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No uniforms in schools in Harford next year

May 26, 2008 12:00 AM (140 days ago) by Mike Silvestri, The Examiner
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BALTIMORE (Map, News) - Students in Harford won’t be wearing uniforms next year.

Potential outfits and schools were expected to be discussed by June, but officials now say the School Uniform Committee will continue gathering public opinion next school year.

“There will be no school uniform policy that will come out this year for next year,” said school spokesman Don Morrison.

“They found so far a really mixed bag as far as the effectiveness of uniforms and whether people think they’re worth the effort.”

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The 25-member uniform committee, which includes parents, teachers and administrators, has made several presentations to the Board of Education and is set to go to each school to share its findings with the community, Morrison said.

Schools officials had hoped to study uniforms this year so the board could decide whether to require them for next school year.

In December, the school system surveyed parents, teachers, administrators and students in grades six through 12 to assess the pros and cons of uniforms, which they say could foster better academics, school pride and stronger resistance to gangs.

Only 22 percent of students supported uniforms, but 58 percent of parents and 80 percent of administrators favored them, according to the survey.

“It’s still very much alive,” Morrison said, “but it’s not imminent.”

Meanwhile, students at Harford’s alternative education school have embraced their uniforms of khaki pants and black shirts.

“At the beginning of the year, I thought it wasn’t going to work well, but we have had no problems at all,” said Fran Powers, an administrative assistant at the school in Aberdeen.

The committee is expected to report back to the board next spring.

msilvestri@baltimoreexaminer.com

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7:32 AM MST on Wed., Oct. 8, 2008 re: "Uniforms backed by parents, opposed by most students"

Examiner Reader said:
For those of you in favor, let's address the "real issue" anyone that doesn't fit in your "box" you want to control!! This is not a real preparation for the real world when we send them off to college. How about the parents getting more involved, I'm tired of everyone having to change things because of the few "bad" students or the few parents who first complain. The majority are not involved with gangs, address these few students and take control!! Just imagine if we stiffled the creative minds and individuality of Einstein, Monet,Mozart,just to name a few. They all did not fit in your the "box"!!!!

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5:24 PM MST on Wed., Sep. 24, 2008 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

Examiner Reader said:
Good parents= Good kids, bad parents= bad kids, you just can't get around that. Parents have the child for the 1st 6-7 yrs before the school even sees them. There vocabulary and behavior r a direct reflection on their household. The school has the kid for 8 hrs a day while the parent has the other 16. that's 8 hrs a day for a 5 day school wk, ppl. 7 days x 24 hrs=168hrs (40 hrs @ school; 128 hrs at home). There are 180 8 hr schools days in a 365 day yr. 8hr days times 180 school days equal 60 days of time, the other 305 are the parent's reponsiblity. How is it that a single mother working 60-70 hrs per wk @ 2 jobs can do a better job than some1 on welfare who stays home all day? The answer is that 1 understands RESPONSIBILITY & the other does not. No amount of funding or govt. expertise can fix this problem. What is needed is a good revolution in attitude to a return of good old fashion parenting. Even Bill Cosby & Obama acknowledge this. Geez I hate character limits, don't you.

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7:24 PM MST on Sat., Jul. 19, 2008 re: "No uniforms in schools in Harford next year"

Examiner Reader said:
I have a son in Aberdeen Middle School school uniforms are a great idea. Students need to focus more on their education not on fashion. Spending the rest of their time picking on the children that are less fortunate.

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10:24 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 11, 2008 re: "State passes over local nominees for school board"

Examiner Reader said:
Hass is the problem not the BOE selection process.

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8:05 AM MST on Thu., Jul. 10, 2008 re: "State passes over local nominees for school board"

concerned said:
I do not feel it is the selection process for BOE members which matters. The real concern should be Superindendent Hass. Goes outside the system to hire administrators showing she has no policy in effect to train future administrators. Or is it present and possibly future administrators see through her incompentencies and may expose her, such as Mr. Battaglia. There are questions amongst presnt admininistrators as to who wrote and researched her,Hass,doctorate theis. Dr. Hass talks a good game put produces nothing. Look a the doubling of the school budget in the years she has been in control. Look at her salary and benefits. Remember when she was hired it was to be only temporary. The children have suffered greatly under Hass.

