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May 23, 2008 12:00 AM (107 days ago) by Mike Silvestri, The Examiner
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BALTIMORE (Map, News) - A man fired a barrage of bullets at a crowded Westminster street corner four years ago, and Carroll County soon learned gangs had arrived.

Brian Hill eluded authorities for about five months after firing multiple shots from his handgun just before midnight in September 2004. He targeted several people believed to be associated with gangs who were standing outside and had gotten into an argument with Hill’s friend. Hill’s gunshots did not hit anyone, but the 21-year-old is still serving time in jail.

“That was the first incident that really put gangs on the radar screen,” said Jennifer Darby, senior assistant state’s attorney in Carroll.

Since that assault, gangs have grown more prominent in Carroll, mostly an influx of members of the Bloods and Crips, although last year fewer than 5 percent of crimes in Carroll were gang-related.

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The county will hold its first gang symposium today to educate law enforcement officials and residents about gang members who could be living in their community.

“I think there’s more gang actions than people realize, and there’s more criminal actions associated with gang ‘wannabes,’ if you will, than people realize,” Sheriff Kenneth Tregoning said.

“We suspect that as the economy worsens, criminal activity will increase, and some of that activity will have to do with gangs.”

Carroll’s crime rate has consistently ranked among the lowest in the state, but most inmates in the detention center are there for drug-related offenses, and Darby said that much of the gang activity deals with drugs.

The county usually has one or two homicides each year, but the vandalism, trespassing and thefts that gang members commit to support drug habits can devastate residents’ quality of life, Darby said, and some try to intimidate potential witnesses.

Darby said investigators from the municipal police offices, sheriff’s office, state police and state’s attorney’s office meet each month to share trends and information on suspected gang members — a result of the Hill case.

msilvestri@baltimoreexaminer.com

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6:56 PM MST on Sun., Sep. 7, 2008 re: "Baltimore committee releases report on gangs, aims to combat problem"

 little joe said:
my name is little joe 18TH STREET MEXICAN MAFIA GANG WE ARE IN ROCKVILLE MARYLAND takoma park maryland northern va north west washinghton dc lanham maryland suitland maryland west va we are in baltimore county and city see we are getting bigger we like big time money we go back home to dallas houston and mexico and put in work we know that baltimore and the dc metro area is afican american we do not care a bout that all we care a bout is making money they are a lot of bloods gangs here in maryland but in baltimore area the LATINO GANGS ARE GETTING BIGGER WITH ms 13 vato locos they are in washinghton dc and here in baltimore city east side and are going in to west baltimore we have ties to the big boss in mexico and texas more homies are in baltimore from dallas houston mexico we work with vato locos and ms 13 beacuse we know that the baltimore latino population is small thats why we work with other gangs so we can take over blood sets neighborhoods over

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10:06 PM MST on Sat., Sep. 6, 2008 re: "Baltimore committee releases report on gangs, aims to combat problem"

 hetro cuz said:
iam part of flornecia 13 mexican gang here in baltimore area we are mexicans that do not care a bout bloods or crips we fight any blood set here in b more maryland we are strong in dundalk maryland east towson maryland patterson park white marsh maryland and middle river md we go to middle schools high schools parks malls looking for black gang members to jump we are mexicans we are new to baltimore area we roll hard we are also in brooklyn park maryland we the number 13 on the side walks in big letters in towson dundalk patterson park white marsh and middle river maryland we do not play around with blacks or whites we are from dallas houston and mexico see down in texas we fight with bloods and other latino gangs but up here in baltimore we fight WITH TREE TOP PIRUS GHOSTTOWN PIRUS BLOODS WE HAVE HAD FIGHTS WITH BLACKS IN DOWN TOWN BALTIMORE AND AT THE CLUBS BALTIMORE POLICE better becaful because we have guns to and oh we roll in the blue colors

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2:52 PM MST on Sat., Aug. 30, 2008 re: "Hundreds of gangs in Jessup prisons"

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u already know how we roll

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11:48 PM MST on Fri., Aug. 29, 2008 re: "MS-13 gang leaders found guilty, could spend life in federal prison"

 Examiner Reader said:
could a black person join

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4:48 AM MST on Mon., Aug. 18, 2008 re: "Bloods rising?"

