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Dickey: A meeting of bad baseball minds

Aug 8, 2008 3:00 AM (115 days ago) by Glenn Dickey, The Examiner
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SAN FRANCISCO (Map, News) - When Brian Sabean and Ned Colletti renew their friendship before the start of the Giants-Dodgers series tonight, perhaps they can reflect on the fact that they’re two of the worst general managers in major league baseball.

Colletti got a huge gift last week when the Boston Red Sox shipped Manny Ramirez west. The Sox were tired of Ramirez’s antics, but the latest players poll in Sports Illustrated had David Ortiz and Ramirez as the two most feared clutch hitters — and the pitchers surveyed voted Manny No. 1.

For Dodgers fans, this deal was a welcome change from Colletti’s disastrous moves in free agency. In chronological order:

» After the 2006 season, he signed outfielder Juan Pierre to a five-year contract for $45 million. Pierre, whose only real asset is his base-stealing ability, has taken playing time from Matt Kemp, who is younger and better.

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» Before the 2007 season, he signed Nomar Garciaparra to a two-year contract for $18.5 million. Garciaparra has hit 12 homers and missed more than 100 games because of injuries.

» Also before the 2007 season, he signed Jason Schmidt to three years at $47 million. Even Sabean realized that Schmidt hadn’t been the same pitcher since he threw more than 140 pitches in a 16-strikeout game which tied the San Francisco record. He’s spent most of his time as a Dodger on the disabled list, winning one game.

» Before this year, he signed Andruw Jones to a two-year, $36.2 million contract. Jones had a terrible 2007 season, hitting a career-low .222 and 26 homers, just two seasons after he’d hit 51 homers. When a veteran player has a season like that in his free-agency year, it should raise a red flag. Not for Colletti. This year, Jones has had surgery and, when he’s healthy, has hit .164 with three homers, 14 RBIs and 73 strikeouts in 201 at-bats. Ouch!

Red flags don’t mean much to Sabean, either. When Ray Durham hit a career-high 26 homers at age 34, Sabean signed him to a new two-year contract. Durham hit 12 the next season.

When Randy Winn came to the Giants in midseason 2005, he had the best two months of his career. Already 31, Winn had first come up in 1998 and had never hit .300 in the majors, but he hit .359 for the Giants. His career high was 14 homers in a season and he had hit just six in 102 games for Seattle, but he hit 14 in 58 games for the Giants.

A talent evaluator might have thought ... hmmm, could it be because this was the first time National League pitchers had seen Winn? Apparently that never occurred to Sabean, who signed Winn to a four-year, $28 million contract starting in 2006. Winn has never approached that kind of production since. A four-hit day on Wednesday brought his average up to .284, but he has hit only five homers this year, hardly what you hope for from a corner outfielder.

That’s typical of Sabean’s dealings. He not only gives players too much money, but the contracts are too long, which makes them difficult to trade.

I’d love to be a bug on the wall today when Sabean and Colletti discuss their brilliant deals. Ah, well, they’ll probably discuss their postgame dinner plans instead. No sense reminding themselves of their stupidity.

Glenn Dickey has been covering Bay Area sports since 1963 and also writes on www.GlennDickey.com. E-mail him at glenndickey@hotmail.com.  

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11:48 AM MST on Wed., Aug. 13, 2008 re: "Dickey: Bonds towers above naysayers"

Examiner Reader said:
interesting and stimulating article... I am not sure about the idea Selig doen not want Bonds in baseball...

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5:40 PM MST on Tue., Aug. 12, 2008 re: "Dickey: Bonds towers above naysayers"

examiner reader said:
Bonds is as bogus as Ben Johnson, yet you rant on about him. Besides being pathetic in your unrequited admiration for him you have lost any and all objectivity about him. Barry Bonds, prior to the Mark Mcquire, Sammy Sosa era, was the ultimate five tool player. 6ft 1 inch tall 185 pounds he was without a doubt a first ballot Hall of Famer. Suddenly (in his early thirty's) he grows to 6-2 and 250 pounds. the fact is that you choose to ignore these facts by saying "he never failed a drug test" astounds me. We know that his trainer probably had a reason to stay in jail but i have absolutely no idea what yours is?

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4:53 AM MST on Fri., Aug. 8, 2008 re: "Dickey: A meeting of bad baseball minds"

Examiner Reader said:
It's time to move on... bring back the Bulldog! Orel would be a great GM, his ties to LA and the Dodgers runs deep. He's played, coached, worked in the front office of the Texas Rangers... So what are they waiting for. Time to rid the Dodgers of all the people Ned brought to LA, Stan Conte, can pack his bags too! quick before he throws another GM and owner under the bus to save his own skin!!!