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5:57 AM MST on Wed., Jul. 9, 2008 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

Examiner Reader said:
Harford County School System should be monitored and this issue should be addressed, I had a child that attended a school in this system as far back as 1998 and tried to address this issue with the board who just brushed me off. I feel this should be and ongoing monitoring by local organizations to show the real problems that African American Students do face in this county, you can see many issue that are not address and this county and we wonder why we experincing so many problems more than ever. I read a quote from the bible: Whatever we sow so shall we reap, with barriers, walls, and those who feel social status or material status is more than addressing the rooted issues of Harford County we will still have these problems for years to come. Drugs, crimes, gangs, racism, etc. If we don't change our ways in this county we will be trying to fight issue we only created. Establish more programs for unity in this county and not a mind set of seperation and money to define us.

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5:18 AM MST on Wed., May. 28, 2008 re: "Council OKs nominating panel for school board"

Examiner Reader said:
Isn't it ironic that both Councilwoman Mary Ann Lasanti and NAACP opposed the measure because it gives politicians, rather than voters, the power to make the recommendations to the governor. VP Jerome Foster vice president of Harford’s NAACP, said he opposed the committee because it would not accurately reflect the will of the voters or represent the demographic makeup of Harford. Isn't that what we have been trying to say all along?

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2:15 PM MST on Mon., May. 26, 2008 re: "Harford board does about-face on high school reform plan"

Examiner Reader said:
Harford County keeps implementing policies and changes without really examining the impact of them. What are uniforms really going to do to boost student achievement? They changed the extracurricular ineligibility policy 2 years ago and claim that it is working because a few schools have dropped a couple of percentage points (Route 40 schools all hover around 50-60%!) If they were really interested in helping students, they would use the information to analyze trends to see if students are failing the same class, same teachers, a student continuously fails, etc. They also should be looking at whether or not the student has tried to get help in the past from HCPS and has been unsuccessful. Additionally, there are some teachers in the school system who are horrific and several principals too - many of whom are in the high schools. Until they look at the data to address some of inherent problems with themselves, they shouldn't be making the students wear uniforms.

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4:50 AM MST on Mon., May. 26, 2008 re: "No uniforms in schools in Harford next year"

Examiner Reader said:
No uniforms in schools in Harford next year?

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1:14 PM MST on Fri., May. 23, 2008 re: "Edgewood school gets new principal"

concerned said:
The problem shows itself when the school system hires a principal from out-of-state. Why wasn't the school system training people to fill these positions. The problem is not the kids, parents, teachers but the BOE failing to prepare staff for leadership positons. This is the same school system that made a shop teacher head of school construction and a superindendent who is an excellent example of the "Peter Principle"...everyone rises to their level of imcompetence.

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8:55 AM MST on Wed., May. 21, 2008 re: "Edgewood school gets new principal"

Examiner Reader said:
Deadwood sucks, I would not have my kids go to Deadwood even if they offered me a million dollars.

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11:46 AM MST on Fri., May. 9, 2008 re: "Harford board does about-face on high school reform plan"

Examiner Reader said:
You see, here precisely is the reason why Harford County's delegation to the General Assembly (are you reading, Dulaney-James? Reilly?) did such a huge disservice to the citizens of the county by failing to get a completely elected school board through the legislature. An elected board, beholden to the voters -- i.e., the parents -- of Harford County instead of to the governor or his hack political cronies, could have followed through on the disapprovals voiced by every significant review constituency and killed this thing in the bud. But no: Our educational elite will ram it through, and down not only our kids' throats, but their parents' as well, regardless of any objection. Makes me wonder how I survived a public school education in Harford County.

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8:36 PM MST on Tue., May. 6, 2008 re: "Parents fault Abingdon school over handling of gun incident"

Examiner Reader said:
To the reader 3 down from this one 1. get your facts correct. It was two air soft weapons 2. Both a First grader AND A Fourth Grader (brother's at that) not a fifth grader as you stated. 2. I just wonder if it would have been your child on that bus or in the class would you feel so lax. 3. What if the guns went off (yes, they were loaded) and hit the bus driver and the entire bus crashed into one of the homes, in a ditch or whatever, I'm sorry you have no business being a parent if you can write something like that! 4. And it wasn't a "toy" it is considered a WEAPON for a darn good reason. Look up the statistics before you go and shoot of your mouth!

