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Now, some want to return to doing it their way.
One Redskin said because so many guys did work out here this past offseason, many are now “burned out’’ and need to get away.
Gibbs said they’ll “look at everything and see if there’s a better way of doing something.’’ But he places a great importance on offseason attendance (it was 98 percent last offseason).
“Our emphasis will be, when we tee it up, Redskins need to be here,’’ he said.
But it is evident that players lack confidence that the way they did it last year is the right way. Some players have incentives in their contracts if they work out in Ashburn (workouts begin in March and were held Tuesday-Thursday). Others, though, would rather follow programs that they’ve used for years.
“Hard work is the key to winning, but at the same time you have to be smart,’’ Redskins end Phillip Daniels, who would prefer to work out in Atlanta, said. “I talked to other guys and they wish they could get back into their programs. ... I don’t know if we worked too hard or came in and did too much.’’
Daniels said he feels he gets better workouts on his own because he’s one-on-one with a trainer and time is not spent on things such as meetings with coaches.
“Sometimes I wonder if I got back into [his program] if it would eliminate some of my injuries,’’ he said. “I have a great program [in Atlanta] and I had great years when I did that program.’’
Receiver Santana Moss would prefer to work out in Miami, where he’s from and where he went to college.
“We get so many opportunities to be professionals on so many occasions,’’ Moss said. “But it seems like the one thing we want to do to make ourselves better is taken away from us. A lot of teams don’t have to deal with it. But teams have rules and you have to abide by them. I’m not saying don’t be here at all, but just give us that right. It sucks, but it’s something that should be brought up because it helps a lot of guys.’’
Not everyone follows that thinking.
“It’s an NFL program, so it should be top of the line,’’ tight end Chris Cooley said. “I’ll do what they ask.’’
Week 15 Notes
» Linebacker Robert McCune has been signed off the practice squad by Miami. McCune was a fifth-round draft choice in 2005 from Louisville, but he’s been on the practice squad all season.
McCune did play in five games for Washington last season and in both playoff contests, but only on special teams and not at middle linebacker.
» Statworthy: The Redskins’ defense ranks last in sacks per pass and turnovers caused. Washington is on pace to create only 12 turnovers this season, which would shatter the franchise record for the lowest amount of turnovers — 21, set in 1998. The Redskins have scored just 13 points off turnovers this season and none since Oct. 1 vs. Jacksonville. Meanwhile, the opposition has scored 44 points off the Redskins’ 14 turnovers.
» Redskins corner Shawn Springs on his motivation for the rest of the season, “We have a great job. When you go to a place like Walter Reed [Hospital], I see guys who are the same age as me and who come back [from Iraq] with missing arms and legs and they’re still excited about the Redskins. That’s one of my motivations. If you can’t get motivated having one of the greatest jobs, then you don’t deserve to be here and you’re not respecting



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montrocpas said:
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Examiner Reader said:
The tenor of this reporter's first sentence is rather offensive. "Once more, the Redskins have to deal with a potentially tragic situation." It sounds like the lady WRC interviewed with regard to the accident on the bridge a couple days ago. All she cared about was the incompetence of the police handling the accident and how many hours she had been delayed (2 hrs). No concern for the truck driver's death or his family, even after this was brought to her attention. Sick. This business with Joe Bugel isn't about the Redskins or football. It's ALL about his daughter's life. Anyone with an ounce of compassion would have written the intro to this article with that in mind. Anything less than that does the man, his daughter, and the management and ownership of the Redskins, who know how much this man has given to the organization and the players. Time to get a conscience and some compassion, Mr Keim.
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The Conservative Brotherhood said:
Another reason for the boy wonder to take the skins back to DC.
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Grandstrand said:
1st article ever read at the Examiner. Glad to see another publication online where I can follow the Skins! Tony - Novi, Michigan
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GAB said:
I like what I see so far. The Big Egos are gone from the coaching staff. The assistant coaches are in place who have been here, so there's real consistency. Let's focus on having fun. Winning games, of course, would make it more fun.
