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Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents

Jul 12, 2007 6:13 AM (509 days ago) by Dan Genz, The Examiner
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A crowd gathers inside the McCoart Administration Building Tuesday to view the Prince William County Board of Supervisors’ proceedings.
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A crowd gathers inside the McCoart Administration Building Tuesday to view the Prince William County Board of Supervisors’ proceedings.
Prince William County (Map, News) - Prince William County residents, legal and illegal, should prepare to be counted. A controversial resolution passed unanimously by the Prince William board Tuesday clears the way for the development of a database showing who is a legal resident and entitled to use county programs and who is unable to prove legal status.

The goal is to have one comprehensive file so that once someone is qualified to use the county library, their information will be available if they visit a recreation center or discard rubbish at the landfill.

“It’s going to be an invaluable tool because finally we’ll be able to get some idea of what the illegal immigration population is and what it’s costing us,” said Supervisor John Stirrup, the resolution’s author.

The resolution does not require the database be created, saying instead that county personnel cannot be prohibited from gathering and storing information on the “lawful or unlawful” status of any individual, except when banned by federal or state laws.

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In a county of more than 370,000 people, County Executive Craig Gerhart told the board, a computerized system would probably be necessary to allow a wide array of county agencies to instantly verify someone’s legal status. The county still has to decide what services will be denied and what methods of identification will be used to establish legal residency.

Supporters said the measure will allow the county to save millions of dollars in services provided to illegal immigrants, while opponents warned it would sacrifice privacy concerns and risk ethnic profiling to make a statement against illegal immigration.

“The idea of creating a database with everyone’s name in it and determinations about who is documented and who is undocumented runs against our fundamental notions of privacy,” said Kent Willis, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia.

But Stirrup said people are used to producing IDs when they write a check and would do the same for county services.

“They don’t mind showing identification or being included in a database if it will stem the growth of illegal immigration,” Stirrup said.

Gerhart said the county staff will include an update on the computer system at a board session on illegal immigration policy in less than 90 days.

dgenz@dcexaminer.com

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10:37 AM MST on Thu., Mar. 6, 2008 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
If you are legal immigrant, you have nothing to be afraid. In Maryland, they are very happy to increase income tax and property tax to welcome illegal immigrants rejected by Virginia. Hurry, Hurry go to Maryland NOW. Remember Mr. Ike Leggett, Chris Van Hollen they are your best friends in Montgomery county

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10:22 AM MST on Thu., Mar. 6, 2008 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

from Fairfax Virginia said:
As a hispanic I feel sorry for these people but I also think there are laws in this country and they must be respected.Is time our local authorities do what the federal government does not do,inforce inmigration laws,most of these people do not any education whatsoever and make rest of us look bad with their behavior,with their lack of English skills and with their way of living(a lot of people under one roof and seeking jobs on the streets for example)I think the State of Virginia should follow Prince Williams resolutions and start cleaning the streetdicho.

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5:52 AM MST on Wed., Oct. 17, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
Fairfax county dodges the issue and buys a 106 million dollar permanent camp for illegals, great.

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4:03 PM MST on Wed., Aug. 29, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

PWC resident said:
How are illegal immigrants allowed to buy vehicles, go to school, and get license plates from the DMV? EAJ

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9:53 AM MST on Thu., Aug. 9, 2007 re: "Local leaders speak out against immigration legislation"

Examiner Reader said:
When will the state enact a resolution to give a temporary working permit to these illegal immigrants? SSS should provide a set of numbers to be used solely by these temporary workers (no pension or other benefits should be attached to these numbers). By doing so, they will be able to collect state taxes from these people, they will be able to get drivers licenses and insurance, they will be able to pinpoint the "bad eggs" from the good ones, deport immediately those people who didn't pass background checks. I know this may sound silly, but illegal immigration is getting out of control, there should be a way for the state or federal government to get something back from them.

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6:35 PM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
The Laws have to be Enforced to All Fake Legals from All Continents, and We Know Who!

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3:23 PM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Local leaders speak out against immigration legislation"

David Bier said:
Illegal aliens are just that: illegal. Illegal aliens, unlike immigrant aliens who have legal rights to work, receive tax-paid services and live in the United States, can not legally work or live in the U.S. Any local government official who facilitates illegal immigrants obtaining documents that permit them to work and bank in the U.S. or obtain medical or social services, is engaged in a conspiracy to violate Federal immigration law, tax laws and obstruction of justice. Illegal aliens, regardless of where they came from, violated Federal law by entering the U.S. without permission and should be caught and deported back to their home nations. Government officials take an oath to uphold the laws of the United States and it is not right for any of them, whether a President and his signing statements or a local official selectively enforcing Federal laws and all in between, to ignore Federal immigration law.

