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Article History Harford County (Map, News) - Harford County school board members would be selected by a new staggered election process under a plan supported by County Council members and state lawmakers.
Parents have pushed to change the selection process to an election from an unofficial Permanent Nominating Caucus in which community groups, parents and activists recommend a nominee to the governor for appointment.
“I maintain that the PNC never worked,” said County Councilman Richard Slutzky, a former teacher. “The PNC has been manipulated for the last 30 years.”
He said politicians and special-interest groups tried to get their favorite candidates elected by influencing PNC members.
Slutzky proposed that voters elect the board’s six members, one from each county district, to four-year terms.
Half the members would be elected when the U.S. president is elected, and the other half in Maryland gubernatorial election years, so the board isn’t starting over on issues every few years. Now, members serve five years, but are typically reappointed for five more, Slutzky said.
A group of board members yet to be determined would appoint the president under his plan.
The board president, who now serves one year, and members rotate into the position.
“We’re going to go through new board presidents every year now,” Slutzky said, “and that may be the most ecumenical process, but I’m looking for the best leaders.”
Slutzky’s plan received more support from council members than a proposed board in which most members would be elected, but some appointed.
Del. Barry Glassman, R-District 35A, had proposed such a blended board in the state legislature last year but the measure failed. No county in the state has a blended board.
“If we go with a blended board ... we’re just not going to get any traction,” said Del. Susan McComas, R-District 35B.
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Examiner Reader said:
You see, here precisely is the reason why Harford County's delegation to the General Assembly (are you reading, Dulaney-James? Reilly?) did such a huge disservice to the citizens of the county by failing to get a completely elected school board through the legislature. An elected board, beholden to the voters -- i.e., the parents -- of Harford County instead of to the governor or his hack political cronies, could have followed through on the disapprovals voiced by every significant review constituency and killed this thing in the bud. But no: Our educational elite will ram it through, and down not only our kids' throats, but their parents' as well, regardless of any objection. Makes me wonder how I survived a public school education in Harford County.
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Examiner Reader said:
To the reader 3 down from this one 1. get your facts correct. It was two air soft weapons 2. Both a First grader AND A Fourth Grader (brother's at that) not a fifth grader as you stated. 2. I just wonder if it would have been your child on that bus or in the class would you feel so lax. 3. What if the guns went off (yes, they were loaded) and hit the bus driver and the entire bus crashed into one of the homes, in a ditch or whatever, I'm sorry you have no business being a parent if you can write something like that! 4. And it wasn't a "toy" it is considered a WEAPON for a darn good reason. Look up the statistics before you go and shoot of your mouth!
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Examiner Reader said:
I was once a major part of this school. This doesn't sound like what once went on at this school. The administration of the past would have been more opened with the community. This is a community school. One of the county's best. Ms. Spence, it's time to hang it up. You are a poor leader!
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Examiner Reader said:
Is the pool of administrators and principals in Harford County really that shallow? That the principals would appear before the BOE and reiterate their support, state that test scores are up, and dropout rates are low is just one more example of the principals closing ranks to tow the company line. The survey results clearly state that the implementation of CSSRP had NOTHING to do with the improved scores. The principals also failed to address that since the implementation of CSSRP that AP and SAT scores have dropped. The only people who haven't drunk the kool-aid are the teachers, parents, and students.
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Examiner Reader said:
a toy gun. parents take a minute to realize that no one was hurt in this incident, it was a 5th grader with a toy gun.
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Examiner Reader said:
Wow, how is it WSJ parents received an "Alert Now" about ANOTHER Asthma attack within HOURS of a Code Orange Lock Down? What happened the two guns in school and on a bus doesn'that warant immediate notification! Where is the common sense of this Principle! Obviously, she has NONE! About 4 weeks ago there was another "Alert Now" for this same child for the first Asthma attack! That is one of the MANY reasons parents are so disgusted at the fact we were not notified of these weapons! Yes, there were TWO!! Both brothers. Then when parents directly asked Ms. Spence, Principle (so titled, not in actions), she totally DENIED any incident to parets in person at the school and through telephone calls to the school. This "administrator" must be held accountable for her actions! Spence needs to practice what she preachs in the school motto or better yet LEAVE, and let someone MORE qualified to do the job! We can't even feel SAFE to send our kids to this school! Where are our rights as parents
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Examiner Reader said:
Ok, I understand this was a toy gun, but don't toy guns sometimes look real. So why in the world would any Principal who has the responsibility to ensure the safety of our children ,deny this info to the parents and staff? What else has been denied to these parents at this school.So where do you go when you are denied info. from the one person who is responsible for your kids at school ? Can you say " Boundary Exception ".I would consider that if my kids went to that school.
