who vote against the traditional American way. We need a morning in America, but it’s always darkest before the dawn.
Comments
There has to be a pony in there, somewhere.
The right has already killed ACORN with the innuendo and false charges such as you post above. True, they were good at shooting themselves in the foot, but they are dead, nevertheless.
I'm left to wonder if this is some kind of Memorial Day tribute to a bona fide civil rights organization.
The creature isn't dead. Its leaders are allied with, working with the Democratic National Party, the leaders in both houses of Congress and the man occupying 1600 Pennsylvania ave. The grand illusion has slipped. The Tea Partiers see it and our numbers are growing. We are also from all of the major parties in the United States, and we are unifying against those attempting to "fundamentally change" America. Yea, a socialists worst nightmare... G'mornin sunshine!
Your still in the dark Dianna. Obama will be reelected and the tea party has been revealed as racist slime, thanks to folks like you.
ACORN was a great organization that was smeared by some unethical right wing nuts, but they will rise again, in another form. Justice will prevail.
Are you still beating your racist birther, quo warranto, drum? Still a climate change denier? Still a pawn of the right wing fringe? How does it feel to be on the side of ignorance, racism and evil Dianna?
Thanks for keeping the light shining on these criminals Dianna. Maybe these USA haters should relocate to Kenya and start a micro financing project. George Obama would like to add a room addition to his hut and could use another loan from Shore Bank.
Olivia says:
"Are you still beating your racist birther, quo warranto, drum? Still a climate change denier? Still a pawn of the right wing fringe? How does it feel to be on the side of ignorance, racism and evil Dianna?"
How does the saying go, they are rubber, you are glue everything you say is thus stuck to you.
Diana is the true patriot and you Olivia are controlled by the banksters. Get a life you worthless troll.
Mitch, you're quite the spokesman for the far right. That was a brilliant response; so full of insight and deep "conservative" thinking. I'm suprised the tea-party doesn't promote you to national director. Your thoughtful, education-centered reponse reveals so much about the real aggregate in your so-called conservative agenda. Keep scaring them away amigo!
Just Saying,
Your obviously correct since the poll numbers for the liberals jumped right after I made the post. LMAO!!!!
If the liberals would just open their minds a bit and really listen and read what others are saying, then maybe they wouldn't always sound the same. In these responses I see many of the same tired buzz words, "racists, climate change denier,ignorance". A really good liberal rant should always include, homophobe, bigot, hypocrite, Christian right, knuckle dragger, and of course include a derogatory comment about Sarah Palin, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney, George Bush, and Haliburton.
gosh I'm so stupid; why couldn't I see it? It was right in front of me! The conservatives are the open minded welcoming type that embrace all for the betterment of the country. Deep in empathy and understanding. If only those darn liberals would do as the conservatives say the world would be a perfect place. Oh, to be so infallible.
Just Saying... I am glad I was able to help you achieve this epiphany.
By the way, did you know that today in the US only 42% of pay comes from non-government sources. Acorn would like to reduce that even further. Maybe now that you are enlightened you will strive to help change that to where millions more Americans will work in the private sector where the GDP is generated.
42% huh? - 42% of what pay? Is that gross dollars paid to employees. You're telling me that of all the money, in dollars, "earned" in the United States; 42% is earned in the private sector and 58% is earned in the public sector?
Yep... that is exactly what I am saying.
wow, you gotta give the source for information like that. That is almost incomprehendible.
It came from USA Today, they said that 41.9% of the nation's personal income came from private sector wages. Their source was the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The author of the article was Dennis Cauchon.
I see the problem is that groups like ACORN don't care to understand that this is unsustainable. Just ask the people in Greece.
Organized crime known by a harmless biological acronym and run by tyrants pretending to be advocates of social justice. Martin Luther King would turn over in his grave if shown creeps like ACORNers and their defenders who trivialize racism by flinging the term racist at every American not wanting a socialist America.
B52RN - you probably should go back check your facts as your presentation of them is incorrect.
Quoting from the USA Today article:
"Key shifts in income this year:
• Private wages. A record-low 41.9% of the nation's personal income came from private wages and salaries in the first quarter, down from 44.6% when the recession began in December 2007.
•Government benefits. Individuals got 17.9% of their income from government programs in the first quarter, up from 14.2% when the recession started. Programs for the elderly, the poor and the unemployed all grew in cost and importance. An additional 9.8% of personal income was paid as wages to government employees."
Also from the same article:
"Economist David Henderson of the conservative Hoover Institution says a shift from private wages to government benefits saps the economy of dynamism. "People are paid for being rather than for producing," he says."
As a greater percentage of workers become government employees the remainder must support an ever more costly public sector through more taxes. That in turn saps money from the economy that could be put to productive use.
Quoting from another comment: "The right has already killed ACORN with the innuendo and false charges such as you post above."
