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WASHINGTON (Map, News) - In a speech in Dallas in the spring of 2007, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, a former CIA director, provided a glimpse into the Clinton years. "By the mid-1990s, recruitment of new case officers at CIA had hit a historic low, and the agency's funding was a prime target for budget-cutters," he said. "Indeed, within three years of my retirement in 1993, CIA's clandestine service had been cut by 30 percent - just when Osama bin Laden was gearing up his war on the United States."
But a more devastating criticism came that spring from Clinton's own CIA director. In his memoir, George Tenet wrote, "The fact is that by the mid-to-late 1990s American intelligence was in Chapter 11, and neither Congress nor the executive branch did much about it."
All this history came crashing down on the CIA's Baghdad station during the Iraq war.
Few Baghdad officers spoke Arabic. Despite al Qaeda's rise in the 1990s as a terror group with global reach, the CIA had not emphasized Arabic language skills.
And contrary to its image, the CIA was not much attracted to danger. As violence in Iraq mounted, CIA officers rarely left their protected station in the heavily secured Green Zone of Baghdad. When they did leave, they were accompanied by former special operations personnel as bodyguards. It was no surprise that the CIA failed to penetrate the insurgent organizations in Iraq.
Officers were heard complaining about their assignment to Iraq and about "Bush's war." They wanted out, despite the 25 percent increase in pay they received when serving in Baghdad. Few stayed more than six months. The station's institutional memory remained low. Army general George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, complained that CIA analytical reports were superficial, and that topics raised in the reports were not pursued.
There were some successes, however. The CIA was able to open six bases scattered around Iraq. Some pushed the military to kill Muqtada al-Sadr before the radical sheikh became too powerful. The military command refused, and al-Sadr went on to lead a deadly anti-U.S.revolt in 2006.
By 2005, the lousy intelligence collection in Iraq was the talk of the military. At a conference that fall in Tampa, home to U.S. Special Operations Command, officers serving in Iraq said the CIA often could not pinpoint the enemy. It gave special-ops teams a neighborhood when they needed an exact address.
That year, Army colonel Derek Harvey decided to explain the problem in a paper for a service publication. Harvey is considered one of the military's leading experts on Iraq and its complex insurgency. He was an Iraq specialist at the Defense Intelligence Agency, then became an advisor to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
He would ultimately accompany General David Petraeus to Iraq to brief him on the enemy. Anything Harvey wrote in 2005, in the Iraq war's third year, would surely get Washington's attention, especially that of members of Congress who were souring on the war and could not understand why the intelligence community could not locate top targets.
But Petraeus, then commander of the U.S. Combined Arms Center at Fort Leavenworth, read Harvey's article and told him not to publish it. Too damning, the general said.
"Even after more than three years of conflict, we have yet to organize our intelligence assets efficiently and use our intelligence capability to best advantage," Harvey wrote. "The non-military national intelligence - FBI, Treasury, DIA, and CIA all-source efforts - are not doing enough to identify the networks that are moving foreign fighters/suicide bombers to Iraq, nor have they adequately identified the specific components of the insurgent networks within and external to Iraq, including key nodes, leadership, facilitators, bomb-makers, and financial support systems."
Among Harvey's other criticisms:
¯ "Unfortunately, Iraq is not the number-one priority for DIA and CIA, and has not been given priority resources."
¯ "Iraq for our adversaries is the central theater of confrontation with the West and its point of maximum effort, as is evidenced by the wide variety of foreign fighter recruits showing up among the insurgent forces. ... To effectively counter this effort requires an intelligence structure that is at least as robust, flexible, rapid,and aggressive as the enemy. ... Currently, the architecture has not been developed and adequate resources have not been provided."
¯ "A primary indicator of coalition deficiencies in intelligence assets and capabilities is starkly evident in the fact that tons of Iraqi Ba'ath Party documents, including intelligence service and terrorist liaison data from the previous regime, remain untranslated and unexploited. It is highly likely that these documents contain a veritable set of Rosetta Stones for understanding the key relationships of the current largely Sunni-driven insurgency."
¯ "We do not currently have a national-level 'center of excellence' that provides specific operational and strategic analytical focus on the insurgency leadership, organization, financing, and tactics (including IEDs), as well as comprehensive mapping of networked relations to global terrorist organizations."