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9:37 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Frantz: Bonds in New York would be morbid fun"

Examiner Reader said:
Frantz = Jim Rome wannabe

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5:31 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Dickey: Giants waited too long to deal"

Examiner Reader said:
what the giants need to do is to get her heads out there butt and get some solid bats.

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5:26 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Frantz: Bonds in New York would be morbid fun"

Examiner Reader said:
Hey Frantz: Barry Bonds isn't responsible for the hi price of gas or 4000+ soldiers killed in Iraq. In comparison, Barry's a saint.

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5:24 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Frantz: Bonds in New York would be morbid fun"

Examiner Reader said:
Hmmm...the media. Gotta love these hypocrites. Love to judge other people but think the media are a godsent to the masses.BB was an all-star long before the Bash Brothers started using steroids. Don't believe what the media tells you.

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5:21 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Frantz: Bonds in New York would be morbid fun"

Examiner Reader said:
What do you know about Barry Bonds? It was the media that killed the former Princess Diana. People like you.

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4:44 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Dickey: Giants waited too long to deal"

examiner reader said:
what a collection of mutts! the giants are the county pound of baseball!

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12:21 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Dickey: Giants waited too long to deal"

Examiner Reader said:
giants are a complete mess.. they dont know how to bring up young tallent and foster it into confident everyday players.. the organization for years has been built on established players.. it is kind of like a person who switches professions and has no clue have to work in the new arena.. the giants. baring a small miricle are in for years of a tough learning curve in terms of bringing up tallent.. but it is sooner better than latter.. hopefully the area of overpriced soso free agents is coming to an end

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10:42 AM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Dickey: Giants waited too long to deal"

Sam in Reno said:
As you point out, the truth will be told if Bowker (who leads the team in HR's) sits against left handers. If he has to play Aurilia put him at third and sit down that slug Castillo. Castillo is a bad fielder and mediocre hitter. There is a reason he was cut by Florida and Pitsburgh.I have never seen so many errors and doubles hit past this guy at third.

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10:07 AM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Frantz: Bonds in New York would be morbid fun"

Examiner Reader said:
You have no idea what this man has really accomplished until you pick up a bat and play at a level above little league...how about you just write about the game and leave the personal vendetta's out of it...

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2:11 PM MST on Mon., Jul. 21, 2008 re: "Frantz: Bonds in New York would be morbid fun"

John P Slevin said:
Finally, a writer who admits that coverage of Bonds is based on personality disputes he's had with writers. Sports writers who assail Bonds are far from reaching the level of excellence in their profession that Bonds has reached in his profession. They are supposed to be writing about baseball...not settling scores.

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9:22 AM MST on Mon., Jul. 21, 2008 re: "Frantz: Bonds in New York would be morbid fun"

Alameda said:
Jealous...I know your jealous...cause you have no skills...and Barry has set records...you WISH your little words could have the same power as a SPLAH HOMER...JealousI now your jealous

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9:43 AM MST on Sun., Jul. 20, 2008 re: "Dickey: An All-Star makeover"

Examiner Reader said:
Great observations and pretty basic. I think you'll find that most of us Fans agree with you.

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1:34 PM MST on Mon., Jul. 14, 2008 re: "Dickey: Giants are better off planning for future now"

Examiner Reader said:
This team is old as hell and Bochy and Sabean LOVE IT! Forget about evaluating the rookies, let go after thw NL West title while we're 12 games under .500. We're 7 games backs out of first but in reality we are 2 games out of being in LAST PLACE in the West. HELLO!!!! We're freaking closer to last place than we are to first.

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6:50 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 11, 2008 re: "Dickey: Giants are better off planning for future now"

Examiner Reader said:
they play the old guys because the other guys suck and wont get any better

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11:58 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 11, 2008 re: "Dickey: Giants are better off planning for future now"

Examiner Reader said:
Glenn, do you feel guilty about accepting a paycheck?

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10:04 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 11, 2008 re: "Dickey: Giants are better off planning for future now"

Examiner Reader said:
Come back Barry! All is forgiven.

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9:48 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 11, 2008 re: "Dickey: Giants are better off planning for future now"

Lloyd Christmas said:
Personally I think they gave vizquel and other veterans more playing time in order to try and get some value for them on the trade market. Vizquel is worth more with a swing than with out.

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