Eastern AZ boy's attorney seeks new judge in case

I cant beleive they are still torturing this child. I would gladly bring him to my home and make sure he gets the best education and home life he deserves. Ed is right, a child would never kill their parent or relative unless they felt they needed to defend themself, If it is the case that this child committed the murders then they should be looking for that motive, though I am still not convinced that this boy committed the murders as the evidence and the circumstances surounding the killing do not fit in with a child of that age, being capable of killing in the manner to which they claim.

I could never jail or detentin this child of age 8-9, as i read there was other problems. There's lots of wierd stuff with children killing and just is not right, this child may have been defending himself, and now a 11 year olds in pa is charged in another instace. WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS--- Is it the tv, games and or more. when i was a kid most stuff you would never see till late average or after a bedtime and controled by FCC and others. They show wrong ways of handling problems and of what kids young kids should never see or even hear about. when i was a kid most of the time wasn,t even aloud the news, it just wasn,t good for a kid to know bad stuff or influenced, sorry about my spelling, but we need some changes, and if TV- cable, vidoes and their advitizers want it maybe we should do something and cancel our accounts. this just is not right period, where is our society going. I just would like not to see any child in this mess, they should be playing and making freinds.

This is insane. This child has no understanding of the charges he's suppose to be facing, and yet this evil Judge allows this plea with no psychological assessment of the child. Even God would not sentence this child due to his age. This Judge is nothing less than a terrorist and child abuser

Prison? Are we talking about a prison with adult men? I don't know how any could justify sending a 9 year old to a prison with adults. How could one even justify trying him as an adult? Do people really think he has the capacity to fully appreciate what he's done? Furthermore, adults break down during interrogation and admit to things they didn't do, what about a child? Did the look at other suspects? Is he really so EVIL that he deserves this?

prison for the kid if u let him go other kid mit get a idia and killing there parents

How strange can it be that all of those relitives have given those statements about these so called threats but never questioned why an 8 yr old nephew would make such threats about his father. I'm sorry but I am not convinced.

This about it like this.....at 8 or 9, kids still believe in Santa Claus. What does this tell you? He's a child developmentally regardless of what he did....he needs help and he should get it...putting him in jail is only creating a career criminal for the future. He will never be able to adapot to the outside world having been raised in a jail like institution. What are the people thinking? Gezz.

stupid people please send this poor abused little child to his mother and get him help

It seems to me that this judge is not fit to over-see this case. He is far to slow to deal with the basic issues of competency, two months have now passed since the killings. At this point any competency examination on a child charged with an alleged murder can no longer be seen as a safe assessment, which would mean that the earlier assessment by the defence would be the most accurate. The prosecution may claim that the competency examination is to determine if the boy can stand trial. But this would not be safe if he was not competent at the time, particularly where the evidence is purely circumstantially based.

This is just tipicle of Prosecutors to find ways of trying to win a case regardless of the childs age, and clearly shows how in humane they can be. Is it any wonder why America is seen by the World as torturers,

If anyone is found to be incompetent at the time of the killings then how can it be possible for him/her to stand trial even if he/she is competent within the so called time limit. Surely if he/she was not competent at the time of the killings then any conviction could not be rendered safe. On the other issue why are the incompetent detectives not looking further into the boy's biological mother Tanya Romans, there are clearly some unanswered questions about her role in this case.

If that boy did murder his father in cold blood, it's only a result of how he was raised (or the lack thereof). If he's a psychopathic, bi-polar, sociopath more cunning than all the forensic psychologists in town....he must be some 8 year old. I say send the kid home with his mom, make stricter gun laws and advance every term which defines whether a child can or cannot be convicted of murder or not. This circus has gone on way too long.

I have a seven year old child and I have weapons in my home, and have also obtained a license to pack a handgun. But i am also responsible enough to keep my handgun locked up & out of reach from my child. As more times than not a gun is responsible for killing your own family members than a criminal! Even our hunting rifles are locked up & shells are out of reach!! COME ON people this is ridiculous!!!! PAM

Nothing has been mentioned about examining the boy for sexual abuse.The step mother nor the mother have been brought to light. I believe that the stepmother knew the boy was being abused & finally decided to put a stop to it.(If she did,Give her a medal & send her home)Knowing that nothing would happen to the boy with him being 8 yrs old,she talked him up to taking the blame. If the boy was mad at his dad,why would he kill the other guy too? If the stepmother spanked him also,why not kill her too? Hypnotise the boy & find out what happened before you ruin his life. And to the grandparents,I pray to God that the courts don't award this child to you.Why in the world would you say that your grandchild is capable of murder?Even if he was/is ,no redblooded grandparent would say that.Keep in mind people,The kid is ONLY 8 yrs old.

To the one who says he's not remorseful!. Would you be remorseful if your father abused you. And besides there is no evidence linking the boy to the murders, not even finger prints on the gun. The cops even say he cleaned up the mess. This 8 yr old must be watching alot of detective programs. Perhaps he even writes the CSI stories. For goodness sake let this innocent child go.