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Examiner Reader said:
Portis said it bests and for all you Redskin and Portis haters Gibbs/Saunders feuding left the offense predictabel aand confused.. “One idea, one philosophy,” Portis said. “Everyone will get on the same page. This system will be more like a spread Denver system; same strategy. ... It will be more opportunity to open up. There won’t be people pulling at each other. “We’ll have an advantage working one-on-one and exploiting matchups, which we didn’t do a lot of the last couple years.”
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GAB said:
Why don't we take the nine draft picks and pick nine players? This isn't basketball; one wide receiver isn't going to turn this team around in a year.
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Andres said:
You can never replace #21, but I didn't think Reed Doughty did a horrible job back there. If we keep our current SS & FS I think a rotation system could work out. If we concentrate more up front (DE/DT) perhaps that will take off the pressure of not having #21.
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Damon said:
man what about kenny phillips !!! we still have a gaping hole in our D that needs to be fixed. no one could ever fill the gap #21 left. but, ill tell u kenny phillips is the closest we are gonna ever get !!!
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John Dorian said:
What about Limas Sweed (WR from Texas)? Odds are Malcolm Kelly won't be available at 21. A lot of people predict Kelly will be the first WR taken. Limas Sweed is listed at 6'5", but is realistically 6'4". He is a big WR, and he should be available at 21.
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Andres said:
Well you can't say that either Frank. I mean three years ago we made it to the playoffs with Gibbs and beat Tampa but lost to Seattle. The next year is when we got our new OFF Coach, Al Saunders and we had a pre season and horrible year. This year we made the playoffs but you never know how players will play until the game starts. Al Saunders was suppose to come in and help us light up the score board. Instead we still scored the same 14-17 pts we have been for the past years. Hopefully Zorn and our new Off coach can make the playbook and scheme fit our existing players instead of vice versa.
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Frank said:
how dumb are the redskins fan!! I think very dumb. We got a playoff team that will get alot better on the off side in everything. I like Gibbs but his time past him when he left the first time.He got them back to playoff form and Zorn will get them to superbowl form.I dont like snyder or vinnie but what choose do i have Iam a redskins fan,if snyder can just let the coach get who he want evrything will be fine. All ur bangwagon fans out there go somewhere else dont need ur stuiped comments about a team u dont really support. At the end redskins will be fine overall new system is whatwe needed and campbell.. superbowl here we come!!!
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GAB said:
At least we have draft picks--a sign that Darth Vinny and the Emperor Dan are getting the hang of running a team! Oh, well, slowly learned is well-learned.
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Examiner Reader said:
Who Cares
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GAB said:
Andres: Thanks for the note. I believe this team is on the right path, in that the only big egos are Darth Vinny and the Emperor Snyder. They could announce a cure for cancer and they'd get boos from the Redskins fans! I think the coaching team is going to work fairly well together, and Zorn is going to be better than we think. And considering his drills -- "if you can dodge traffic, you can dodge a ball!"
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Andres said:
Well better late than never? I don't get it, Redskin fans complain about how much we use free agencies to fill in holes in our team, when we know you build a team from the draft. Yet Vinny now says they won't be using Free Agencies because there is not much to choose that they'll concentrate on the draft, and you still complain....
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Andres said:
Reply to Gab: Our RB's having be doing great in my opinion. The year Portis went down our second back reached 1,000 yards. Not many teams can do that with the 2nd back, let alone their first RB. I feel our RB's are fine but being this will be a bit different offensive scheme I feel that was the reason why our RB coach was relesed.
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Examiner Reader said:
NOW they worried about overpaying free-agenst! *lol* turning in my season tickets while we rebuild oer the next 3 years. See you again in 2012!
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GAB said:
"Dodge ball provides obvious help for avoiding defenders in the pocket." -- If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!
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GAB said:
Considering the poor progress of Redskins running backs, Byner was a logical choice to let go. Let's see how Zorn Skywalker does in the era of Darth Vinny and the Emperor Danny.
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Khareem said:
This is really scaring and confusing me all I hope is that everyone can mesh together and be on the same page. Before the preseason and training camp starts.