 Ashley Baker said:
the Ubn false Bloods of a New York City housing projects lived in fear of The Vampires, the brutal gang that continually terrorizes them because of what the Ubn used to do to innocent people like slice kids faces Things change after alot of years passed by nomore random razor attacks by the false Ubn Bloods and we all have to thank the Vampires who saved our City but i always wonderd were they went i guess now i know in Maryland ?

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4:26 PM MST on Sun., Aug. 17, 2008 re: "Bloods rising?"

 real LA Blood said:
1st of all The Vampires are not Bloods they are a original NEW YORK gang they have thier own Roots plus we have them in LA we Bloods have respect for them but maryland oficials have it confused Black mob is a crip gang and there is no such thing as of a east coast blood we dont aprove of them plus piru isnt Blood get your facts right

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2:25 PM MST on Fri., Aug. 15, 2008 re: "Bloods rising?"

 Examiner Reader said:
Where is the Clergy, We have these Mega Churchs poping up all over. The Grass root healing should start right there. Every Church should have a gang prevention out reach program.

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1:58 PM MST on Fri., Aug. 15, 2008 re: "Baltimore committee releases report on gangs, aims to combat problem"

 jose said:
BALTIMORE POLICE COMMISSIONER dones not know how gangs really work i am from west coast florencia 13 we yeah we are new to the baltimore area but we know how la ca police try to stop us MEXICAN MAFIA BUT THEY have a hard time doing it because we do not tell on each other like other gangs do because they know if you tell the police you will get jump are beat up and have to move out of town we now that cental american ms 13 are one of the biggest gangs in the dc and baltimore area but we do not care a bout that we are smart we no how the drug game is ran

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1:06 PM MST on Fri., Aug. 15, 2008 re: "Bloods rising?"

 raymond cuz said:
whats homie down eme mexican mafia 18 th street gang we have sets in baltimore and pg county and northern va we are new to the dc and baltimore area we are from dallas texas houston texas long beach ca INGELWOOD CA AND EAST LOS ANGELES BARRIO WE have members from the baltimore area and the dc area that used to live in southern ca but have moved out here a bout ten years ago but we are here to party make money and will fight for are hoods if we have to homie we go to west va north carloina altlanta and back out to la to bring drugs back east we know that baltimore and dc area is differnt than back home in southern ca but we can make it any where because we are hard and strong we are a bout big time money that is it

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12:03 PM MST on Fri., Aug. 15, 2008 re: "Bloods rising?"

 Examiner Reader said:
Easy solution.. build a bigger jail. Then hit em with injunctions and rico. Call it a day...

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6:38 AM MST on Fri., Aug. 15, 2008 re: "Bloods rising?"

 Examiner Reader said:
DC is a great place for the blood gangs to start, they know that DC residents feel sorry for criminals and that they will not be convicted

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4:41 PM MST on Thu., Aug. 14, 2008 re: "Bloods rising?"

 foius said:
Unfortunately, the Bloods, Crips, El Rukhens, and other nationally syndicated gangs will only get bigger and more violent in our communties unless there are viable alternatives such as college education,living-wage jobs, and strong mentor programs which are inclusive for our black youth who have so few alternatives to the lure of gangs and their immediate inclusive relationships that embrace the youth and gives them a sense of family. It is a travesty that our so-called leaders in the community don't come forward and ask the residents to join them in combatting this problem of gang growth. Try and put yourself in the position that our young people are in right now. What do you do? Who do you turn to for help? How will you survive when they confront you with joining them? What are your alternatives? You think the answers to those questions are easy? How do we help our youth to resist these efforts at recruiting them? Live in a gang infested neighborhood and find out.