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9:33 PM MST on Mon., May. 5, 2008 re: "Abingdon parents demand forum on pellet gun cover-up"

Examiner Reader said:
I was once a major part of this school. This doesn't sound like what once went on at this school. The administration of the past would have been more opened with the community. This is a community school. One of the county's best. Ms. Spence, it's time to hang it up. You are a poor leader!

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6:15 AM MST on Mon., May. 5, 2008 re: "Harford board does about-face on high school reform plan"

Examiner Reader said:
Is the pool of administrators and principals in Harford County really that shallow? That the principals would appear before the BOE and reiterate their support, state that test scores are up, and dropout rates are low is just one more example of the principals closing ranks to tow the company line. The survey results clearly state that the implementation of CSSRP had NOTHING to do with the improved scores. The principals also failed to address that since the implementation of CSSRP that AP and SAT scores have dropped. The only people who haven't drunk the kool-aid are the teachers, parents, and students.

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10:25 PM MST on Fri., May. 2, 2008 re: "Parents fault Abingdon school over handling of gun incident"

Examiner Reader said:
a toy gun. parents take a minute to realize that no one was hurt in this incident, it was a 5th grader with a toy gun.

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8:00 AM MST on Wed., Apr. 30, 2008 re: "Abingdon parents demand forum on pellet gun cover-up"

Examiner Reader said:
Wow, how is it WSJ parents received an "Alert Now" about ANOTHER Asthma attack within HOURS of a Code Orange Lock Down? What happened the two guns in school and on a bus doesn'that warant immediate notification! Where is the common sense of this Principle! Obviously, she has NONE! About 4 weeks ago there was another "Alert Now" for this same child for the first Asthma attack! That is one of the MANY reasons parents are so disgusted at the fact we were not notified of these weapons! Yes, there were TWO!! Both brothers. Then when parents directly asked Ms. Spence, Principle (so titled, not in actions), she totally DENIED any incident to parets in person at the school and through telephone calls to the school. This "administrator" must be held accountable for her actions! Spence needs to practice what she preachs in the school motto or better yet LEAVE, and let someone MORE qualified to do the job! We can't even feel SAFE to send our kids to this school! Where are our rights as parents

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12:03 PM MST on Mon., Apr. 28, 2008 re: "Abingdon parents demand forum on pellet gun cover-up"

Examiner Reader said:
Ok, I understand this was a toy gun, but don't toy guns sometimes look real. So why in the world would any Principal who has the responsibility to ensure the safety of our children ,deny this info to the parents and staff? What else has been denied to these parents at this school.So where do you go when you are denied info. from the one person who is responsible for your kids at school ? Can you say " Boundary Exception ".I would consider that if my kids went to that school.

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11:54 AM MST on Mon., Apr. 28, 2008 re: "Abingdon parents demand forum on pellet gun cover-up"

Examiner Reader said:
Why is there a need to keep this gun issue in our schools a secret.Don't us parents at William S. James elementary (Most of whom volunteer our time and energy for this Principal)earn the right to hear about things that may affect our childrens safety? Are we only notified when they need our money or help.Come on people,you have to work with the parents if you want a successful school environment for these kids and by the look of the test scores,You have not been doing much to improve that relationship.This is our future that we are talking about.So Yes ,you do need to inform us about every little petty detail(as you stated) to us concerned and dedicated parents.

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5:24 AM MST on Sun., Apr. 27, 2008 re: "Schools chief places blame for reform’s bad rep"

Examiner Reader said:
This is the MO of the HCPS. They will not solicit nor accept input from anyone but a few special interest groups. Take the Edhewood MS reform plan. This plan is doomed to fail, because there is no community input or support. The community (other than the special interest groups) were not afforded the opportunity to participate. If parents of the students are not involved this plan and all of the money targeted to improving this school will have been in vain. When will the educators learn?

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12:16 PM MST on Sat., Apr. 26, 2008 re: "Parents fault Abingdon school over handling of gun incident"

Examiner Reader said:
I heard from a middle schooler at Dumbarton, that there is a gang presence there! In Towson! The little monsters also brought in a gun and a knife and were involved in a fight in the cafeteria, only last week! Why have we not heard about this?

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7:21 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 25, 2008 re: "Abingdon parents demand forum on pellet gun cover-up"

Examiner Reader said:
A Principal has to take ownership over the concerns of her students and their parents. This Principal has to earn the respect of a community by speaking openly to all concerned here. Denial will only fester an open wound.

