DC same-sex marriage language examined

Re: California Supreme Court upheld the states ban on Gay Marriage: A historic day for marriage as we all know it to be. Kudos to the California Supreme Court justices for not allowing the gay activists to sway their judgment and to see that this whole gay marriage thing is nothing more than a sham. As a gay man, I commend the justice’s decision to uphold the voter’s decision to ban gay marriage and I hope all other states will follow suit. Gay marriage should and will always be between a man and a woman, that’s the reality. Thank you, Sincerely, Paul Priore (Flushing, New York.)

again, why would someone marry someone who looks like themselves, goes the potty like each other themselves, with the same toiletry habits, etc. so this simon low says no to gay marriage because they already can have civil unions. many ha-ha laughs in chinatown.

Re: New York City/ New York State attempt to pass this sham of a Gay Marriage/ Civil Union marriage Bill: As a Gay Man, I strongly oppose Gay Marriage/Civil Unions and gay adoption. If New York City/ New York State succeeds in allowing gay people to get married and adopt children, it will start a disastrous chain reaction of events and open up a paradox to destroy the very foundation and sanctuary of marriage as we all know it, not to say how it will eventually stop the production of children for future generations to come. Marriage will and always will be between a man and woman, there is no exceptions to this rule that has been around for many centuries. One could only wonder how the courts will deal with the divorce issues that will undoubtedly occur as a result to gay people filing for divorce almost every day of the week as a result to fights between them for stupid stuff as cheating, jealousy and any other misunderstandings that gay people always have. Then comes

Re: New York City/ New York State attempt to pass this sham of a Gay Marriage/ Civil Union marriage Bill: As a Gay Man, I strongly oppose Gay Marriage/Civil Unions and gay adoption. If New York City/ New York State succeeds in allowing gay people to get married and adopt children, it will start a disastrous chain reaction of events and open up a paradox to destroy the very foundation and sanctuary of marriage as we all know it, not to say how it will eventually stop the production of children for future generations to come. Marriage will and always will be between a man and woman, there is no exceptions to this rule that has been around for many centuries. One could only wonder how the courts will deal with the divorce issues that will undoubtedly occur as a result to gay people filing for divorce almost every day of the week as a result to fights between them for stupid stuff as cheating, jealousy and any other misunderstandings that gay people always have. Then comes

Re:Schwarzenegger will veto gay marriage bill: Kudos’ to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger for having the guts and courage to want to ban Gay Marriage and Civil Unions in the state of California. As a Gay man, I commend Governor Schwarzenegger and any other politician that has the insight to see through this Gay Marriage sham. Governor Schwarzenegger at least considers the will of the people’s voting rights and will not be swayed by the Gay Lobbyists. Most Gay activist have not considered what kind of problems people will face in the near future if the Gay Rights marriage bill is passed, it will open a can of worms/ Pandora box and change the meaning that marriage is and always will be between a man and women. As it stands now, if a man divorces his wife, she undoubtedly will get the majority of the money and assets, as well as child support, but if two gay men divorce, both will claim to be the women leaving the judges to decide who gets what. Most gay men fall in love with someone

Re:Providence R.I.Governor Don Carcieri ban on gay marriage: Kudo's to you for having the guts to see through this gay marriage/civil union sham and having the guts to prevent gay marriage/ civil unions in Rhode Island from becoming legal and law. I'm glad that Governor Don Carcieri have the insight to see that Gay marriage is going to cause more trouble for everyone in the near future and has put a stop to it right in it's tracks. As a gay man, I strongly oppose Gay Marriage/Civil Unions. Thank You. Sincerely, Paul Priore (Flushing,N.Y.)

Let the people of Vermont "VOTE" if they wish to live in a gay State. The PEOPLE VOTED on civil unions and they were ignored by our politicians who were bought$$$ by the gay and lesbian lobby!

Get over it! How hard is it for people to understand that Marriage is defined as a man and women. How perverted does our culture have to go to allow a lifestyle choice to dictate hundreds of years of definitions of marriage!

I have always supported gay/lesbian rights. I have always viewed gay and lesbians as a whole the most peaceful loving people. They are my friends and good people in the community, but that face is now gone. I have no more respect for them as a whole. Hypocrisy is the theme of their violent demonstrations on the mormon people. Their signs are ignorant and they have lost any respect that they have taken 20 years to earn. I will never forget what they have done this past week, forgive yes, forget NO!

This is stupid and self defeating. Rather than trying to change their opinion, they are making these people enemies for life. And carrying out pogroms like this against people who oppose gay marriage based on their religious beliefs borders on bigotry. There are other means of protest to make your displeasure known than targeting individuals. All the gay marriage advocates are doing is sealing their fate the next time such a measure goes before the votes.

