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Northwest pilots licenses revoked; investigation into wayward flight continues

Both of the Northwest Airlines pilots who were out of radio communication with air traffic control for an hour and 15 minutes last week have had their licenses revoked by the Federal Aviation Administration effective immediately. Captain Timothy Cheney of Gig Harbor, Washington and First Office Richard Cole of Salem, Oregon have claimed that they weren’t asleep during at least 13 air traffic control and company dispatch attempts to contact them, but rather were engrossed in a new Delta Air Lines crew scheduling program on their laptops and didn’t hear the many attempts to contact them.

Northwest Airlines flight 188 over-flew its intended destination of Minneapolis/St. Paul by approximately 150 miles before realizing where they were. Fighter jets based in Madison, Wisconsin were being readied to intercept the flight were it determined that a terrorist incident or hijacking had taken place. After numerous unplanned turns requested by ATC, it was determined that the aircraft was not under duress and the flight made its decent to the Twin Cities.

This past Sunday the pilots were interview for more than five hours by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) investigators. While neither pilot had ever had an accident, incident or violation, their licenses were revoked for reckless and dangerous behavior at the controls of an airliner. It is against airline policy to nap or be using a personal laptop in the cockpit during a flight, so whichever scenario is the truth, the pilots didn’t have much of a fallback position.

According to the NTSB both pilots stated that there was a distraction in the cockpit during flight and they admitted per the October 16 Advisory “there was a concentrated period of discussion where they did not monitor the airplane or calls from ATC even though they both stated they heard conversation on the radio.” Neither pilot noticed messages sent from company dispatchers because they were in a discussion about the new flight crew scheduling system from new owner, Delta Air Lines.

Incredibly, neither pilot realized that the aircraft had flown beyond the intended Minneapolis/St. Paul destination airport until contacted by a flight attendant five minutes before the scheduled arrival time inquiring about when they were expecting to land. When they finally contacted air traffic control and were asked what the problem was, “just cockpit distraction” and “dealing with company issues” was their response.

Due to the cockpit voice recorder only having a 30-minute length, we may never know the truth about what transpired, but numerous industry experts and other pilots have found it hard to believe that the pilots were not asleep during the period of inactivity.

Former NTSB Chairman Jim Hall has been quoted as saying “It’s inexcusable. I feel sorry for the individuals involved, but this was certainly not an innocuous event – this was a significant breach of aviation safety and aviation security.” The incident was so serious that the White House was advised of what was transpiring just in case the event was indeed a potential terrorist attack in the offing.
 

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  • Billie 2 years ago
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    Will we ever know what really happened in that cockpit? The laptop story is less believable than "The dog ate my homework" one. Please! It's on a need-to-know basis and apparently we are not on the list.

  • Jennifer Baeta 2 years ago
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    “It’s inexcusable. I feel sorry for the individuals involved, but this was certainly not an innocuous event..." thats it, in a nut shell. It IS inexcusable.
    Billie- when I was in college, I had a final for an art history class, and I has six cats- The cats ate it! Licked it completely clean! No joke! That being said, in my opinion, The dog ate my homework would be MORE believeable than them saying they were on their laptops.

  • Ted Nelson 2 years ago
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    I feel sorry for the pilots and their families, but it was a major mistake and they need to deal with the repercussions.

  • nance carter 2 years ago
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    inexcusable is correct. flying is frightening enough to so many; we need pilots who are paying attention.

  • Jerry Chandler 2 years ago
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    It's sad for these guys - all those hours and they never hurt a passenger. That takes skill, and professionalism. What's tragic is that that lifetime of achievement is washed away by a stupid act. But that, sadly, is the way it's gotta be. This sends a message loud and clear to the rest of the industry that this simply can't be tolerated.

  • Redcoatbhf 2 years ago
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    It's about time they were fired. Disgraceful.

  • Brent in New Hampshire 2 years ago
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    These pilots were VERY experienced -- thousands of hours of flying time, many hundreds of landings. They don't "forget" that they're approaching an airport; there's a standard protocol, and professionals always know what to do and when. Even if one of them "forgot" for 78 minutes, two pilots wouldn't. If overshooting the airport was the only error, the "laptops" excuse might be believable, but no experts believe that explanation. They were also incommunicado, despite EIGHT attempts to reach them by radio and email with an alarm; missing even one would have been a serious breach. Only one thing makes sense to me--the men are gay, and they were getting better acquainted. They were concentrating, all right, but not on company policies. Their explanation completely breaks the bonds of credulity. No other explanation makes the slightest sense. Whatever the reality, they put a couple of hundred people at serious risk. They should never be allowed to fly as commercial pilots again, ever.

  • Joel Siegfried - San Diego Airport Examiner 2 years ago
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    To err is human, but this is off the charts. How can they have screwed up so badly. If they were upset with the new scheduling, that might explain it, but why not just wait until after you land to sort it out. I would love to know what really happened. Being asleep is the most logical explanation. Too bad they weren't served fish for dinner. They could claim food poisoning. Then some 14 year old kid in coach could become a hero and land the plane because he had practiced on Microsoft Flight Trainer!

  • Pauline 2 years ago
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    The recording time of 30 minutes is obviously not working. That seems to be an easy fix: record the whole flight on every flight. They do 24 hours at banks and stores, and surely airplanes are as important.

  • Ronna DeLoe - New England Landmarks Travel Examine 2 years ago
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    I can't wait to find out the end result....

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