A year after Harvey wrote his unpublished paper, his complaints were reinforced by the Iraq Study Group, a bipartisan panel appointed to give President Bush options on the deteriorating war in Iraq. In December 2006, the group, led by former secretary of state James Baker and former congressman Lee Hamilton, issued a blistering criticism of CIA and DIA work in Iraq. In essence, it sided not only with Harvey, but also with Porter Goss's House Intelligence Committee assessment of a troubled clandestine service.
"Our government still does not understand very well either the insurgency in Iraq or the role of the militias," the commission found. Intelligence agencies "are not doing enough to map the insurgency, dissect it, and understand it on a national and provincial level. The analytic community's knowledge of the organization, leadership, financing and operations of militias, as well as their relationship to government security forces, also falls far short of what policymakers need to know."
I asked Congressman Pete Hoekstra about intelligence shortfalls in Iraq. He said, "When I come back from Iraq, or even a briefing here, you learn how tough intelligence is. I don't walk out of there believing that I've got a crystal-clear picture of what the insurgency is, what the scope of it is, what the magnitude is, what the capabilities are. How much is international? How much is external? How much is al Qaeda? How much is Iranian? How much is Syrian? I walk out with lots of unanswered questions."
Yet Hoekstra is sympathetic, knowing how difficult it is to do anything in Iraq, much less walk out of the Green Zone and develop sources who can penetrate al Qaeda. He said the intelligence community was being held to an impossible standard of providing information "as clear as two plus two is four."
"Sometimes I sense that policymakers believe if they get perfect information from intelligence, it gives them the answer as to what to do," Hoekstra said. "That is not going to happen."
ABOUT "SABOTAGE": The articles in this series are drawn from “Sabotage,” a book appearing this week from Regnery Publishing. Author Rowan Scarborough, The Examiner’s national security correspondent, tells the story of a CIA bureaucracy that badly damaged the Bush administration with leaks, false allegations and sheer incompetency. He interviewed scores of intelligence and defense sources to paint a picture of an agency that fell into disarray under former President Bill Clinton and that is still rebuilding in the sixth year of the War on Terror. Scarborough is author of a previous book, “Rumsfeld’s War,” also published by Regnery.
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Examiner Reader said:
Surely, the ACLU will sue Donald Rumsfeld for violating the rights of that poor fellow.
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Examiner Reader said:
Rumsfeld had to go "he was too competent" Gonzalez has to go "he is too incompetent" but madeleini albright and janet reno were just wonderful.
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Hootyswach said:
This was definately not writen by the DoD. Why would someone write about methods that we may be using to hunt down terrorist. It is already difficult enough to track these guys down without books and articles like these. No matter how you look at it, this is treason. You are telling the enemy potential trade secrets on who, what, when, where and how. It's disgusting how books and articles like these are published and get our service men/women killed. It is no wonder, that these conflicts (Afghanstan & Iraq) have lasted as long as they have...No one can keep their mouths shut! I would like to think that authors take into consideration the damage they may be causing with the material they write. Doesn't seem like the case here...Does it? In the long run, everyone is accountable for the security of this nation. Do not be the one who blows it!
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Examiner Reader said:
We don't have enough covert military operations running and we are pacifying the liberal socialists here at home. This is why we will fail our mission.
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Joe said:
Joseph Goebbels would be proud of this book. Pat Fitzgerald is a REPUBLICAN prosecutor doing his duty to bring these snakes to justice...which will be impossible, 'cuz our Dear Leader has an infinite supply of "get out of jail free" cards. Our founding fathers would cry, not weep, if they knew what was happening to their great experiment. Amazing: an administration so evil that I actually feel sympathy for the CIA.
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Examiner Reader said:
Nice piece written by the DoD. After all, where would this have come from, some embedded FOX 'journalist'? This is what they call blowback. It's when they put out feel-good pieces to either draw away from more important things (like the current coup Bush is leading right now against the American people) or to help lubricate some other policy. Having read the comments already, I can see there will be a lot of bitter-enders holding up the ideas of this failed administration as somehow 'inspired'.
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Uncle Samchez said:
Go ahead, read my day!
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Examiner Reader said:
We need to be more creative with collecting intel like this, so we relegate the terrorists, like Bin Laden and al zawahir to cave dwellers for the rest of their lives or even better we find them.
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Examiner Reader said:
It is not surprising that this country still has people of this caliber in the military. They not only protect this country, but in essence, the world when called upon to do so. It is so sad that the mainstream media does not, or will not, report these victories when the occur. The mainstream media will only report what they perceive as supporting their pre-determined outcome.
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Examiner Reader said:
The Democrats considered the CIA to be the root of all evil in the universe 30 years ago. So, they gutted the agency, and filled it with liberal water carriers like Valerie Plame.