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Examiner Reader said:
Why is there a need to keep this gun issue in our schools a secret.Don't us parents at William S. James elementary (Most of whom volunteer our time and energy for this Principal)earn the right to hear about things that may affect our childrens safety? Are we only notified when they need our money or help.Come on people,you have to work with the parents if you want a successful school environment for these kids and by the look of the test scores,You have not been doing much to improve that relationship.This is our future that we are talking about.So Yes ,you do need to inform us about every little petty detail(as you stated) to us concerned and dedicated parents.
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Examiner Reader said:
This is the MO of the HCPS. They will not solicit nor accept input from anyone but a few special interest groups. Take the Edhewood MS reform plan. This plan is doomed to fail, because there is no community input or support. The community (other than the special interest groups) were not afforded the opportunity to participate. If parents of the students are not involved this plan and all of the money targeted to improving this school will have been in vain. When will the educators learn?
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Examiner Reader said:
I heard from a middle schooler at Dumbarton, that there is a gang presence there! In Towson! The little monsters also brought in a gun and a knife and were involved in a fight in the cafeteria, only last week! Why have we not heard about this?
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Examiner Reader said:
A Principal has to take ownership over the concerns of her students and their parents. This Principal has to earn the respect of a community by speaking openly to all concerned here. Denial will only fester an open wound.
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Examiner Reader said:
Goodway to get killed by a cop, Those guns look real. I saw one that looked just like my Glock, if you put both side by side you would not be able to tell the apart. Parents need to monitor what their kids are taking to school. Kids don't have rights in your house, dump their bags and search their rooms. Parents now these days are out of touch with their childern, thay don't know what their kids are doing, who their hanging with or whats in thier rooms. Wake up parents take control of your kids and stop letting them control you. BE PRO-ACTIVE NOT RE-ACTIVE
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Examiner Reader said:
I agree 110% with Nikki Gorski & Mr. Lloyd. We as parents should have been notified about this issue. What are we teaching our children.... HIDE THINGS FROM OUR PARENTS..... come on Mrs. Spence..... what if this "TOY GUN" went off in school or on the bus and hit a kid in the eye or the bus driver... how then would we have been notified??? Shame on you MRS. SPENCE. We are notified when our kids hair is not properly cut but, not when "TOY GUNS" or brought to school....The school sure has changed and so have the parents attitudes and I have been a parent there for sometime now.....
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Examiner Reader said:
I do feel that something needs to be done about this gun issue ,so that the school and the school board can handle this situation if it should happen again in the future. William S. James has a motto for the school that every student says every morning during announcements.It is "that everyone is responsible for their own actions". I wish Ms. Spence would take some of her own advice. Practice what you preach.
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Examiner Reader said:
I checked with state property records. The homeowner purchased the property in October 2005. The school was there first. Don't move next to a high school if you don't want the noise. What next, ask them to give up Friday night football games?
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Examiner Reader said:
What about the junior and seniors, why should I as a parent have to go out and spend money on clothes that they will only where for part of the year. If you are going to implement this I think the older classmen should be exempt for the first two years. Or let the school board send home a check with each student to supply the uniforms. I buy my child clothes he can wear to school and also outside of school, I dont have the money for multiple warobes.
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Examiner Reader said:
That's right. Teachers and parents both got survey forms - one as an employee and one (or more) as a parent that came home with their child(ren). How can you trust the results of such a "survey?" Now there's a good story!
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Examiner Reader said:
Teachers who are parents got two votes in favor of uniforms. We are parents of two kids and are against uniforms. We think the schools should simply enforce the current dress code insted of ignoring it, and let the kids choose their attire.
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Examiner Reader said:
FINALLY a public school system with some common sense. Now, show some guts, make uniforms mandatory through high school, and implement it next September. White or blue shirts, gray slacks/skirts, keep it simple.
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Examiner Reader said:
I would much rather have these kids on the band field doing something good like learning how to play music and work together then roaming the streets of my neighborhood, my goodness the person who lodged this complaint really needs to sit down and enjoy the music. You can always sell your house and move, leave the kids alone
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Examiner Reader said:
I would be interested in knowing whether the house/owner of the house or the school was there first. If the owner knowingly bought next to a school, noise should be expected. I know a school band can be loud, but how close is the house to the practice area? Is the homeowner simply complaining because it's not absolutely quiet? Or is there a real gripe? Perhaps the school could accommodate an earlier end to the noise, like 8pm instead of 9pm.