LOL. ACORN employees were caught on tape advising in favor of criminal activity. The far left would have you believe fantasies over your own sensory data.
"MonCrief's employment with ACORN began in October 2005. She was fired by ACORN in January 2008 for using a Project Vote credit card to pay for personal items.[5] " Wow she sounds like a credible source! Sounds like a grudge for getting fired. Not a single credible article about this woman that is not a teabagger or right wing site. Not a single article to any legitimacy to her story by non-biased journalists. All hogwash. Don't like social programs? Take your kids if you got em, out of public education!
@B52RN 42% all wages from private sector? Why don't you ask those private companies to stop outsourcing jobs then? Thank goodness the government offers employment to people. They don't outsource. (Except for the military to Halliburton, who in turn outsources to foreigners for less wages.)
h t t p : / / www. pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_595810.html
On cross-examination, Moncrief admitted that she had no personal knowledge of how Pennsylvania ACORN registered voters. (WOW, 3 years there and she is not even familiar with this process yet testified to their bad registration methods of voter cards = $$? )
Moncrief said she was fired because she put personal expenses on the organization's credit card. She said she repaid about half of the money. "I am really sorry," she said. "I was very sorry, and I was paying it back," she says, but "suddenly Acorn decided that . . . I had to go.(Yeah sorry she got caught, how much did she spend tht she only has paid half back? Oh she stopped when they decided to fire her for stealing $3000!!!!)
THis person and her story is completely discredited by her actions.
@Paul Williamson, you need to do followup... it was proven the idiot pimp guy and the girl severely edited that tape, and right after they left the office the guy called some authorities regarding what these two tools were saying they were gonna be up to. h t t p : / / nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/03/damaging_brooklyn_acorn_sting.html
Mole the troll, Just Saying,
I don't think that having only 42 percent of income coming from non-government is sustainable. Do you?
I think we got lots of organizations,(including the Obama administation and ACORN) that thinks it is a great idea to use taxpayer dollars and the federal government as a great big piggybank and sugar daddy and don't bother to worry about where the money is coming from.
Loved how Haliburton got slipped in there as one source of our problems.
again; you have it wrong, b52rn. 42% is a convenient misleading statistic that implies the balance of income comes from the gonernment. Which, it does not. Reading more deeply, in search of the truth, will reveal that there is income from investment, capital gains, interest income, pension (DB & DC, both) and several other sources. The figure you really need is the percentage of income from the U.S. government. Then of course to make a fair and balances case you would factor "out" essential service such as military, law enforcement, goverment operations and many others. This a much more difficult task to analyze cause and effects based on superficial and easily biased manipulations as presented in the article. Be aware of research and analysis where the conclusion is written before the facts are fairly acquired and presented. We obviously are in a debate with no rules where heavily biased interests are trying to sway readers with misinformation. Pretty wierd - and, its not working!
Sorry I am so dense. But I am of the opinion that goods and services are produced in the private sector and the government produces absolutely nothing. The aggregate income earned in the private sector would seem to me to be an indication of the amount of activity in the production of goods and services and the higher the number the better for our economic health.
Oh yeah, the Federal Government paid over 18% of all wages in the last 12 months, the highest percentage in history. Barry has made much progress in the road to Socialism.
All of this "socialist" bs talk is ridiculous! Dianna and all you wacko righties need to stop driving on our "socialist" roads, drinking from our "socialist" water supply systems, powering your neocon camps (homes) with "socialist" power, sending your kids to our "socialist" schools, and when your house catches fire, just put it out yourself - forget calling 911.
We should create a law that if you vote for a Republican they disable your ability to call 911 or the police. Just use your beloved guns and just start bust’in caps when some fool decides to break into your house to steal your precious possessions.
Mike, what an ignorant commie. The people who work in the private sector are the ones that pay for all those goodies. Barry and groups like Acorn are all about setting up entitlements so everyone can have all the same goods and services regardless if they actually earned any of it.
Remember, the government can't give anything to anybody without taking it away from someone else first.
Dear carpet bomber,
You have no point. Every society has strata. (that means is not everyone has the same socioeconomic standing). If you let the poor just sit there in poverty, they will come and take it from those who have it. The government simply prevents the anarchy and lawlessness. Is that what you want? Apparently so. All out civil war is your name, and you're a complete idiot to think anything else would be the outcome. Help your fellow countrymen and jump off a bridge or something.
Dear carpet bomber,
You have no point. Every society has strata. (that means is not everyone has the same socioeconomic standing). If you let the poor just sit there in poverty, they will come and take it from those who have it. The government simply prevents the anarchy and lawlessness. Is that what you want? Apparently so. All out civil war is your name, and you're a complete idiot to think anything else would be the outcome. Help your fellow countrymen and jump off a bridge or something.
Mike! Comrade! I like that word "strata". Shall I jump off a bridge or just report to the local death committee? I hope you and your other comrades can continue to work with our dear leader to secure the minds and hearts of all or our people. Sieg Heil!