In addition to protests, gay activists have begun publishing lists online exposing individuals and organizations who have donated money in support of Proposition 8. On AntiGayBlacklist.com, individuals who gave money toward Proposition 8 are publicized, with readers urged not to patronize their businesses or services. The list of donors was culled from data on ElectionTrack.com, which follows all contributions of over $1,000 and all contributions of over $100 given before October 17. Dentists, accountants, veterinarians and the like who gave a few thousand dollars to the cause are listed alongside major donors like the Container Supply Co., Inc. of Garden Grove, Calif., which gave $250,000. "Anyone who steps into a political fight aimed at taking away fundamental rights from fellow citizens opens themselves up to criticism," said Wolfson. "The First Amendment gives them the right of freedom of speech and to support political views, but people also have the right to criticize them."

Opponents of gay marriage in California are suffering the effects of a childish tantrum thrown by those who lost on Proposition 8. There have been attacks on Mormons for leading the fight for the ballot initiative as well as racial epithets hurled at African Americans because 70% of them voted "Yes" to define marriage as between a man and a woman.

The more these pervs come out the better for the gene pool. Nature rules.... and over time will clense itself.

At one time in history Marrage was done in the church,so wouldnt that make it a religious ceremony.So when did the goverment get into doing religious ceremonies?The church and its members have every right to fight this.And if the goverment is going to force churchs to marry gays then what happened to these lefts favorite saying "THE SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE".This country was founded on the TEN COMMANDMENTS and GOD.May Jesus bless the UNITED STATES of AMERICA

Californians had remedy and it worked. sore losers!

Re: "It Breaks my heart" California, voters KO gay marriage. California voters and the will of the people voted in record numbers to ban Gay marriage in that state as well as in Florida and Arizona. Now two hypocritical groups such as the American Civil Liberties union and Lambda legal defense want to overturn the will of the people. These two same groups for years have preached about people civil and constitutional rights being violated, now because they don't agree on the outcome, they in turn want to violate the will of the people by challenging the voter’s rights. The American civil liberties union and Lambda legal defense should except their defeat and move on but instead want to waste money, time and energy on a losing battle that they can't possibly win. I only hope and pray the court system will not allow the will of the people's votes to be overturned. I also hope and pray that New York City and New York State never allow gay marriage to pass and succeed and I will conti

I voted "present" on Prop 8. I really don't care. I thought about it a bit...my brain said yes on 8, but my heart said no on 8. So I left it to people more decisive that cared. Make a better case next time around. Stop crying, half of SFO voters didn't vote. I saw tons of "No on 8" people in the SFO area last weekend. How much more effective would it have been if they weren't preaching to the choir.

I read this article from the AP on yahoo and in it there was originally a paragraph about the racial divide in gay rights votes. I decided to send my friend a link to the article and wanted to include in the email a quote from the part that mentions the racial divide in the vote. But, suddendly, that paragraph was gone!! I thought maybe yahoo was censoring itself, so I googled the name of the article and checked at least 15 different sites, including this, and it was all the same. Apparently, the AP had second thoughts, was overcome by PC fear, and censored its own piece. It seems that they were afraid of offending blacks and Latinos. Funny, blacks and latinos were not afraid of offending gays on Nov. 4. But the Left is so trapped in PC that they will never deal with any issue honestly and opengly. Four years of this folks!!

Remember.. Children Are Not Born To Hate Or Discriminate They Are Taught!!

FIRST OF ALL., YOU CHRISTIANS "KNOW IT ALLS" WHO THINK YOU KNOW THE BIBLE SO WELL ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN USE IT TO DICTATE WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG FOR OTHERS., YOU ARE NOTHING BUT HYPOCRITES! YOU ARE IN NO POSITION TO TELL ME OR ANYONE WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG. I CHALLENGE ANY OF YOU TO A SCRIPTURAL DEBATE! INVITE YOUR PASTORS., YOUR SMARTEST BIBLE WARRIORS & I WILL BURRY YOU IN YOUR OWN IGNORANCE BECAUSE I AM A GAY MAN WHO KNOWS THE BIBLE. SOMEONE NEEDS TO SHUT YOU UP & GUESS WHAT? I'M THE MAN TO DO IT! LET EVERYONE HERE SEE FOR THEMSELVES JUST HOW RIDICULOUS YOUR BIBLE MENTALITY IS. BRING IT ON! AJ

Here are some civil rights cases and histroy has shown that the ones deprived of their rights under the 14th ammendment will always WIN. 1896: Plessey Vs Ferguson- A landmark decision of separate but equal. 1954: Brown vs Board of education. Separate but equal does not foster equality. I can go on and site so many civil right cases that went all the way to the Supreme Court. In essence, every American citizan has equal protection under the law. There are 8 protected classes in this country- Race, ethnicity, religion,color, nationanl origin, age, gender, familial status, and disability. With the onset of all these "anti-gay marriage" propositions, I won't be surprized if sexual orientation is added into the protected class due to future civil rights style lawsuits. Proponents of these divisive propositions should think twice. They may be dragged into future civil rights lawsuits if they keep "defending" marriage in the guise of denying gay Americans of their civil rights.