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Examiner Reader said:
DUH - if you live near a school, there will be, I absolutely promise, be noise. The taxpayers should not foot the bill for the trees, the homeowner is free to do that if he so desires. I have chosen to live next door and down the street from 2 schools over a 10 year period. The advantages outweighed the noise.
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Examiner Reader said:
I take exception to the parent stating that Harford Tech is an elitist school. The kids attending Harford Tech had to apply for the school, maintain good grades throughout middle school, and be interviewed prior to being accepted into the school. There are plenty of kids from Belair and Fallston that also attend Tech. It has nothing to do with what school they previously attended because these kids were good students to begin with so matter what school they attended they would be peforming well. Its just like the math academy at Aberdeen, the kids have to apply and are accepted so is the math academy also an elitist school
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Examiner Reader said:
Its a shame that parents do not support the teachers and adminstators of our schools. I find it hard to believe that a teacher would want to see any student fail its a reflects on them as teachers. The problem is some kids just dont care and should not be in the school to begin with. When I went to school the bullies and the ones that were always in trouble had to deal with consequences for thier actions, yes some were even expelled. We are teaching the kids that you can not do what is expected and there is no consequence at all, you can disrepect authority and not have a consequence, this will carry over into adulthood and we will continue the cycle of failure. School is for learning first and foremost. If parents would insist thier child do thier best and be respectful to teachers and other students these problems would go away. I still say the problem starts at home and we are dumping the problem on the schools to make our children learn proper behavior. Teachers are there to teach
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Examiner Reader said:
The problem is not more money, social conditions, or poor teachers. The problem is the student, the parents, and a black culture that discourages educational excellence. It is a huge positive if banning performing students from extra curricular activities gets their attention. They need to understand that failing grades have bad consequences both in school and in life.
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Examiner Reader said:
While I have some agreement with the last reader I do not believe that this issue is that simple. History shows again and again that higher level academics suffer when distractions abound. Disruptive behavior and lack of "social conformity" shift resources from academics to dealing with these distractions. In my belief kids today don't respect authority because our educators no long HAVE authority. Our rules have shifted to favor the disruptors and not the educators. Frequently when behavioral issues are brought to a student's parent(s) we find the parent(s) defending the child vs. the educator. We find that removing students for chronic violations has become difficult if not impossible and that the standard for accepable behavior deteriorates each passing year. I further believe that the diminishing percentage of stable 2 parent households is the greatest driver of these trends. I cannot site study results to prove my beliefs, but I'll looking at both school environs would offer pr
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Examiner Reader said:
I would suggest that students in schools with high African American populations do not get the same focus on education that students in affluent schools do. The per pupil expenditure at county schools are all the same but is the quality of the teaching force being hired the same? Do blue chip new/experienced teachers want to go to low performing schools? Do teachers within the system seek to leave high performing schools to go to low performing ones? Does the teachers union anywhere encourage teacher stability at low performing schools? Do schools with high African American populations worry about cell phones, hats and pants hanging down more or is their focus purely academic? Clearly when behavior and dress and social conformity are the priority does academics take a back seat? Clearly the question for all parents is does your child's school prepare them more for Yale(clear focus on higher level academics) or Jail (clear focus on social conformity/behavior change). Oh my where to liv
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Examiner Reader said:
my only problem with the whole uniform thing is if you have a child in 10th or 11th grade I dont want to spend the money on something he or she will never wear outside of school. If you dont have the money for the uniforms who is going ot pay for them, I know it seems like a dumb question but some of us are struggling just to get food on the table. Some suggestions may help
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Examiner Reader said:
Part of the problem with some of these schools is the kids just dont respect authority and where do they learn respect. Its at home, why should teachers have to spend most of the class requesting the kids to be quiet and listen, only to be talked back to, eventually having to be removed from the class. I am a parent who has gone to the schools to sit in on class only to hear students tell a teacher and I quote "you aint my daddy" when asked to remove a winter coat, which by the way they are not allowed to wear in class. What is that, you have girls going to other girls houses to beat her up because of a boy, what is that? Parents its time to wake up and realize teachers are not there to teach your childern respect or morals or even the want to learn, this comes from the home and its time you did your part. Teachers deserve respect and are not your daytime babysitters to keep your kids off the streets. HOw are these kids ever going to suceed in the job market or in just living.