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Examiner Reader said:
No one wants the job. LOL. Chris
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GAB said:
Again, I don't think Snyder is planning for a tradition head coach, who controls all aspects of the game. He's looking at someone more like a baseball manager, who will control the training schedule and the game itself, but not personnel decisions. Let's see if it works.
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BostonRay said:
It appears no one wants to work under Snyder and get stuck with Snyder's previously hired coaching staff. Who can blame them.
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Examiner Reader said:
Hey Spag get ready for the worst sorelosers in the league. Get ready for all the Yankee jokes Get ready for the Italian slams this is the worse place to coach a team. Everyone from TV to the fans are the best Monday Morning quarterbacks. Go Giants !!!!!
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GAB said:
Would Mariucci be a good mix for this team? He might be. The idea from what I have seen is that most of the coaches are in place and there's going to be some consistency. We don't need a Big Ego coach trying to tell us "my way or the highway." Ask Gregg Williams about that. We need someone more like a team manager, in the same way Manny Acta manages the Nats.
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Examiner Reader said:
go skins
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GAB said:
The only thing a business must do is make a profit for the people who provided its capital. Even a professional football team has no obligations beyond that. Of course, the football team must either be plugged into a revenue stream that covers expenses. In the case of the NFL, there are many of these streams, including over-the-air TV, cable, and sponsorship.-- There is no legal obligation for Snyder to do anything else but provide a product. There is no moral obligation for Snyder to do anything else but provide a product. --Like any other consumer, if you are unhappy with the Redskins' product on the field, you do not have to consume it. You could not buy tickets to the games. You could not buy team paraphernalia. You could not tune into the games. You could tune out stations that try to foist Redskins programming on you.--The problem is not Dan Snyder. The Redskins fan, who complains about Snyder but yet watches the games and buys the jerseys, is the problem. You can control that.
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Examiner Reader said:
Maybe he has his organizations confused, this is the NFL and not Six Flags. This man is rolling in the money and for godsakes, he needs to sell the team to someone that wants to win, not pass go and collect $200!
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WOW! said:
Needless to say the players aren't too enthused about these developments. How can they be? I know they are just as frustrated as the fans! I can imagine how Portis feels. He lost his buddy Gibbs, Williams, and potentially Ernest Byner. All of this surfaces because one Daniel Snyder can't let a real GM handle things. All I can honestly hope for is for season ticket holders to boycott this owner and support the team from your living room.
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Examiner Reader said:
What is wrong with the redskins owner? Why cant he be better. I think they should leave it up to the fans. They need to decide what is best for thier team. But still the owner owns the skins so he sould let them decided
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GAB said:
Well, exynyman, let's look at the success of the traditional GM/coach model. Half the teams that use it are below .500. It's not the business structure that has been the failure; it's the people who are making the decisions who have failed. Oh, how I remember some awful Giants teams with a GM/head coach model! However, there are signs Cerrato and Snyder are learning. This delay in a head coach selection is positive. No one is snapping for the next Big Name. We admit that we are probably only the third-best team in the NFC East. However, three NFC East teams made the playoffs, didn't they? By the way, congratulations on the Giants and I hope they make the Patriots the unhappiest 18-1 team in history.
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exnyman said:
Dan and Vinnie are two of the greatest football minds of our time. Their show of courage to step outside the box is truly valiant. Keep up the good work. Signed, a NY Giants fan.
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Examiner Reader said:
Hey Dan, I hear Wayne Fonts (ex. Detroit coach) is available. How about hiring him?
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Examiner Reader said:
That just goes to show you Snyder is NOT about his word.
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GAB said:
"dan synder must be one of the worse owners in history." Wrong, oh, how wrong! Snyder has many faults, but he's not a cheapskate like Leonard Tose was with the Eagles; he hasn't moved franchises around to make money, like Bob Short; and he hasn't allowed a culture of sexism and corruption like that man who owns Madison Square Garden.--Relax, friend. It's only January. We'll see what happens. Besides, we have the Wizards, the Capitals, the Nats, and D.C. United to cheer on as well.