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3:11 PM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Local leaders speak out against immigration legislation"

David Bier said:
Illegal aliens are just that: illegal. Illegal aliens, unlike immigrant aliens who have legal rights to work, receive tax-paid services and live in the United States, can not legally work or live in the U.S. Any local government official who facilitates illegal immigrants obtaining documents that permit them to work and bank in the U.S. or obtain medical or social services, is engaged in a conspiracy to violate Federal immigration law, tax laws and obstruction of justice. Illegal aliens, regardless of where they came from, violated Federal law by entering the U.S. without permission and should be caught and deported back to their home nations. Government officials take an oath to uphold the laws of the United States and it is not right for any of them, President or dog catcher and all in between, to ignore Federal immigration law.

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12:23 PM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
The Illegal they don't have social security number so they can't pay FEDERAL TAXES

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12:17 PM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
They don't pay real taxes, and they collected a lot of benefict from the taxpayers.

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12:12 PM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Local leaders speak out against immigration legislation"

Examiner Reader said:
Illegal allien Thank you for the boycott. Now go Home and no comeback no more!!!!

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11:47 AM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
They don't fear because they know that our Govertment Does not enforcing the law to stop the lawbreakers.

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11:36 AM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
Yes my friend remember that the illegal they don't pay FEDERAL nor STATE taxes.

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11:36 AM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Local leaders speak out against immigration legislation"

Examiner Reader said:
All these anti-American traitors in one place??? What an opportunity!!! Get a big net and deport them all!!!, the long and the short and the tall!!!

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10:38 AM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Local leaders speak out against immigration legislation"

Examiner Reader said:
If the State can,t enforce ilegal inmigration law, them it should not enforce nor legislate any other law. They waisting time and tax payers money.

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8:16 AM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Local leaders speak out against immigration legislation"

Lewis said:
I'm generally a big supporter of the ACLU causes but not on illegal immigration. That being said how can the ACLU and other say that local jurisdictions can't enforce federal law? I mean how about gun or drug laws... many of those are federal.. shall we stop local law enforcement from enforcing those laws. How far does it go down.. if my local jurisdiction dosn't have a law against murder, (they rely on the state law) should the not enforce that law? I mean where is the logic there? If jurisdictions have their illegal immigration laws stuck down they should stop enforcing other federal laws also...

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6:49 AM MST on Wed., Aug. 8, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Mike Licht said:
The tattered remains of the Bill of Rights still enshrine rights of assembly and free speech. The Free Market is a principle held sacred by the very factions attacking this boycott. I do not think these are effective tactics in this case, but the fear, hatred, and ill-founded local legislation they generate indicate the depth and nature of the problem.

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1:34 PM MST on Sun., Jul. 29, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
That man is right in saying the more that the illegal-alien community protest, the more that they demonstrate that they have no fears and no respect for the laws of our community and the same goes for their family members and friends. Stop coddling and protecting them.

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8:05 AM MST on Sun., Jul. 29, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
they should just chill out - they are already here.

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7:52 AM MST on Sun., Jul. 29, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
Think of better ways to win the affection of Americans. To boycott businesses is not the proper way to air your "grievances", doing it will only make things worst. My advice to these so-called organizations - although this resolution has been passed, sit down and negotiate with county boards, there is no harm in trying. And also, advise your people not to be abusive of government freebies - this is one of the main concerns of Americans.

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9:07 PM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
In a matter of fact, CNN broadcasted yesterday 70% of our food is imported from overseas mostly from China and partly from Asian countries. Most our fruits and vegetable supplies come from South America . Please forget the argument that our food and milk are cheap thanks to illegal immigrants . It is just NOT TRUE .

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8:59 PM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
Next time, the first question to any election candidate is about illegal immigrants ' resolution . We will truck them fast together with homeland security south of the border . If I were illegal immigrant, I would be quiet and stay out of trouble. However We welcome LEGAL immigrant.

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3:45 PM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
I think it's rather interesting that illegal immigrants can plan a boycott. I wonder, since they all send their earned money back to their countries anyway, will it really have an effect on our economy? Isn't it an outrageous figure of 30 billion per year? Then again, what do I know, they might spend a lot of money buying a big gulps at 7-11. The only problem I have with illegal immigration is that the children of the illegal immigrants get a lot of free services at my expense (tax payer). I am greatful that I am doing well off but I think that money is for the ones who really need it and have potential, not for the ones who just think getting a free buck for the government is the american way. This expands the welfare from generation to generation.