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3:02 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 25, 2008 re: "Parents fault Abingdon school over handling of gun incident"

Examiner Reader said:
Goodway to get killed by a cop, Those guns look real. I saw one that looked just like my Glock, if you put both side by side you would not be able to tell the apart. Parents need to monitor what their kids are taking to school. Kids don't have rights in your house, dump their bags and search their rooms. Parents now these days are out of touch with their childern, thay don't know what their kids are doing, who their hanging with or whats in thier rooms. Wake up parents take control of your kids and stop letting them control you. BE PRO-ACTIVE NOT RE-ACTIVE

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9:16 AM MST on Fri., Apr. 25, 2008 re: "Abingdon parents demand forum on pellet gun cover-up"

Examiner Reader said:
I agree 110% with Nikki Gorski & Mr. Lloyd. We as parents should have been notified about this issue. What are we teaching our children.... HIDE THINGS FROM OUR PARENTS..... come on Mrs. Spence..... what if this "TOY GUN" went off in school or on the bus and hit a kid in the eye or the bus driver... how then would we have been notified??? Shame on you MRS. SPENCE. We are notified when our kids hair is not properly cut but, not when "TOY GUNS" or brought to school....The school sure has changed and so have the parents attitudes and I have been a parent there for sometime now.....

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9:05 AM MST on Fri., Apr. 25, 2008 re: "Abingdon parents demand forum on pellet gun cover-up"

Examiner Reader said:
I do feel that something needs to be done about this gun issue ,so that the school and the school board can handle this situation if it should happen again in the future. William S. James has a motto for the school that every student says every morning during announcements.It is "that everyone is responsible for their own actions". I wish Ms. Spence would take some of her own advice. Practice what you preach.

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4:59 AM MST on Thu., Mar. 13, 2008 re: "Let the band play on, school board says"

Examiner Reader said:
I checked with state property records. The homeowner purchased the property in October 2005. The school was there first. Don't move next to a high school if you don't want the noise. What next, ask them to give up Friday night football games?

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5:30 PM MST on Tue., Mar. 4, 2008 re: "School board to set out guidelines for uniforms"

Examiner Reader said:
What about the junior and seniors, why should I as a parent have to go out and spend money on clothes that they will only where for part of the year. If you are going to implement this I think the older classmen should be exempt for the first two years. Or let the school board send home a check with each student to supply the uniforms. I buy my child clothes he can wear to school and also outside of school, I dont have the money for multiple warobes.

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6:08 AM MST on Tue., Feb. 19, 2008 re: "School board to set out guidelines for uniforms"

Examiner Reader said:
That's right. Teachers and parents both got survey forms - one as an employee and one (or more) as a parent that came home with their child(ren). How can you trust the results of such a "survey?" Now there's a good story!

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6:04 AM MST on Tue., Feb. 19, 2008 re: "School board to set out guidelines for uniforms"

Examiner Reader said:
Teachers who are parents got two votes in favor of uniforms. We are parents of two kids and are against uniforms. We think the schools should simply enforce the current dress code insted of ignoring it, and let the kids choose their attire.

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2:46 PM MST on Fri., Feb. 15, 2008 re: "School board to set out guidelines for uniforms"

Examiner Reader said:
FINALLY a public school system with some common sense. Now, show some guts, make uniforms mandatory through high school, and implement it next September. White or blue shirts, gray slacks/skirts, keep it simple.

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3:04 AM MST on Thu., Jan. 10, 2008 re: "Let the band play on, school board says"

Examiner Reader said:
I would much rather have these kids on the band field doing something good like learning how to play music and work together then roaming the streets of my neighborhood, my goodness the person who lodged this complaint really needs to sit down and enjoy the music. You can always sell your house and move, leave the kids alone

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7:15 AM MST on Wed., Jan. 9, 2008 re: "Let the band play on, school board says"

Examiner Reader said:
I would be interested in knowing whether the house/owner of the house or the school was there first. If the owner knowingly bought next to a school, noise should be expected. I know a school band can be loud, but how close is the house to the practice area? Is the homeowner simply complaining because it's not absolutely quiet? Or is there a real gripe? Perhaps the school could accommodate an earlier end to the noise, like 8pm instead of 9pm.

