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Law works best in bad weather, study contends

Jun 30, 2008 3:00 AM (104 days ago) by Tamara Barak Aparton, The Examiner
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SAN FRANCISCO (Map, News) - Despite its relatively weak penalties, California’s hands-free law should save 300 lives each year, based on the drop in fatalities in other states that passed similar laws.

The prediction is based on a Public Policy Institute of California study released May 12, which found that the law will have the greatest effect when the weather is bad or the roads are wet.

Research fellow and study author Jed Kulko said the 300 lives saved would represent a 7 percent decline in the more than 4,000 deaths each year on California roads.

Kulko found that cell phone ownership appears to raise the number of traffic deaths — but only in bad weather. After hands-free laws were passed in other states, fatalities in adverse conditions dropped 30 percent to 60 percent.

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One possible explanation for the drop in fatalities is that drivers find hands-free headsets and earpieces cumbersome, and use their phones less often as a result, Kulko said. Motorists in hands-free states may also be choosing to use their wireless minutes during times when driving conditions are good, he said.

“It’s also possible that having such a law serves an educational function. It warns people about the dangers of chatting while you drive,” he said.

tbarak@sfexaminer.com

Q&A

The California Highway Patrol answers your questions about the new laws.

What is the fine for the first offense? $100 counting the base fine, assessments and fees for a first offense; up to $190 for a second offense.

When is the law in effect? Tuesday

Are you allowed to dial to make a call? Yes, but it is illegal to place the phone to your ear while talking.

What about text messaging? State Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, has introduced legislation that would ban text messaging by all drivers beginning Jan. 1.

What about passengers? The law applies only to drivers.

Can you use your phone if it has a built-in speaker? Yes.

Would a violation be counted as a point on your record? No

Source: California Highway Patrol

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3:10 PM MST on Thu., Sep. 11, 2008 re: "Put your cell phone down and drive — or face the penalties"

Examiner Reader said:
Interesting, this law was a result of lobbying by the company that owns the rights to "Bluetooth". Most people don;t realize this and think it is to "promote public safety". Probably just as many people crash reaching for things in their cars as they do talking on the phone.

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2:21 PM MST on Mon., Jun. 30, 2008 re: "Law works best in bad weather, study contends"

Examiner Reader said:
I found out from a friend that the $25 dollar fine is not that but the first fine is actually going to be $50, second going to be $100 (which will actually be $150 in fine), etc.

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1:43 PM MST on Mon., Jun. 30, 2008 re: "Law works best in bad weather, study contends"

Mumia said:
You can't tame elephants when driving, but unfortunatly nobody does it. You can't launch a space shuttle while driving, but unfortunately nobody does it. Bay Area Taxpayer trots out the usual irrelvant comparisons that irresponsible narcissists always use: specious and irrelevant comparisons to unrelated issues. The only area where this individual and this individuals ilk come close to truth is in lamenting the laughable 25.00 ticket. I agree; it should be 250.00. And it should be a 2,500,000.00 if you kill all of your girlfirends on graduation night while texting in your SUV.

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1:30 PM MST on Mon., Jun. 30, 2008 re: "Put your cell phone down and drive — or face the penalties"

Bay Area Taxpayer said:
Okay, okay, I'll put down down my cell phone and pick up my new Norelco shaver ... works great in 101 traffic !!!

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1:10 PM MST on Mon., Jun. 30, 2008 re: "Law works best in bad weather, study contends"

Bay Area Taxpayer said:
You can't drink beer in an open can while driving ... but unfortunately people do it all the time. You can't smoke dope in a car ... but unfotunately people do it all the time. Most cities in California are bankrupt or nearlly bankrupt so writing a ticket for like $25 is just another way to raise money courtesy of the California taxpayer/driver. A ticket is just another tax to pay. How about eating a sandwich while driving ? How about having a heated argument about something while driving ? Those should also be ticket infractions. Whenever you complain about not having enough cops on patrol to take care of crime you're always given the excuse "that all officers are busy out there with more serious crimes instead of barking dogs, vandalism, etc." Tomorrow just wait, every officer available will be on overtime (if needed)just to write tickets so as to fill their cities coffers to the brim with this easy money !!! Who will be assigned more serious crimes like mismanaging city funds

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1:04 PM MST on Mon., Jun. 30, 2008 re: "Law works best in bad weather, study contends"

Examiner Reader said:
Stop whining all you cell babies, get over it, its the law July 1, 2008. Get used to it.