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1:50 PM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
Every patriotic American citizen can do something to discourage the continued presence of the invading illegal aliens. It doesn't matter what they say or do. They are lawbreakers. But not just lawbreakers, because lawbreakers still have a right to be where they are. The illegals are not just lawbreakers. They, in addition, have no right to be where they are. Think hard, and look around you, Everyone can do something to discourage them, in real world, concrete terms. And also discourage any other non-illegals who you notice supporting their continued illegal presence!

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11:36 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
Actually illegals do pay property taxes and they do pay income taxes, its a called a tax pin number which has nuttin to do w/immigration. I work for a real estate company and see the many we have to turn down because they are illegal, or cant get a loan b/c of their status in this country. I agree that the ones that are a menace to society should be deported, starting w/gang members. But the ones that are here have a right to fight and to stay, some of them cant find jobs but thier here so their kids can have a better education a better life. Some mention the fact that govt agencies are helping them, not really, how many whites and blacks are doing the same thing? Gettin the gov't to pay their rent and pay their bills while they sit at home and do nuttin. At least w/illegals, be they, african,hispanic, asian, or carribean, they come here w/goals in mind. And these are just small obsticles in their way, there will always be someone trying to reach the american dream, legal or not.

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9:03 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
It is not hard to control illegal immigrants. We have technology right . The driver license should be tied up to social security and show citizenship status. Anytime , in doubt, the computer data will show information to arrest any terrorists or any people causing social unrest any minute. If you don't want to show your ID, then stay home and DO NOTHING . It does not cost that much to set up this system, but the question is DO US GOVT have the gut to do it for our own people safety and security . Anybody want to emigrate to US, they have to go through the front door .

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8:49 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
Go ahead. I fix myself or I will pay legal immigrants for 1/10 of illegal immigrants labor cost. We just need to set up companies for international temporary workers relief to arrive. First , raise our border high and control who come in and come out in the front door . We can pack these raving illegals and ship them south of the border

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8:29 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
Arrest these invaders let them protest in jail. Deport the llegal Aliens and banning them from receiving some government services. Illegal aliens have no constitutional rights in this country!

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7:00 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
The legal, taxpaying, residents who pay for the illegals will organize a protest and boycott all business, or products from Latin American countries. All suspected illegals will be given two months of from their jobs. The problem orginates in Mexico.... so illegals bashing the citizens of the US is not going to improve anything for persons that want a better life but refuse to respect and obey the immigration laws of the US. Countries around the world have huge numbers of persons that are standing in line(for years) to come into USA legally, so that's what the majority of of are going to support. They also are not determine to disrespect our laws, keep their language, etc., ( which costs unknown tax dollars). Immigrants have up to now, been willing to assimilate and become loyal producing citizens to the USA. Why aren't the demands for a better life made in the Latin American countries?????? Those that want to help can go there.

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5:19 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 28, 2007 re: "Hispanic community in Prince William planning major boycott"

Examiner Reader said:
How on earth do illegal immigrants have Constitutional rights? This argument has been turned on its head by supporters of illegals. What about the drain by illegals on health care services??? Not to mention the fact that most of them do not pay property taxes; yet their children's education costs the property owners a great deal of money. This is just a load of crap by people who are imagining that they have rights here, including the right to feel outraged that they are not welcomed with open arms.

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6:28 AM MST on Wed., Jul. 18, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
Any county officer or employee who questions my residency to receive county services will get the same response: Kiss my ass

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12:41 AM MST on Wed., Jul. 18, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

social sciences major said:
Opponents to the measure: try living in Manassas for maybe a month. Notice how the ER is stuffed to the brim with illegals demanding free health care. Or the remarkably expensive cost of dealing with crime and collateral damage from those who pay 0 dollares into the tax system. That's 0, NOT thousands like the legals. Notice the struggling school systems attempting to deal with the thousands of students who speak no English and demand a free education with 0 dollars of tax paid into the system. The cost of implementing a plan to enforce what law-abiding citizens call "the LAW" is nothing compared to the costs those who BREAK THE LAW incur. Personally, I love hispanics, blacks, whites, asians, whomever. But I can't accept those who invade your home, demand a cheap place to live, free healthcare, protection, and education. My relatives were legal immigrants, and they had a very tough time.Illegals have a tougher time, like bank robbers,scam artists, or any other immoral person