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4:12 AM MST on Wed., Jan. 9, 2008 re: "Let the band play on, school board says"

Examiner Reader said:
DUH - if you live near a school, there will be, I absolutely promise, be noise. The taxpayers should not foot the bill for the trees, the homeowner is free to do that if he so desires. I have chosen to live next door and down the street from 2 schools over a 10 year period. The advantages outweighed the noise.

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6:22 AM MST on Wed., Dec. 26, 2007 re: "Aberdeen Parent: School board creates ‘classism’"

Examiner Reader said:
I take exception to the parent stating that Harford Tech is an elitist school. The kids attending Harford Tech had to apply for the school, maintain good grades throughout middle school, and be interviewed prior to being accepted into the school. There are plenty of kids from Belair and Fallston that also attend Tech. It has nothing to do with what school they previously attended because these kids were good students to begin with so matter what school they attended they would be peforming well. Its just like the math academy at Aberdeen, the kids have to apply and are accepted so is the math academy also an elitist school

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6:10 AM MST on Wed., Dec. 26, 2007 re: "Uniforms backed by parents, opposed by most students"

Examiner Reader said:
Its a shame that parents do not support the teachers and adminstators of our schools. I find it hard to believe that a teacher would want to see any student fail its a reflects on them as teachers. The problem is some kids just dont care and should not be in the school to begin with. When I went to school the bullies and the ones that were always in trouble had to deal with consequences for thier actions, yes some were even expelled. We are teaching the kids that you can not do what is expected and there is no consequence at all, you can disrepect authority and not have a consequence, this will carry over into adulthood and we will continue the cycle of failure. School is for learning first and foremost. If parents would insist thier child do thier best and be respectful to teachers and other students these problems would go away. I still say the problem starts at home and we are dumping the problem on the schools to make our children learn proper behavior. Teachers are there to teach

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8:48 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 25, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

Examiner Reader said:
The problem is not more money, social conditions, or poor teachers. The problem is the student, the parents, and a black culture that discourages educational excellence. It is a huge positive if banning performing students from extra curricular activities gets their attention. They need to understand that failing grades have bad consequences both in school and in life.

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8:01 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 25, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

Examiner Reader said:
While I have some agreement with the last reader I do not believe that this issue is that simple. History shows again and again that higher level academics suffer when distractions abound. Disruptive behavior and lack of "social conformity" shift resources from academics to dealing with these distractions. In my belief kids today don't respect authority because our educators no long HAVE authority. Our rules have shifted to favor the disruptors and not the educators. Frequently when behavioral issues are brought to a student's parent(s) we find the parent(s) defending the child vs. the educator. We find that removing students for chronic violations has become difficult if not impossible and that the standard for accepable behavior deteriorates each passing year. I further believe that the diminishing percentage of stable 2 parent households is the greatest driver of these trends. I cannot site study results to prove my beliefs, but I'll looking at both school environs would offer pr

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6:37 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 25, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

Examiner Reader said:
I would suggest that students in schools with high African American populations do not get the same focus on education that students in affluent schools do. The per pupil expenditure at county schools are all the same but is the quality of the teaching force being hired the same? Do blue chip new/experienced teachers want to go to low performing schools? Do teachers within the system seek to leave high performing schools to go to low performing ones? Does the teachers union anywhere encourage teacher stability at low performing schools? Do schools with high African American populations worry about cell phones, hats and pants hanging down more or is their focus purely academic? Clearly when behavior and dress and social conformity are the priority does academics take a back seat? Clearly the question for all parents is does your child's school prepare them more for Yale(clear focus on higher level academics) or Jail (clear focus on social conformity/behavior change). Oh my where to liv

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5:21 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 25, 2007 re: "Uniforms backed by parents, opposed by most students"

Examiner Reader said:
my only problem with the whole uniform thing is if you have a child in 10th or 11th grade I dont want to spend the money on something he or she will never wear outside of school. If you dont have the money for the uniforms who is going ot pay for them, I know it seems like a dumb question but some of us are struggling just to get food on the table. Some suggestions may help

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5:17 AM MST on Tue., Dec. 25, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

Examiner Reader said:
Part of the problem with some of these schools is the kids just dont respect authority and where do they learn respect. Its at home, why should teachers have to spend most of the class requesting the kids to be quiet and listen, only to be talked back to, eventually having to be removed from the class. I am a parent who has gone to the schools to sit in on class only to hear students tell a teacher and I quote "you aint my daddy" when asked to remove a winter coat, which by the way they are not allowed to wear in class. What is that, you have girls going to other girls houses to beat her up because of a boy, what is that? Parents its time to wake up and realize teachers are not there to teach your childern respect or morals or even the want to learn, this comes from the home and its time you did your part. Teachers deserve respect and are not your daytime babysitters to keep your kids off the streets. HOw are these kids ever going to suceed in the job market or in just living.