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Examiner Reader said:
Who then will this selected board of education listen to-the parents (tax payers) or the students?
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harford schools are great said:
I just moved to Harford county in March.I think harford county have execellent schools and teachers.One thing my wife and I noticed is how much these teachers really care for our childred.We have childred at all levels.Even though we wish we'd never purchased a home in Edgewood, we have no complaints about the schools.
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Examiner Reader said:
I believe school uniforms are a good way to help students see school as preparation for their adult lives. It's a "dress rehearsal" in a sense, so uniforms are the costumes. School uniforms do not have to be boring or ugly! Students should take part in planning and designing their school uniform, with guidelines set by parents and schools. This whole process will be a good introduction to the world of work. Go for it!!
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Examiner Reader said:
If parents are paying attention this the issue of school uniforms, there is no factual/scientific fact that school uniforms cures the social ills plaguing most of our urban school districts. Also there are some districts that have abandoned the idea of school uniforms because of Constitution violation etc. Children are disciplined disproportionately if they are made to wear school uniforms and parental rights are diminished. Read Dr. David Brunsma studies (he has done a 10 year study on school uniform).
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John said:
The Examiner apparently failed statistics. Predominantly black means that the overwhelming population of the school would be black; like say 85%. Of these three schools, the most one can say is that the populations are about half black and white. If one didn't know better, one would suspect the Examiner is trying to stir up a problem where one doesn't now exist.
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RayRay said:
People continue to say that African American children a failing at a yhigher rate. Question, what are the parents doing to ensure that their chjildren a receiving a quality education. If you survey the parents most will probably not have a clue as to what their children are doing. Some of the problems maybe economics but if oparents care they will ensure that their children are receiving aquality education and if they are failing then they should get off their butts and visiti the school to find out what they can do to assist. People fail to remember that if the parents are not involved then you will have another sorry buch of folks going into main stream society.
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Examiner eader said:
We keep looking for excuses. The fact of the matter is, our kids are in school to get an education. They have every opportunity to excel in each of their classes. If they need help, there is coach class, tutoring, and the buddy system that they can use to help them. The average practice last 2-3 hours, so the students don't get home until the evening. They have dinner, do their homework, and it's time for bed. This doesn't give the average student ample time to prepare for things like quizes and tests. Extra curricular activities should be treated as a reward for maintaining passing grades in all of their classes. Some will disagree with me. My son goes to a school in Baltimore City, and I believe they are allowed to fail 1 class. If my son fails a class, I will not permit him to participate in any sport. When the grades get back to the passing level, we try again. The parents must monitor their childs progress. This will help keep them on the right track.
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Examiner Reader said:
It all lies with the parents of these kids. Its that simple. You can,t just keep throwing money at it.
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Say What said:
The students in these schools would be really mad if they could read this article.
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HarfordNow.com said:
These statistics are just sad. What can be done differently in the Route 40 schools to get the grades up?
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Examiner Reader said:
and these are the very schools to educate the future workforce for Aberdeen Proving Ground. All ive heard is how great the schools were and that moving to Maryland would be no impact on a child's education. Hmm more lies perhaps?
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Examiner Reader said:
These schools have been on the Not Meeting Satisfactory Academic Progress for far too long. These schools also serve the area(s) where we are experiencing crime and violence. What are those elected and selected representatives plan to improve this situation. We have got to do something different- because what we are currently doing IS NOT WORKING.
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Examiner Reader said:
I agree with County Councilman Richard Slutzky's plan. It is simple, fair and equitable. Something that is often lost in harford County Politics. Maybe we can find out if there was a proposal by the Corps of Engineers to build Edgewood HS for the same cost of building Aberdeen HS. And if there was an offer, why was it not accepted? Just keeping it simple.
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Examiner Reader said:
I wonder what Lacey is complaining about. Harford Tech's facilities aren't the best. Aberdeen just got a new school that may be overcrowded, but in better working order. Our facilities are from the 1970's and we have to use H.C.C.'s track and field. We don't even have any decent fields to play on. Just keep talking and putting the blame on us Lacey that'll help your cause. When will Harford County do something for Tech? Oh wait. They're turning each school into a magnet school giving each one of our programs. That means there's no use for Harford Tech except as a population controlled school. Great, we're being demoted to the ranks of when we first opened as Harford Vo-Tech. The only reason why we get more attention than Aberdeen is because our students are making do with what they have and we're being noticed for it. Read the article about our track and field team.
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