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12:05 AM MST on Wed., Jul. 23, 2008 re: "Police dismantle branches of the Crips organization in Md."

 jackson said:
LA CRIPS ARE IN SOUTH EAST DC HOOVER GANGSTER 52 CRIPS ANACOSTIA EAST side piru bloods in fairmount heights maryland bounty hunter bloods rollin 60s crips seat plesant insane gangster pirus bloods with the muder town crew mob takoma park md has ms 13 18th street eme mexican mafia and latin kings north east dc has 7th and o street crew with the triniadad mob crew south west dc ddp dominicans dont play gang this by the dc police gang unit latino gang members from los angeles are living in the dc area tortilla flats latino gang is in langly park they are also in rockville maryland florencia 13 gang is also part of the mexican mafia is in the college park area greenbelt area lanham maryland has ms 13 dominicans dont play with the hide out posse crew and the broadway gangster crips 112th in baltimore latino mexican mafia 18th street gang is in east towson maryland white marsh maryland middle river maryland other latino gangs that are moving in to the baltimore area

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1:57 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "4 alleged gang members hit with indictment"

 randy said:
if you look at nice towns like towson maryland itis mostly white but the EME MEXICAN MAFIA 18TH STREET GANG IS IN EAST TOWSON THEY ARE Also in white marsh middle river maryland rosedale maryland this gangis mexicans not cental americans they are very smart a bout what they do you are not going to see them on the streets they go out of town to put in work but they do go down town baltimore loking for girls they are new to baltimore they are from west dallas and houston and they are part of the drug trade here inbaltimore area and more are cominig from dallas and houston to bring drugs from texas and mexico

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1:48 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 18, 2008 re: "Baltimore committee releases report on gangs, aims to combat problem"

 melvin said:
SAY I LIVE IN lower park heights we as african brothers and sisters have to take pride in this area we have to go down to city hall as strong african brothers and sisters and tell city hall that we are not going to stand for the any thing any more we have been in this area for years the jewish area of park heights gets any thing they want but when it comes to are african american brothers and sisters you city hall just trun your backs on us and that is not right ok. are kids need more fun things to do in park heights we need jobs better play grounds for young kids to play those people in upper fells point fedral hill in south baltimore get what they want if you want are young kids to stop killing and hurtting other people than help them get jobs and the crime will go down and slowly we are getting more latinos in the african american areas of cental americans mexicans and dominicans which i do not have a problem with at all black and brown have to love each other as one

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2:42 PM MST on Fri., Jul. 11, 2008 re: "Police chief: Gang members who shot kids are ‘cowards’"

 kevin said:
say this not no inter net talk at all if you read the news or look it the t.v look i do not care want any body says a bout the latino gang problem here in in the baltimore some might say it true some might not and that is ok but the real deal is this baltimore never had latino gangs but want people do not know is that back in the early 90s small numbers of latinos were moving to the baltimore area but now more latinos are living here from cental america and mexico just because you do not see them on the streets that they are not here wake the hell up baltimore they are not just in the city yeah thir in small numbers but they are getting bigger hell we have 108 ms 13 gang members in the baltimore metro area and thir are other latino gangs vato locos and the eme mexican mafia 18th gang they are moving out side of baltimore like in to the areas of towson maryland dundalk maryland rosedalle maryland white marsh maryland and you might say no and that is ok but they are here

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7:15 PM MST on Thu., Jul. 3, 2008 re: "Baltimore committee releases report on gangs, aims to combat problem"

 jack said:
hi i work for the baltimore county poice gang unit and i will tell you that we do have latino gangs no they are not no where like the west coast but belive it or not the latino gang member ship in the baltimore area is growing thir is 108 ms 13 GANG MEMBERS here in the baltimore area as well as vato locos the 18th street mexican mafia they members from from dallas and the houston area they are in towson maryland rosedal maryland white marsh maryland and the haford county maryland they are also in the highlandtown area the latino gang like ms 13 most of them are cominig over from the washinghton dc area they the biggest of them all but the mexican mafia they have sets like the the 38th street gang the wild chicanos these gangs are working the drug trade here in the baltimore area we are working real hard with the FBI UNITED STATES GOVERMENT TO STOP THESE GANGS MEXICAN GANGS DID NOT USED TOcome all the way out the east coast but they are in the boston area new jersy new york