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11:05 AM MST on Thu., Dec. 20, 2007 re: "Uniforms backed by parents, opposed by most students"

Examiner Reader said:
Who then will this selected board of education listen to-the parents (tax payers) or the students?

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9:51 AM MST on Wed., Dec. 19, 2007 re: "Uniforms backed by parents, opposed by most students"

harford schools are great said:
I just moved to Harford county in March.I think harford county have execellent schools and teachers.One thing my wife and I noticed is how much these teachers really care for our childred.We have childred at all levels.Even though we wish we'd never purchased a home in Edgewood, we have no complaints about the schools.

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8:37 AM MST on Wed., Dec. 19, 2007 re: "Uniforms backed by parents, opposed by most students"

Examiner Reader said:
I believe school uniforms are a good way to help students see school as preparation for their adult lives. It's a "dress rehearsal" in a sense, so uniforms are the costumes. School uniforms do not have to be boring or ugly! Students should take part in planning and designing their school uniform, with guidelines set by parents and schools. This whole process will be a good introduction to the world of work. Go for it!!

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10:20 AM MST on Sat., Dec. 1, 2007 re: "Survey offers parents and students voice on uniforms"

Examiner Reader said:
If parents are paying attention this the issue of school uniforms, there is no factual/scientific fact that school uniforms cures the social ills plaguing most of our urban school districts. Also there are some districts that have abandoned the idea of school uniforms because of Constitution violation etc. Children are disciplined disproportionately if they are made to wear school uniforms and parental rights are diminished. Read Dr. David Brunsma studies (he has done a 10 year study on school uniform).

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8:32 AM MST on Fri., Sep. 14, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

John said:
The Examiner apparently failed statistics. Predominantly black means that the overwhelming population of the school would be black; like say 85%. Of these three schools, the most one can say is that the populations are about half black and white. If one didn't know better, one would suspect the Examiner is trying to stir up a problem where one doesn't now exist.

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6:50 AM MST on Thu., Sep. 13, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

RayRay said:
People continue to say that African American children a failing at a yhigher rate. Question, what are the parents doing to ensure that their chjildren a receiving a quality education. If you survey the parents most will probably not have a clue as to what their children are doing. Some of the problems maybe economics but if oparents care they will ensure that their children are receiving aquality education and if they are failing then they should get off their butts and visiti the school to find out what they can do to assist. People fail to remember that if the parents are not involved then you will have another sorry buch of folks going into main stream society.

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6:03 PM MST on Wed., Sep. 12, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

Examiner eader said:
We keep looking for excuses. The fact of the matter is, our kids are in school to get an education. They have every opportunity to excel in each of their classes. If they need help, there is coach class, tutoring, and the buddy system that they can use to help them. The average practice last 2-3 hours, so the students don't get home until the evening. They have dinner, do their homework, and it's time for bed. This doesn't give the average student ample time to prepare for things like quizes and tests. Extra curricular activities should be treated as a reward for maintaining passing grades in all of their classes. Some will disagree with me. My son goes to a school in Baltimore City, and I believe they are allowed to fail 1 class. If my son fails a class, I will not permit him to participate in any sport. When the grades get back to the passing level, we try again. The parents must monitor their childs progress. This will help keep them on the right track.

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3:18 PM MST on Wed., Sep. 12, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

Examiner Reader said:
It all lies with the parents of these kids. Its that simple. You can,t just keep throwing money at it.

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2:19 PM MST on Wed., Sep. 12, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

Say What said:
The students in these schools would be really mad if they could read this article.

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10:50 AM MST on Wed., Sep. 12, 2007 re: "Half of kids at predominantly black schools get failing grades"

HarfordNow.com said:
These statistics are just sad. What can be done differently in the Route 40 schools to get the grades up?

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