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Examiner Reader said:
You know, I think it's really cool to find out how "spooks" do their jobs protecting us. I would be willing to sacrifice my interest, though, in having the bad guys figure this stuff out themselves and I would gladly wait 10 or 20 years to see if I was right. It's getting to the point where target coordinates will be published in the daily newspaper the day before the missiles are launched. Geez! Freedom of the press is a Constitutional Guarantee but think about the mission instead of being the first to publish. No wonder Bush is reviled for incompetence. The press telegraphs every military move.
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Examiner Reader said:
Wow, you don't have to be much of a special ops scholar to know that it's Special Air Service, not 'Secret Air Service' as the author labels them.
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Examiner Reader said:
911=inside job
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Examiner Reader said:
Thank God they are reading email originating from free wireless hotspots.
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Examiner Reader said:
u paid by FOX?
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Examiner Reader said:
Thanks for warning the enemy.
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Brian Konash said:
Did Rowan Scarborough get the memo that his hated CIA "careerists" were correct in their assessment that Iraq had no WMD, and was not a material supporter of Al Qaeda? Thanks to the 2004 911 commission report, available online for free, we know the breathless agitprop in the lead-up to the war in Iraq was bogus. This regurgitated book of discredited lies belongs on the dust heap, along with the rest of the neo-con playbook from 2003.
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Examiner Reader said:
Such fatalist comments (below)... Not surprising from such a group that cannot credit/compliment anything good done by Rumsfield, military or the U.S. How predictable. There are too many facts presented in this article from "Sabatoge" to just be so dismissive. I look forward to getting a copy and reading it for myself. Goodness knows we need something to balance out the incessant squawking of such liberal parrots who want the U.S. to abandon Iraq.
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US Marine said:
Examiner Reader -- That's exactly how people look after huge bombs hit their house. A person looking like that dies from the blast -- not shrapnel. Overpressure of the air shears organs and destroys the body's capillary system by making it swell after the compression from the blast -- like how an eye swells and turns 'black' after a punch. That explains why Zarqawi was still alive 15 minutes after the bombs when the special forces rolled up. Whoever wrote the military blog about 'pink mist' is probably not an infantry Marine or Soldier, so he's no more qualified than anyone else. I, like many others, have seen these effects firsthand.
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Examiner Reader said:
What baloney! The man shown killed was not the real Zarqawi, who was previously reported killed. (see "Iraq militants claim al-Zarqawi is dead"; AP 3/4/2004). The phony shown here does not match the FBI Most Wanted picture of the man, and this man pictured could not have had "two 1,000 pound bombs" dropped on him, as claimed, which as one military blog stated, "would have turned him into pink vapor", instead of looking like he was merely in a street fight at best. This book is more propaganda, from a propagandist/reporter who used to work for the Washington Times (a Rev. Moon paper) for conservative propaganda purposes, all a pack of continued lies. This book is just more propaganda and tries to glorify Rumsfeld, something the military officers will not even do.
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Examiner Reader said:
Wow. Anyone who would agree to air this nonsense clearly wasn't involved in the discussions at the time. The CIA was upset with Feith's and Wolfowitz's teams' analyses not because of "turf wars" but because Feith, Wolfowitz, et. al. are policy guys and NOT INTELLIGENCE ANALYSTS. Why is this so difficult to understand? Feith and crew were pushing conclusions that said there were operational links between Saddam and al-Qa'ida, which simply WAS NOT TRUE. CIA knew this wasn't true, which was why they "blew a gasket" when they realized Feith and crew were INTENTIONALLY going around behind their backs and briefing this nonsense to the White House in order to provide a justification for war.
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Michael Miller said:
Gotta wonder why it is that rePIGlicans are backing this nonsense story even though the CIA got it right, all the WMD warnings were sourced from Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress and NOT to be trusted, and yet backing Dougie Feith's Office of Special plans that got the entire story WRONG?
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Examiner Reader said:
Too many liberal nutcases at CIA. Look at Ray McGovern and Larry Johnson who were there and now run around with the revolutionary Communist Party front groups World Can't Wait and Bush Commission. Did anyone read Valirie Plame's email recommending hubby John Wilson for that Niger trip? It's written in "Gag Me With A Spoon, Whatever" Valley Girl speak. And she's leading the Langley charge to find and control WMDs. In that case Gag Me With a Spoon....whatever. And don't forget, Larry Johnson's OpEd two months before 9/11 that the terrorist threat is overblown.