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12:09 AM MST on Mon., Jul. 16, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Carson said:
james, I misread your post and thought the quote was part of it. Sorry. Carson

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12:04 AM MST on Mon., Jul. 16, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Carson said:
Dear james, Before the governments decades long revolution the United States Constitution was the foundation of our country. It is the rules that the government must abide by when it governs over the people. I have just as much jurisdiction over people outside of our law, outside of any article in our Constitution, and outside of our country as anyone in our government. The government is acting in a criminal manner when it CLAIMS it can allow just anyone one from anywhere in the world to come in here and move freely between states. The ONLY provision that protects people from moving freely between States is for legal residence and people that have come in the front door! We need to put a stop to their Revolution before we can regain control of our once great nation.

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5:43 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 14, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

LadyM said:
I'm so sick of the ACLU and their support of Illegal's. Where is their outrage when one of their precious Illegal's rapes a child. Or how about when one of them kills an American Citizen because the Illegal was driving drunk. I think the ACLU should change its name to Everyone But American Civil Liberities Union. They don't seem to care much about the law if it doesn't include an Illegal. They should be ashamed of themselves. Illegal means against the law, or did they miss that class in Law School.

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4:57 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 14, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
Some of us feel that what's happening to our once great nation is everyone’s responsibility. I have just as much jurisdiction over people outside of our law, outside of any article in our Constitution, and outside of our country as anyone in our government. The government is acting in a criminal manner when it CLAIMS it can allow just anyone one from anywhere in the world to come in here and move freely between states. The ONLY provision that protects people from moving freely between States is for legal residence and people that have come in the front door! "When people fear the government, you have tyranny. When the government fears the people, you have liberty" -Thomas Jefferson

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12:14 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 14, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
Protest all you want! If you are here illegally that is all that matters you are a criminal! Yet all you want to talk about is the fact that you are hispanic? That is what is racist! play the race card all you want! everyone knows it's you who is the racist!

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9:47 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 13, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
Illegal immigrants organized protests and run rampant all over the ground near congress. Our police force should be allowed to ask ID. If you don't have ID, you will be in another group to be sent back to your home country to PROTEST as loud and as much as you want in YOUR OWN COUNTRY . Please . Fair enough .

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9:31 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 13, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
Illegals do not file tax return. Their children at college age fill out the FSA form. No record of parents income qualify them for grants and scholarships based on need. Now it is your children turn, the Fed computer indicates your children qualified for a loan after you have to spend 40/50K a year of educational expense. In the mean time, your state tax is collected not missing a penny. A big part of yearly budget is to support the higher education and give out scholarships for those in illegal student in need. Next issue is your social security. When it comes to your turn or your children turn to collect your hard earned money which you have paid during your active years, don't be surprise there is nothing left . It has been cleaned long time ago because politicians like Bush,Mc Cain, Ed kennedy have sold us trying to get illegal immigrant votes. in Maryland, O malley does not have money for PG hospital but he has money to pay $50K tuition expense for illegal immigrant students.

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5:42 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 13, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

james said:
Examiner Reader said: Prince William County combats illegal immigration with an illegal resolution. The U.S. is ruled by the Constitution, not by ignorant county boards. We ALL have the right to pursue happiness in this country. _____________________________________ To the person who wrote this, the constitution and the federal government gives rights to the states, and local municipalities the RIGHT to make and enforce their own laws as they see fit. If you sit back and ask most americans don't have a problem with someone coming here legally. its those who come here illegally that most americans don't like. and we dont care what country you come from. Illegal is illegal. What part of that do you NOT understand?

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5:25 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 13, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

usa today said:
Its time to support Tom Tancredo and put a serious limit on the amount of people we are allowing in here, its not a racist thing , its whats right for this country , we are not the welfare state to the rest of the world , I would love to see 1000s of towns across this country start to impose strict laws and check the papers of every person suspected of being illegal, yes that means ever hispanic , they are by far the biggest offender of illegal immigration , of course all illegals need to be dug out of the shadows and deported.