F Y I:the kid would probably stay in juvenile jail until he is old enough to be tried as an adult and when he is, he might get 25 to life in prison because the killing were premeditated and it's second-degree murder.

Why hasn't anyone questioned the mother. She should be a person of interest. And I think it's ok to teach your son how to shoot a 22, just don't give him access to it....duh!

This was his father, and he's not even the slightest bit remorseful about the death much less the killing. Am I the only one who see's this?

Someone needs to get to the bottom of this already. Solve the damn crime and charge the right person. My cousin is dead for God Sakes.

I believe this child is being blackmailed. Shame on the police interrogating them. The police is brainwashing the kid. The kid is so confused he probably feels is his fault. There is probably someone at large and if they keep worrying about if the kid did it, this other individual is out. I hope justice is served in this case!

Until the truth comes out,as to who coerced him after he kept telling them at the begining "They,and when They". Now who is They? Someone was with this little boy,and he seems to be protecting someone.How can he have shot all these rounds of bullets,and no one heard that many? Is everyone in the neighborhood stone death? I come out,when I hear a loud noise? Something is very wrong here,and they are not catching it. The little boy deserves to be cleared. Surely get the help he needs to deal with the death of his dad,and friend,when he did see them. That will always stay in his mind forever. The help he needs will be for the rest of his life,whether he did this or not? I'm for finding out Who,Who,and Who did this,being that it is said that the other victim may have been dealing drugs. Something went terribly wrong. Where did the money in the room come from that showed on the video,which was 100 dollar bills on someone's pants? I do hope they will check all the possiblity. He's Innocent.

This case just gets more and more ridiculous every day. The police states hat the boy admitted to firing at least two shots at each of the men, who the fired the other four. And now the grandmother says she knew this would happen and that he was capable of killing them. If this is the case, what did she do to try and avert it. Seems to me another classic example of looking for an escape goat, and who better than a weak defenceless 8 yr old. And what is all this nonsense about this kid keeping a written ledger of the so-called 1000 spankings, lets just forget about the ledgers, if the issue about the 1000 spankings is true then that is more than enough evidence that this child was systematically abused.

I do really hope that they may find out this little 8yr.old didn't do this. Someone else seems to be involved,as he told them to beging with and they didn't beleive him,until the interrogatation without his family or attorney,has to have been so frightening,and he then admitted to doing this. There are alot of stories,as it is said the family has a lot of hidden abuse. We will wait to see what they come up with next,as they have ruinded his life. He will never be able to be a little boy again,as they took that away from him. Give this little guy a chance,he told the truth. No killer is he.

Seems like the first thing to do is draw conculustions. Evidence will tell a story but I'm thinking there is more to this and hopefully were not holding the wrong person. We can only go by what the media is telling us and I'm not convinced totally that this little boy is fully responsible. I think somebody put him up to confess and someone else did the shooting. Hopefully we don't have a murdered running the streets while this boy is being brainwashed.

As a retired Police investigator, who spend several years investigating homicides, and crimes against juveniles, I'd like to know how the police in Arizona are able to interview a juvenile suspect with out an adult present who is looking out for the childs welfare. Obviously an 8 year old is to young to understand his miranda rights, or wave them. In the state I worked in a suspect under 18 years of age could not be questioned with out an adult, parent, DHS worker, or court appointed guardian, being present. Also my state, and the states around it don't allow a child under twelve to be transfered to adult status for any reason because of the massive difference in development at such a young age. Why even have a juvenile court system if it can be done a way at the whim of the DA, at first transfering of juveniles to adult court was used for those very close to adulthood who, or gang members, who were using their juvie status to get away with crimes, and were old enough to understood.

bring in the real homicide detective from 48-hours they will solve it.these rookie cops don't know what the hell there dealing with.they should look for motive,who's behind this.this was stage-set-up/plan...wake up people..

i know what happened

This CHILD was definitely COERCED into a FALSE CONFESSION! I watched a 29 minute and 30 second version of the St. Johns Police Department’s interrogation of this 8 year old child and it is VERY CLEAR that the two police officers tricked, influenced, and coerced this child into giving FALSE replies to their LEADING QUESTIONS and STATEMENTS! The police officers kept insisting on the “truth” even when the boy kept stating that he was telling the truth. They would NOT ACCEPT his witness testimony. They acted as JUDGES not as INFORMATION COLLECTORS. In the lengthier version of the interrogation you see the child, repeatedly, giving the SAME VERSION, of finding Timothy Romans and Vincent Romero already dead or dying, upon coming to the house. For over 20 minutes the child tells the same version, repeatedly, with no discrepancies UNTIL the ARMED POLICE officers start confusing this CHILD with FALSE STATEMENTS.

What if MOM put the kid up to it, figuring he was a juvenile..This is to punish Dad for marrying another woman??

How sick .... Goes to show you how small town cops get hyped when something bigger than a parking ticket is issued. This small town Arizona should award these two winners thier donuts for job well done. defence needs to call in the real officals maybe from phx. and get this job done right.