18% - does that include military?
"the government can't give anything to anybody without taking it from somebody"? WT_ is that????? DO you listen to yourself before you talk??????
The "government" is the "people". Even the people you so "broad-brushly" disparage. Democratically represented; so, when anyone doesn't like it they can vote their heart, their mind or any combination they desire. It is obvious where you stand on Obama. But, if you, or any, right-wing or left-wing extremist try to claim some position of honor and values; forget it! You mislead and misrepresent with ignorance and half-truths. If you ever heard the phrase "bear false witness" you all should be ashamed for being willing participants to such bad behavior. You throw around words like socialist and communist to create concern, incite, inflame and falsely disparage someone simply beacuse you assert they are so "different" from you. Honesty has taken a backseat to spoiled "children" wanting their way. U all need 2 re-study Jesus' fundamentals 101
Saying... Here, I will type real slow in case you can't read real fast.... The Government Can't Give Anything to Anybody Without Taking It Away From Someone Else First.
Saying... The government pays out a record high of 18% of all wages. The would indeed include the military, they get wages just like everyone else who works to earn wages.
well .... with that "government" logic position I don't have a clue why government exists. I guess to "take" from itself, then, to give-back to itself. The most efficient government would then be a citezenry that takes the least and gives the most. Idealogically, a perfect system, but, the more diverse the citizenry: the more diverse the needs. In my mind; the more diverse the needs: the larger governmental requirements. Everybody wants something, often something different. Because she or he is a citizen, they have a stake and a claim for that they desire from their government. If a "nation" could control growth it might be able to control citizen "needs". But, that wouldn't be good. So now comes a "diverse" nation with a right that has "interest" in supposedly one "position" and a left that has the same. Neither cares to negotiate to any common "middle". Kinda like two "spoiled" children. Probably should just "cut the baby in half". Or, maybe it's just an ever evolving process.
Saying, well I guess we can't really understand each other because I don't believe the function of the government is to "take care of people". That is exactly what socialist groups like Acorn expect and they are willing to break any law or kill people in a disgusting quest to make that happen.
I hane not said and am not saying the government should tske care of the people. The government IS the people. The government is the priveledged as well as the down-trodden. We are "one". I don't know many conservatives that aren't at least to a degree "faith based". As a people "for the people" we have to do something for those who have nothing - its just part of the deal. It occurs to me the two "sides" aren't that far apart; they just seem to enjoy the fight. I don't think anyone in "power" is really suggesting that we (the people) provide for all the people. But, we have since day one, done just that. The "sweet spot" is trying to agree on "where to draw the line". But, thats a moving target; so it will forever change and evolve. No one is right and no one is wrong. Add to that the sheer numbers (population) and the challenge is staggering. What is it we (the people) don't need that we maybe have spoiled ourselves with. How much corruption can be eliminated on both the "sides".
While I am no fan of ACORN and feel fairly certain their original "mission" (whatever that is or was) has been derailed by their own doing. But, it occurs to me that they are just the antithesis of the greedy/corrupt corporations. Of course not all coporations or even the majority of corporations. But there are plenty of sins "on both sides". And, they have hurt the country, plenty. On the coporate side; the waste and greed is disgraceful. I know it; I live in it. I watch constantly how the public is bilked by coporate leaders and professional organizations. They charge the public for their opulent meetings, conferences, cars, boats; you name it. I work with people who unethically "write-off" and "hide" dinners, dollara and personal expenses. And I see who "picks up the tab". Believe me many know - its called "the cost of doing business". And its a joke to think any President cares to change that. Their in "it" chin deep. Would it not be our job to limit the corruption of both "sides"?
All that greed and corruption would not exist in the new People's Republic led by our Dear Leader Barry Obama. No fat cat CEO would be dining on expensive steaks while the single mother on the other side of town was ordering from the McDonald's dollar menu.
the quantification of "all that" provides the absurd stretch to avoid the reality that the corruption and self interest exists in both "worlds". That is what is so curious to me. Why each "side" is willing to live with its own "sins"; they demand the confession and repentance of the other. It seems you believe the world would be a better place if it would only see the sense of your postion. Yet, you offer no empathy for the other. Truth be told it appears to me that neither side is represnting the best interest of the individual; simply the self-interest of "their" collective position. You kid yourself and others if you don't think President Obama doesn't support the fat-cats you so stedfastly defend. It may not be the fat-cats you give a "pass" to but they're fat-cats none the less.
Well, we do seem to be making progress.
p.s. us "fat-cats" luv the dollar-menu
Well ..... Happy Independence Day to all; from your friend. Whom, essetially has mostly similare positions just at times has a somewhat different perspective. May this great nation continue to grow and evolve through the perseverence of citizens who can disagree but recall a common bond that unites us. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
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