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4:54 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 13, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Ken Dreger said:
The USA must have limits on its immigration policies; we just cannot take in everyone from every foreign nation. There is a very good article on www.numbersusa.com about how the impact of immigration affects the USA, it is an eye opener, and a recommended read. I to am proud of my heritage, but I place my home here, in the USA first and above all else, one cannot have allegiances to more than one country in my opinion. We are in difficult times now, and things in this country will change, hopefully for the better if we all try hard to work together as a collective group of citizens of one great nation. People who are here legally should have nothing to fear, if we were to migrate to Japan we would be expected to abide by the laws of Japan, not to impose our demands on the government of Japan, and we would assimilate into the very fabric of Japan so as to melt into society and become a true citizen of that country. Like the old saying goes “When in Rome do as the Romans do” ri

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2:01 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 13, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
Clerks barking "papers please". Give me a break! We have to show a card for the library, pool, etc. What's so hard about showing your ID? Too lazy to pull it out of your pocket. The only people upset will be the illegals who think the federal government is rich and should pay for everything. They don't realize We the People, are the ones who the govt. gets it's money from. Oh right, the illegals are paid under the table and wouldn't know what it feels like to pay thousands of dollars. It all sounds fair to me and I'm not surprised some folks automatically jump to the race card when illegals are mentioned. Just shows who the racists are.

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1:55 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 13, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

NoVA mom said:
Hello people - this is NOT ABOUT RACE! Mr Hispanic is crying foul - give me a break! If you are here ILLEGALLY - regardless of what country you came from - you need to go home period. I don't care if you are brown, purple or polka dotted - follow the laws of MY country - or pay the price of deportation. I want my tax dollars to go to American citizens in need!!

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8:05 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 13, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

BostonRay said:
Congratulations to Prince William! Bleating heart liberals cry about the "impossible" job of deporting 12 million illegal liabilities. All that has to be done is take away the benefits they are stealing and enforce existing laws to make working and living here impossible. All that untaxed cash they ship back to Mexico(2nd largest GNP in country) they can now call on and they will pack up and leave at their own cost. We will not only save billions by no longer having them on the dole we will also be safer. Remember, the food stamps, welfare, housing, education and medical subsidies we hand them allow most of their cash to be shipped home to the pueblo. We pay taxes so they can flip us off and laugh all the way to their banco!

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3:15 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 13, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal residents"

Examiner Reader said:
No ID, no way to identify illegals and terrorists. It is the price any sovereign country has to pay. Otherwise, there is no need to have immigration control. Why can we open borders to the world. Our population will shoot up to ten trillions in a day . The future of our kids is the same as everybody else. Why bother to pay tax to provide free tuition and services to foreigners who take away your job and most of all the future of your children ...

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7:55 PM MST on Thu., Jul. 12, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal citizens"

Examiner Reader said:
Prince William County combats illegal immigration with an illegal resolution. The U.S. is ruled by the Constitution, not by ignorant county boards. This resolution will not last 30 days. We ALL have the right to pursue happiness in this country.

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2:27 PM MST on Thu., Jul. 12, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal citizens"

A U.S. CITIZEN said:
We need to maintain a certain level of security in this country by all means. I get asked to see my identification all the time whether it’s at the bank, D.M.V, at the doctor's office, when I purchase cars, houses etc. I don’t see a problem with it. Not making people follow the correct procedure is not fair to the legal immigrants that followed the proper procedures to be in this country and are tax paying citizens. For the people that have a problem with this new law look at the bright side, at least the authorities aren’t using German Sheppard’s and high pressure water hoses, along with other intimidation tactics like during the civil rights movements. I’d much rather just show my Id or driver’s license, it’s a lot less painful.

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12:15 PM MST on Thu., Jul. 12, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal citizens"

dean said:
What on earth can I possibly add to this article? People are, apparently, willing to live in a country where clerks bark "papers, please!" before they serve you. They accept this because they think that it might prevent someone, somewhere from checking out a book from the library if their visa has expired. The nice thing about living in the United States is that demands for proof of citizenship are kept to a minimum-- only when entering the country and when doing paperwork for a new job.

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12:08 PM MST on Thu., Jul. 12, 2007 re: "Prince William County to ID legal, illegal citizens"

Examiner Reader said:
I would like to respond to “There'll be fewer groceries…There'll be less houses …damaging … revenue.” The economy in NoVA and the surrounding Capital Region are strong and the losses from them will be to landlords who rent to illegal immigrants (notice the key “illegal immigrants). There will be more than enough people here legally who will continue to purchase items and use rental apartments/etc. Second the statement“…this bill is wrong...immigrants legal or illegal...will harass us …discriminate against us Hispanics, it’s...how or what”, is not targeting legal citizens or legal immigrants, but those who are here illegally. The Bosnian illegal immigrants who were arrested as for planning actions against Ft Dix NJ were here illegally. This law, which is making up for the failure of our federal government to enforce our immigration laws for safety and security and makes sense. We need to remember several of the 9/11 terrorists were here illegally making them illegal immigrants.

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