Plan or no plan....he's 8 years old!!! What is wrong with everyone? He's 8!!!!! I don't know what scares me more...the economy or trying an 8 year old as an adult.

i just don't get it yet. the kid planned this out? he overpowered two men twice his size? overpowered them long enough to shoot them in different rooms,reload his gun,then cleaned himself up and had no blood splatter on him or gun powder residue? have you all seen the tape? the police put all the details into his head. they coax him into the final confession and tell him what to say. he never says oh ok you got me i did it and this is how i did it. they tell him he reloaded the gun, asking him things to trick him into answers. if the kid is truly that smart,make up a big alibi story, then how is he isnt cunning enough to know the cops are tryig to trick him. they have to keep repeating the things they want him to admit to. this was nightline and i am not buying it yet.ew big smart police got confession out of an 8 year old. lets try him as an adult and lock him up with 300lb very bad men?it's a witch hunt! would like to know a lot more details.not willing to hang him just yet.

this policecorps should be brought to federalcourt for cross-examinen an child under severe shock, without the presence of an lawyer or any legal reprentant. Shame on the Judge & the DA. Most probably they want to make it into political case onbehalf of the future of this poor child!!!

I think CSI N.Y. should step in!!!

if his parents were not up to educate the child...for instance how does the stepmother fit in?

Al .. are you serious .22 cal causing bruising on any thing much less a human, regardless of age.. I was shooting .30 cal at 10yrs,old and i understand there is a huge amount of .22's out there 22-250- .223 .22mag and so on my 9yr.old shoots .223 with out any discomfort.. BUT coming from a brit that knows about NOTHING when it comes to fire arms I should not be surprised.. dgna5

I'm not saying what happened is right, But this is a little boy were talking about.Who's father taught him how to shoot a gun.One minute we as parent's are responsible, And then boom when the kid does something socitey dosen't like there the adult make up your mind.How much can a child really understand when doing something of this nature.He need's help he doesn't need to be locked away till he's twenty one and then released back into society a hatefullperson.

Hmm! 22 calibre rifle, 8yr old boy, how strange is that. did they check to see if the boy has a bruises on his shoulder, perhaps he may have fractured or even broke his collar bone when the rifle recoiled. He would have been in pain after discharging several rounds into 2 adults. oops I forgot both adult were in separate parts of the building. Come on do you seriously believe that this child could have done this. I for one don't believe he did. He is clearly protecting someone, and further-more what is a so-called civilised Country doing prosecuting an 8yr old. This makes me glad I'm British and not American.

i just dont see how any one could kill the person that brought them into the world!!! or mabey did someother aduldt putt this 8 year up to doing such a crim like this

WHATEVER HAPPEN TO PLAYING WITH ARMY MEN?

I lived in St. Johns and still have family there. My daughter went to school with Vincent. We are all totally shocked at the horrific circumstances of this shooting. There was one paper that said there had not been a killing in St. Johns for over 20 years. That statement is untrue, check the records for a fatal stabbing in St. Johns about 10 years ago involving a man who caught another man in his house with his wife.

2 victims-or 3? I am concerned that this boy was interrogated with no adult advocate or legal counsel present. Then they were all congratulating themselves on getting a confession and solving the case. The police want him tried as an adult-and seem disappointed that won't happen. The prosecutor announcing that the child would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for heinous murder. Nowhere have I seen any sign of a city, county, or state official concerned with how this child has been talked about or treated through all of this-No recognition that this child is in desperate trouble and needs help. Does Arizona videotape interrogations? Should I just be relieved that it is no longer legal to execute juveniles?

I just can't believe this I have a 9 year old, honestly I don't think a 9 year old can plan something like this.

Waffles: This is absurd. Would you not teach your child to drive a car just because they could get hurt/hurt someone using it? I doubt it. Guns don't hurt people, people hurt people. We have guns in our house, therefore, as a responsible parent, we expect our children to understand how they work, how to use them and how to respect them. I agree that it is interesting that the mom visits and then this happens. I also agree they need to look into possible abuse. I know it's horrible to think, but like someone else said, a "normal" child wouldn't do anything like this for no reason.

Doesn't anyone find it interesting that the biological mom visits, leaves, shortly thereafter the boy apparently does the shooting. It was just two months after his dad remarried. I'm not implicating the boy's bio mom but saying maybe it made the son sad when she left and that he might not have been all that happy with the stepmom and blamed his dad.

They were teaching the kid to use a gun-that kinda throws up flags for me, and like, where does an 8 year old just happen to pick up a .22 caliber rifle?! If this is how these people teach their kids, It's less surprising than it was when I saw the headline, with all due respect to the victims.

there either was a reason or maybe just maybe he has a personitly disorded. he needs to be qustioned and treated not interigated . sry can't spell right

You people need to set your priorities straight. Why are you focusing on the grammar?

This is a serious story, I do not think it is about grammar, ridiculous

The police might want to check in with possible abuse of the 8 year old, a young boy dosen't just shoot two people without probable cause. Just a thought.