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10:46 PM MST on Sat., Jun. 21, 2008 re: "House committee doubts impact of gang bill"

 mike said:
i am african american and porto rican i am educated i live in hyattsville maryland i work with a computer company in northern va and love it you know are kids have to get a great eduction to make it in this world to day are kids have to be smart not go the streets and sell drugs or gang bang we have to teach are kids how to love not kill because i come from a diffrent neighborhood because that is what i see going on in these gang crews and it is real sad man yo kids have to stop gangs my brother works for the gang unit here in pg county maryland and he tells me that we have dominicans dont play is a big time gang in newyork city and is slowly getting bigger in the dc area with the black and gold latin kings gang gang members are also from new york city we also have bloods crips with just other neighborhood crews but it is all bad we have to wake up please wake the hell up come on lets take are neighborhoods back clean them up make it safe for all people

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3:51 PM MST on Thu., Jun. 12, 2008 re: "Anti-gang project working"

 juan said:
say i live in park heights and most of the people here work go to college and church most of the kids are goood kids it is that thir is nothing for the kids to do we need fun things for the kids like football baseball block party for the people man look we need good things for are area like they have in baltimore co park heights is jewish african american we are getting a bigger latino population like central americans some mexicans but we do have gangs like bloods crips and ms13 gang and that is sad

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6:41 AM MST on Thu., Jun. 12, 2008 re: "Police chief: Gang members who shot kids are ‘cowards’"

 Greg from Bawlmer said:
If the police department truly wants communities to get involved with fighting crime in their area, the police should get involved with the communuity. My suggestion is get the police out of their cars and onto the street, they cannot prevent crime when they just drive thru at 40mph. Get the police walking the beat, like in the old days. If the same cops are in the community everyday the residents may feel that they are going to be protected when they give info about the bad guys in their area. It also gives the police a chance to get to know the people they are supposed to protect and serve. It seems to me when I have dealt with the police that they feel they are superior to the persons in the community they are hired to serve. There will never be trust between a community and the police if the police treat the public with contempt.

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3:41 PM MST on Wed., Jun. 11, 2008 re: "Police chief: Gang members who shot kids are ‘cowards’"

 Examiner Reader said:
It's ok they only shot to little kids! Police will not do anything because their hands are tied by stupid laws that will let these bad guys off. We need to be hard on these animales, if they get ruffed up by the police then so be it or if they get killed by the police I don't care, lets get hard. Police probly don't come to your rescue because you stand there with a dumb look on your face and say I don't know who did this, or your on your camera phone trying to catch the poilce banging up a turd so you can get 5 min of fame or some money. Oh stop blaming the police because the people of Baltimore can't take care of their hood, start snitching and maybe the police can get these thugs off the street. You can blame the justice sustem because they let the thugs walk the streets.

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1:27 PM MST on Wed., Jun. 11, 2008 re: "Police chief: Gang members who shot kids are ‘cowards’"

 Examiner Reader said:
Well first of all i live in a ok part of East Balto and we have one house on the block that is the cause of anything bad happening in our neighborhood and we DO CALL THE DAMN POLICE who never show up we do care for our children aand TRUE we need to address crime but APPARENTLY WE ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS SOME PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POLICE DONT COME TO OUR RESCUE IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS PLEASE SEND THEM!!!!!

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7:30 AM MST on Wed., Jun. 11, 2008 re: "Police chief: Gang members who shot kids are ‘cowards’"

 Examiner Reader said:
Baltimore Police Commissioner Frederick Bealefeld is wrong. The gang shooters are juvenile criminals tolerated and coddled by an impotent Baltimore City juvenile justice system. The sewer of Baltimore City again reaps what is sows.