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9:50 AM MST on Mon., Jun. 30, 2008 re: "Law works best in bad weather, study contends"

Examiner Reader said:
Brussels Belgium's not L.A. the average street allows for two cars abreast (1 car one way 1 car the other) however, I saw a woman yakking her mouth away on her cell driving a SUV and she didn't even realize she was going thru a red light doing abt 20 mph she was moving her head, laughing and just kept on going, this one I heard from a bartender who told me one of his customer complaining his wife wrecked the car as he explained she said it wasn't her fault as she was lighting a cigarette while talking to her cell, she ran into a parked car...

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5:08 AM MST on Mon., Jun. 30, 2008 re: "Put your cell phone down and drive — or face the penalties"

Danno said:
The legislatures are intruding more and more into the smallest details of life. I would suggest the best form of protest for this law is to get a wooden block or other object that looks like a cell phone and hold it to your ear if a traffic patrol car nears. Keep them guessing about whether motorists have actual cell phones or some other object in their ear.

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6:20 PM MST on Wed., Jun. 25, 2008 re: "County seeking a bridge between cyclists, safety"

Examiner Reader said:
Interesting read-- some quibbles-- narrow lanes actually represent a case where the cyclist is better off not trying to share. The issue is more the perception of safety, rather than actual safety. The article perpetuates the fear that cyclists will be rear ended. The real advantage is that automobile drivers can tune out

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12:47 PM MST on Tue., Jun. 24, 2008 re: "County seeking a bridge between cyclists, safety"

Gladwyn d'Souza said:
The energy output between autos and bikes are orders of magnitude apart. Its much easier for autos to have to go miles between connections. Yet the county planning agency in CCAG has managed to turn the energy matrix on its head. By making low energy modes like bicycles, walking face hardship through the wall of 101 county planning has built in congestion, pollution, and driving as the only alternative with our tax dollars. Ralston 101 is just the most recent example where cyclists are penalized today for infrastructure promised in the unforseeable future as the state faces budget cuts. The 2000 interchange downgrade for bicyclist in favor of the planned bike bridge over 101 is now 8 years unrealized and the $7M is like a big pollution cloud hazing up the future. The funding available means the buildout of connected streets for bikes and peds won't happen for another 325 years when the planet will be much the worse off for bad plannng witho our tax dollars today.

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5:14 PM MST on Thu., Feb. 21, 2008 re: "Crime-fighting plan focuses on Annapolis"

Examiner Reader said:
yo'malley can bring fat over paid pat jessamy to prosecute and lenny 'bankruptcy" hamm as police chief. the criminals would laugh themselves to death.

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3:05 AM MST on Sat., Feb. 16, 2008 re: "Pedestrian-related deaths jumped in 2007"

Examiner Reader said:
Another NON ISSUE hitting the newspaper. In 2000, there were 32 deaths. Last year, 24, the exact same amount as in 2003. What is the issue?

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4:55 PM MST on Fri., Feb. 15, 2008 re: "Pedestrian-related deaths jumped in 2007"

Examiner Reader said:
Hey 1:16, senior citizens don't run. If they could, they wouldn't be hit so often by drivers who are going too fast and not paying attention. Sure, a lot of pedestrians behave badly or just aren't as cautious as they should be, but anyone who drives a two-ton projectile should take this into account and imagine their own grandmother trying to cross the street.

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12:07 PM MST on Fri., Feb. 15, 2008 re: "Pedestrian-related deaths jumped in 2007"

Examiner Reader said:
do these reports also reflect the amount of people stepping out with out looking the very second the light turns green and walking against traffic lights and my personal favorite stepping out in traffic to see if a bus is coming and i swear 6 people will step out in 5 minutes to see if the same bus is coming i drive in the city and have had all these close calls with pedestrians and bycycle riders it is sometimes ridiculous to se what these people do . cell phone talkinfg and being unaware isthe same as a driver unaware when there on the phone and then there are ipods so now they are dear and unaware what the hell its not just the autos at fault but SF being what it is we always go that way try that walking against a light in VEGAS you will surely be run down and it is usually the pedestrians fault remember being a kid look both ways DUH ITS ONLY LESS THAN 5 SECONDS OUT OF A LIFE CHANGING SITUATION

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6:19 PM MST on Sat., Jan. 26, 2008 re: "Woman hit by bus may have broken both legs"

Seven said:
Umm, how much more accountable would you like to make this pedestrian?

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1:16 PM MST on Sat., Jan. 26, 2008 re: "Woman hit by bus may have broken both legs"

Examiner Reader said:
And this is why pedestrians need to be held accountable for their actions as well. I'm a pedestrian, and you'd never see me running out into traffic like an idiot.

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