It makes me mad that these propositions force me to vote for or against the sanctity of marriage. All Americans have a right to be protected against discrimiation under the 14th amendment of the US constitution. Prop 8 and Prop 102, if approved, will open so many discriminatory bills against Gay Americans. What gay American couples simply want is to have the same civil rights protected under the law. Key word here is civil rights. All they are asking for is to have the same civil, taxation, property ownership, financial and estate/trust rights as married couples do. I am sure there are more "married couple" rights out there I missed. There is nothing wrong with having the same right as the next American, married, straight or gay. Civil rights are not reserved for just a chosen few. Civil rights are for all Americans regardless of race, sexual orientation, etc. Shame on those who support props 8 and 102 to call themselves Christians and yet deny others of their rights.

If your children go to private parochial school, you can kick gay people out of those schools. You would still have that right. But if Proposition 8 passes it will be taking rights away from certain people in our society. This will not be the destroyer of marriage. If a thousand gay people got married tomorrow, it would not affect my marriage in any way what so ever. I would still love my wife in the same way as I do now. This is a civil rights issue plain and simple, it is no more right to tell someone that they can not marry based on who they fall in love with, any more than telling someone they can not vote because of their gender or telling someone they can not marry because of the color of their skin. Proposition 8 is wrong no matter how many people claim it is fine.

A majority of people thought that was fine, it did not make it right. Before the 1960s there were several states in this land of ours that said a black man could not vote because of the color of his skin. They said that it was legal to make black people eat in different restaurants, drink from different water fountains and go to separate schools. There was no legal recourse, for a black family that had a member of their family lynched. The courts and police did nothing. It was illegal for a black man to marry across the color line, just because of the color of his skin. Just because a majority of people in the south thought that these things were acceptable, by no stretch of the imagination, ever made these things right. The majority can be in favor of something and be wrong.If you do not believe in gay marriage that is fine. You do not have to. You can ban gays and gay marriage in your churches. You can exclude gays from your family and your life. If your children go to priv

Dear Editor, Proposition 8 is wrong and so are the people who are behind it. They like to bandy about a couple of different slogans about why we should pass Proposition 8; that gay marriage will be taught in CA schools and that 61% of the voters agree with it. One of these statements is just not true and the other is irrelevant. There is nothing in the California Ed. Code that states that any kind marriage and or sex education will take place in the second grade or any other grade in grammar school for that matter. I have heard of no rush to print gay text books and rush them into our schools with no prior parent consent. This is just a ridiculous scare tactic that is untrue. As for 61% of Californians agreeing with the stand of Proposition 8, no matter if the statement is true or not, it is irrelevant. Just because a majority of a population is in favor of something does not make it right. In the not to distant past it was illegal for women to vote, just because of their gender.

Remember the cities of Sodom and Gommorah..?

if gay people can truly explain to the rest of the population what it means to be gay, then this can clear up a lot of misconceptions and prejudices. then maybe, just maybe, the marriage initiative can go through. some people still find this lifestyle reviling.

It used to be illegal for two people of opposite races to get married, women used to have no right to vote, minorities used to be legally segregated, the right to own slaves used to be a constitutionally protected right. Times do and must change and religion must not be counted in this argument, only what is fair. That means equal rights...for everybody!

Doesn't it seem odd that California voters have to ask permission from the State Supreme Court to engage in democracy, while the opponents of this measure are calling it a revsion not an amenmendment? Revise, amend , prepend, change, add, alter, whwatever, how about a free and fair election, up or down, just like we learned in grade shool?

the decline and fall of the united states look at rome we are folling the same path but thank god we still have a miltary that may have to save us from ourselves

America is on an unending slide downhill.

people should be able to live and love in peace. the nasty people need to find a sense of humor. I love SF!

I VOTE YES FOR GAY MARRIAGE . Love is a good thing . There's more to life than sex . That' all people who are against gay love think about is sex .