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9:03 AM MST on Tue., Jun. 10, 2008 re: "Early figures may show larger gang-crime drop"

 james said:
yo man the trinidad area of northwest washinghton dc is having gang crews fighting over the area but you also have latino gangs that are fighting over blocks to the dc police deptment dones not want people to know that latino gangs are moving back in to the city like ms13 latin kings gang and the new latino gang called ddp the dominicans dont play gang they are from new york city and they are new to the washinghton dc area they are also in suitland maryland landover mayland lanham maryland frot washinghton maryland and they are in south east anacostia area these latino gangs in the washinghton dc area and now are in the baltimore area they will fight for areas of these cities most of the washinghton dc and baltimore areas are all most all african american but the latino population is getting bigger in baltimore mexicans dominicans cental americans in washinghton dc area it has always been cental americans but now more mexicans dominicans and some porto ricans

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8:28 AM MST on Sun., Jun. 8, 2008 re: "County law officers, residents set symposium to target gangs"

 Examiner Reader said:
Gangs? That is garbage.There are no gangs of the Crips/Bloods variety in Carroll County BUT there is federal and state money available for jurisdictions that take steps to look at gang problems--whether or not the gangs exist. This is another waste of taxpayer money. Carroll has had how many gang-related deaths in, say, the past 10 years? NONE. That's right, none!

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8:46 PM MST on Wed., Jun. 4, 2008 re: "Bloods gang member pleads guilty to two murders"

 pico dominze said:
say iam dominican american more dominicans are moving to the washinghton dc area most come in and go college and work i love people i go to church baseball games i live in fairmount heights maryland in south east pg county i work at the post office in dc i like my home it is real close to the city most of people are nice but we do have gang crews like stc thug crimmnals barry frams mafia crew but you go over to seat pleasnt maryland it is all bloods over thir thir are dominicans dont play gang are in landover maryland fort washinghton maryland forestheights maryland close the south east dc area what i am trying to say is that most of us latinos are good clean hard working people we do not do drugs we want nice things out of life to but my brother works for the pg county gang unit and he say that latino gangs are moving in to african american neighborhoods like marlo heights maryland temple hills maryland but they fight with other latino gangs people have to love not fight

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8:16 PM MST on Wed., Jun. 4, 2008 re: "Police chief: District’s anti-gang laws ineffective"

 joe g said:
yo man almighty latin kings king love gold and black we are in lanham maryland greenbelt maryland hyattsville maryland suitland maryland we fight with cental american ms 13 we go up to rockville lengly park and fight them because they think they are bad boys of pg county nope they are not

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9:02 PM MST on Thu., May. 22, 2008 re: "Police chief says Howard not immune to gang violence"

 smiley said:
well i live in the oakland mills area and know both victim and suspect and they claim crip blood paper soljer they just want to b apart of something.both young they need to be in college guns has takin over good people make bad desicion in this situation a lot of bad choicesgod bless these familys in there time of need the suspect has 2 very small children that lived in the home with him and in 15 years what are they going to know about there father the state has to take care of him in jail and his children state assistance its a hard life when u have no direction

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12:52 PM MST on Thu., May. 22, 2008 re: "Police chief says Howard not immune to gang violence"

 Lifelong Columbia Resident said:
I represent the tax paying citizens that pay for yo baby daddy to be in jail and yo baby to eat on wic coupons, etc. I am tired of low income, non-voting, handout living on people blaming the gov't for everything wrong in their community. My neighborhood is nice and will stay nice because we are involved with our childrens lives, we call the police when teenagers and grown folks are hanging out drinking and selling drugs. You who let your children run wild and let people to intimidate you in your own community get what you deserve. The police are not at fault because your kids are thugs you are. All of the kids involved in the two murders in Columbia were and are thugs. Look at their records; robbery, handguns, assault, etc if you think these are "good kids" you have lost your mind. These are the parents problem not the gov't not the police. Stop the blame game, take control of your lives and your childrens lives. What happens in the area you live in IS YOUR BUSINESS.