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Examiner Reader said:
What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.
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Examiner Reader said:
Like most people, some of the writers in this column vastly oversimplify the true nature and status of Federal agencies in Washington D.C. And they like to express themselves like people watching a football game, commenting like: "That guy never makes a touch down, etc.). You have thousands of government employees who spend their lives working constantly and intelligently, many neglecting their own lives, in the process. Yes there are those who act like obstructors when urgent matters need to be dealt with, but there are many others who are facilitators who can speed up the process of getting things done. It often helps to know the right phone numbers and have friendly voices at the other end. This is nothing new. Watch any movie about Pearl Harbor, and you'll see what I mean: "Yeah, I see those planes coming in. I've been watching it on my radar for some time. Nuthin' to worry about, mac. That's just some squadrons coming in from the Mainland. Hope they bring some goodies!
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Michael Miller said:
What is this so called newspaper doing printing unsourced diatribes by rightwing propaganda publisher Regnery? Is there not enough ACTUAL news?
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Jim Rockford said:
The CIA blew it and they knew they blew it: one of their own had written "The Declining Terrorist Threat" as an op-ed a few months before 9/11 where they said terrorism as a threat was overblown. Bottom line a Valerie Plame (trophy wife who used marriage to a wealthy-connected dilettante diplomat) or Wilson is useless against men like Osama. The elites in the CIA and elsewhere (Media, business, Gov't/Dem circles) would rather ordinary people die in terrorist attacks than share power. They call it "the cost of doing business" in the global economy.
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Don Meaker said:
Saddam lied to Al Queda, misrepresenting his stockpiles of WMD. He lied to his generals misrepresenting his stockpiles of WMD. He lied to the UN, misrepresenting his stockpiles of WMD. Where were the CIA, and the DIA supposed to get truth? We were dealing with a mass murderer, and someone is suprised that the darn fellow fibbed to make himself look more fierce to his internal enemies, more useful as and ally to Al Queda, and innocent as a lamb to the UN. Are we suprised?
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Examiner Reader said:
The Pentagon has worked for 20 years to develop Joint mentality, and to some extent, has succeded. Sure, the Marines will always claim more than their share of headlines. Sure the AF will always claim more than their share of funding. Sure the Navy will always claim more than their share of command billets. Sure the Army will always do more than their share of fighing. Given that, most brokers have a basic honesty. Now if only the CIA and the State Department would sign up in the effort to protect and serve the US, we could shut the terrorist/pirates down with little trouble. Until Langley and Foggy Bottom are personally threatened, that will not happen. That is the nature in their recruitment process.
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Anil Petra said:
Note the insidious use of the word "however" in the lede, a nonsequitor and false juxtaposition. Hamilton didn't say he does not support Maliki. He said, he didn't think his government could defend Iraq *today*. Bush hasn't said he believes the Maliki government is ready fully to "stand up" either. Non-story.
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Jack is Back! said:
It fits. Look at the Plame/Wilson business. And the lady (can't remember her name) caught leaking G2 [and she turns out to be an entrenched Democrat from Clinton years]. Too assume that the CIA is somehow sacrasant is naive. They are one of the reasons we now have the super-agency layer above. Name one thing they have got right in the last 25 years? They got the Soviets wrong, the WMD wrong and probably getting Iran and Nork wrong too but for other avenues of intelligence being developed.
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Examiner Reader said:
Dougie Feith and co. gave us the Uranium and 500 tons of VGX lies. So who shall we believe now? The professionals or the professional liars?
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Mark Eichenlaub, www.regimeofterror.com said:
Why is it that we had to wait for you to write this book and noone else from the media had the decency to get this guys side of the story. Getting only the other side of the story on all this is really getting old.
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Examiner Reader said:
In my opinion, these guys at the Pentagon were a little naive about how the CIA people would react to, what amounted to second-guessing CIA conclusions, trying to show that th CIA conclusions were faulty. Not only that! they also wanted the CIA's own files to criticize them with. It would seem natural that the CIA would be tempted to say OK guys, you want to do a "one-up" on us---do your own work! We worked hard to get everything we have, and we feel that we have arrived at reasonable conclusions! You want to run by us any questions you have--fine. Just don't go sabatoging the information that we provide, to those who use it, to make life and death decisions! In conclusion, I believe that the CIA was operating reasonably. That doesn't mean that everything they had, and everything they believed, would turn out to be correct. But that depends on history that is yet to be written.
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