How does someone else's marriage (whatever its terms?)invalidate one's own?

good, Marco. you go ahead and divorce your girlfriend.. are you THAT stupid that the statement you just made is what REALLY makes marriage a corrupted, meaningless thing? seriously, it's the heterosexuals who have destroyed marriage, since so far, they have been the only ones allowed to get married..

Man to man and woman to woman marriage...the very thought gives me the creeps. I think I will get divorced from my opposite-sex wife because marriage is now a corrupted, meaningless thing. I liked her better as my girlfriend anyway. First they highjacked the word "gay", then the rainbow, now, marriage. Yuck.

There will always be people against equality. Remember when the Massachusetts State Supreme Court ruled to legalize gay marriage in 2003 Romney & his cronies tried everything to stop it but failed. Even after gay marriages were performed they tried to get an amendment on to the ballot until June 14th, 2007 when it was finally defeated in the State House. For those who are still uncomfortable with gay marriage check out our short produced to educate & defuse the controversy. It has a way of opening closed minds & provides some sanity on the issue: www.OUTTAKEonline.com

It is primarily religious groups who oppose gay marriage - even when the couple gains little more than the right to use the M word. America was founded by people who wanted freedom of religion; freedom from a government dictating their religious beliefs. America was founded as a country with separation of church and state, yet it is now the church trying to force the state to impose laws based on religious beliefs. People are free to follow their religious beliefs, but they are not free to force others to also believe as they do. We don't have a ban on pork just because some religions forbid it. We don't forbid divorce just because some religions forbid it. Women are not forced to wear head coverings. Marriage is a legal construct as well as a religious one and should, as all other religious practices, be free to exist outside of religious boundries.

One day we will all look back on those who opposed gay marriage just like those who opposed segregation, a womens right to vote or interracial marriage. All of these draconian laws used to be in the Constitution. SLAVERY used to be constitutionially legal for crying out loud! This just proves that times do and must change. Besides, as one comedian said, "If gay people want to get married and be as miserable as married straight people, then who am I to argue?" :)

well the poll came out of san fran what did you expect

the recent upheld is just raising their hopes. once it goes to the public to decide by the vote, they will be shot down. they're going up against family values, traditional laws, and the universal thinking that marriage is between a man and a woman and not harrington marrying another harrington.

I'm just trying to find out what the law is. Is it "Gay Marriage" or "Same Sex Marriage"? The news media seems to use these terms interchangeably; but they are not necessarily the same. Which is it?

I think if two people are in love why not get a marriage lic, gay people are sweet honest and it's just that they like the same sex so what! they are commited to their partners i disagree with what paul priore had to say.

Re: California Supreme Court Decision to approve Gay Marriage & Civil Unions. I am a Gay Man and I am totally against Gay Marriages and Civil Unions. I am outraged and very disappointed that Californian and any other state for that matter would approve and pass such a law. Gay people are not loyal to their partners; they profess their love but all the while they are cheating on their lovers behind their backs. We talk about unity, being loyal and so on but where are the Gay People supporting people that were discriminated against at their jobs, or while walking down the street or people that have Aids and other illnesses, you don’t see or hear them protesting that, why? I hope the people of California vote to strike down the California Supreme court decision to approve Gay Marriage this coming November. Gay People forget what Gay Pride is really about and what the struggles were. Gay People think that Gay Pride is only for getting drunk, doing drugs and dancing, wh

Me thinks there are many many more serious problems and issues to deal with. Who cares who marries who? Only small minded bigots. Leave gays alone and put your own house in order.

the two together with out any help can not have babies, and remember God made Adam and Eve not Adam and steve. also God made Adam and Eve not madam and Eve.

You are suppose to have babies with your wife ,not your friends!

June are you an idiot? We gay people can have babies. I, a gay man, can easily get a surrogate mother. Heck, I even have females friends who have offered to have my baby. Lesbians can be artificially inseminated. Your ignorance is STAGGERING. We are humans. Equal to you in every way and we deserve the rights associated with marriage. What about straight people who CAN'T have children because they are infertile? Are they somehow less than you? Somehow worthless? You come across like ignorant trash.And I am a better person then you!

I knew I could draw you all out ..Name callers tell on them selves.Your agenda is not the norm.Shame on you!

From 9:02 PM MST on Tue., Dec. 11, 2007 re: "Gay marriage case delayed by "friend-of-court" briefs" Examiner Reader said: The government should get out of marriage entirely. Straight or gay, we need good family law to protect children, we need contracts for interdependent relationships. Marriage is an important institution, but between church and state, it is church, and the state should get out of it. Rename the legal part something else for EVERYONE. And then argue about who gets to make such contracts.