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10:41 AM MST on Thu., May. 22, 2008 re: "Police chief says Howard not immune to gang violence"

 Real Reader said:
What, is this chief kidding? The shootings were not drug/gang related? He's either a complete dope, or he is treating US like dopes.

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7:41 AM MST on Thu., May. 22, 2008 re: "Police chief says Howard not immune to gang violence"

 Examiner Reader said:
LOL. Howard Police Chief William McMahon said the shootings in Oakland Mills this past weekend weren’t related to gangs or drugs. What part of the charging documents did McMahon not read? The document indicates McConnell “ordered the homicide over an ongoing dispute,” and police are investigating the possibility of additional suspects being involved. Reads like gang and drug activity to me.

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9:59 PM MST on Sat., May. 3, 2008 re: "Hundreds of gangs in Jessup prisons"

 Shannon H said:
I will write this with my REAL name because I am not a weak person as someone has stated on here. It's pretty sad if you sit and read all the posts. It's actually a damn shame. All any of you have done is argue and finger point EVERYONE else. It is not only an inner city problem nor is the problem of only one race. If you read the above story again, all of these gangs are of different nationalities. And who are we blaming here? The parents? Come on people, you know as well as I do the parents are not at fault here. Half of these kids, regardless of race, are KIDS that dont see anything else to look forward to. They want to be part of something and feel like they have a meaning. So, shouldnt we ask the government why they spend so much in Maryland on beautification or on the highways etc, and in the mean time keep cutting the budget in the school system and communities! And have we ask about the system arent they supposed to rehabilitate the inmates and offenders? Our taxes pay for th

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8:24 PM MST on Sat., May. 3, 2008 re: "Hundreds of gangs in Jessup prisons"

 rob said:
say man in the distric of columbia we do not have gangs bloods or crips but we do have crews like 1-5 mob 12-15 mob crew 17th street in compton barry frams mafia lych mob the choopers lincon park congress heights gangsters 7th and o street mob crew GAR FILED HEIGHTS MAFIA crew in se washinghton as well AS LA MARA 13 CENTAL AMERICAN GANG dc police are doing evey thing they can to to it kids from 10 to 18 or 19 years old the mayor is a good man he is working with kids in the neighborhoods to show them a better way to go the washinghton nationals base ball team has gone in to poor areas and have tackin kids to the ball games and the ball players do go to the middle schools and high schools to talk to kids a bout becoming better people

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1:04 PM MST on Tue., Apr. 29, 2008 re: "Bloods gang member pleads guilty to two murders"

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this is so cool

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5:08 PM MST on Sat., Apr. 26, 2008 re: "Police chief: District’s anti-gang laws ineffective"

 louis said:
you man i am dominican american from new york city and now live in green belt maryland more carrbean latinos are moving to the washinghton dc area dominicans porto ricans we come here to work own homes washinghton is a like other cities when it comes to crime and other things some whites are sick when it comes to latinos most of us are college educated and have masters so wake up we want are kids to be smart to and get a great education more of us latinos are moving in to african american areas of suitland lanham landover landover hills oxion hill fair mount heights close to south east dc

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12:08 PM MST on Thu., Apr. 24, 2008 re: "Officials: Bloods gang may look to kill one of their own"

 Examiner Reader said:
bloods are not spose to kill each others

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5:28 PM MST on Wed., Apr. 23, 2008 re: "MS-13 gang leaders found guilty, could spend life in federal prison"

 jose cruz said:
dominicans are in baltimore county neighbohoods of townson maryland white marsh randallestown dundalk owings mills patterson park in baltimore city and the broadway area of baltimore

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10:18 AM MST on Mon., Apr. 21, 2008 re: "Authorities: More than 1,000 gang members active in Montgomery County"

 REAL CRIP said:
look there is no real bloods or crips in the east coast this is the works of wanna bees i am a original Black Mob Crip i moved to Maryland and i noticed all these fakes trust me i know a Crip or Blood when i see one and these arent real but you do have to worry about gangs like MS 13,DDP,Vampires and Latin Kings know they are real