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GAB said:
There will be more continuity with the present coaching staff than the previous reader believes. Greg Blache is defensive coordinator; he was doing the job. Joe Bugel will stay and coach the line. Other coaches are staying. What we lost were the two most prominent coaches, but the Redskins' coaching staff were "too many chiefs and not enough Indians" as it were. (Sorry about that!) Snyder wants a good technical head coach who will run the games and practices, but not try to run the front office as well. No matter how we feel about Cerrato, he is, in effect, the GM for the team, and only one person should have that responsibility. Finding a coach who will fit Snyder's needs will be difficult, because of the nature of being a coach. The big ego comes with the big paycheck. This might be why all the assistant head coaches were in place first, so Coach Big Ego won't try to wreck the real foundation Coach Gibbs left us. Snyder is smarter than we think he is. I hope he's right.
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Examiner Reader said:
well Dan, you have screwed up any chance of keeping continuity with present coaching staff and with the players. good luck with your 4-12 season next year.
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GAB said:
"Hey Dan, How about hiring a successful coach instead on one that has been fired in the past." Like Tony Dungy, who won the Super Bowl last year--after having been fired? Like Marty Schottenheimer and Norv Turner, who both took the Chargers to the AFC championship last year after having been fired? Coaches do get fired and then learn or find a better environment for their teams. Keep it in perspective. It's only football.
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Examiner Reader said:
i'm already giving my redskin stuff away. dan synder must be one of the worse owners in history. Raatt1340
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Examiner Reader said:
Hey Dan, How about hiring a successful coach instead on one that has been fired in the past.
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Examiner Reader said:
D. Green should be in hes the BEST redskins of all theres a typo in this story its missing a " at the end of where he says "it's pretty, pretty special"
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Objective observer said:
Joe Gibbs II proved to be a mediocre coach when faced with a salary cap; despite how many assistant coaches Dan Snyder bought for him.I do think he was a good team chaplain during the Sean taylor crisis though.
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Jame Brown said:
thanks Joe for the trip. haave a great retirement and enyoy your family. thanks.
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GAB said:
Pumpkin? There are 18 other teams who would have loved to play a game in January. The season was a moderate success, in that they came back to the playoffs after a 5-11 season, then a four-game losing streak in this season. Do you want an Alice in Wonderland sports competition where "everyone has won and all must have a prize?" Someone has to lose, and 11 playoff teams end their season with a loss.
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Examiner Reader said:
It's over, the wheels came off the coach Cinderella. Time to see it for the pumpkin it was. LOL. Chris
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Seattle Times Reader said:
The mo-hawk has been worn by 35% of all african american NFL players this year. Clearly Rick Snider is not aware of this. Cartwright is doing nothing worth writing an article about. Get ready to shave that spent haircut, go home with a big fatty L NorthWest style.
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Examiner Reader said:
I hate to say it, but even in the run and I am delighted for the team, Portis is still overpaid. Sorry! Again, I am happy and have been a fan since before many of these current players even knew anything about the Washington Redskins, but the reality is up until recently many including Portis was just average. I am happy he is looking like the Portis we hoped to have gotten from Denver. However, Portis realize that these fans are FANS and this is a football town, so before you go offending fans and talking about bandwagon, many of us fans saw what was happening and didn't like it. We knew you could do better, but it wasn't showing. Perhaps now you can see with your play of recent of what you can do week in and out if you just try! Good luck and go as far as you can, but to call out fans is not your job, just play the game as hard as you can and see what happens.
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GAB said:
Well, I'm delighted to see that the Redskins are discovering a purpose and a joy in playing football again. Collins has been a gift from God, and the defense, ironically, is stronger having to play without Sean Taylor. Cunning and will replaces talent. Every game the Redskins play now is a gift, to be accepted with joy. Oh, yeah, and we beat Dallas when they were trying to play football, and their sportswriters admit it too.
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Examiner Reader said:
Examiner, get the right post up for the right stories! Makes you look real amateur!
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