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11:47 PM MST on Sat., Apr. 19, 2008 re: "Baltimore committee releases report on gangs, aims to combat problem"

 kenny p said:
iam down with marlow heights crips in pg county maryland we have crip sets in landover lanham suitland haytts ville blood sets are in landoverhills lanham hayttsville seat pleasnt suitland maryland we have dominicans dont play ms13 vato locos and the latin kings gang look we are trying to stop fighting in areas of pg county maryland but we need jobs in pg county

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11:44 PM MST on Sat., Apr. 19, 2008 re: "Authorities: More than 1,000 gang members active in Montgomery County"

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meembership drop in 2002 now they are around but not as they use to be and now that you look at it they are one of 4 gangs that is world wide and has on and off war's with the MS-13 in other country's i just hope people could see this gang also because there is more trouble gangs then just the ms thank you good bye

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11:41 PM MST on Sat., Apr. 19, 2008 re: "Authorities: More than 1,000 gang members active in Montgomery County"

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well many people in Silver Spring, Gaithersburg, Wheaton, and Germantown know and heard of these main gang's MS-13, UBN, Rolling 60's, and last the 18th Street Gang, But what people dont know is how many 18th street gangster are in Montgomery County. In the early 90's i remember the murder rate was so high we ranked 3rd on the list, and lot's of people know why and who caused all the problems the 18th street gangsters, but many police didn't know about them nor what they where doing, but lots of people who lived in this gangs "truff" knew what was going on my older brother happened to join them in 1992 he was 12 at the time, but i never understood how come they would'nt get in to trouble just till recently my brother told me that they had rule's they had to follow, and one of them is "do not to make a scene, handle what we have to but dont make every one notice us nor what we are doing". Unlike the MS-13, the STC or LVL they 18th street gang keept to them selfs but there member

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6:46 AM MST on Fri., Apr. 18, 2008 re: "Force proposed as Pr. George’s falls behind in fighting gangs"

 Examiner Reader said:
The story is very interesting but would be easier to read if the font size changer worked! Would you please check that?

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9:29 AM MST on Tue., Apr. 15, 2008 re: "Einstein students, parents note more gang presence in region"

 Lies, Damned Lies, and Demographics said:
According to the story, the white student population decreased 11% since 2001. Since when does a 11% drop over 6 years constitute a "plummet", as Freeman Klopott reports? More importantly, what does a decreasing white population have to do with a rise in gang activity? If such activity exists, I fail to see how it relates to ethnicity.

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10:28 PM MST on Mon., Apr. 14, 2008 re: "Baltimore lawyer: Bloods using young teens as gunmen"

 jojo said:
african americans here in baltimore we have to do the right thing and make baltimore strong and african pride we have to be untied african americans take baltimore back do not lets whites take are city over whites here do not like us but as african americans we have to talk to are young black brothers and tell them that they got to stop killing young brothers i do not hate white people but thir is a lot of hate in this city we have to love are brothers and sisters baltimore can be a great city but we as brothers have to bring the crime down a lot and take back are neighborhoods before it is to let

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3:40 AM MST on Fri., Apr. 11, 2008 re: "Memo links ‘gang activity’ to weapons cache at school"

 Examiner Reader said:
I have spent a good amount of time at Einstein as a volunteer, and I disagree with the last comment completely. There are so many bright, hard-working, honest students at Einstein. It's going to take time to weed out the bad seeds, and they will embarrass the entire community as they have just done, but in the end those children who desire education and work to attain it will rise above those who don't and reclaim the school for it's intended purpose: education.

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3:05 AM MST on Fri., Apr. 11, 2008 re: "Einstein students, parents note more gang presence in region"

 Einstein student said:
If you're not in a gang, then you probably don't belong at Einstein.

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11:54 AM MST on Thu., Apr. 10, 2008 re: "Gang brawl, teacher assault renew fears about Baltimore school violence"

 Examiner Reader said:
This teacher being hit over & over again while these other students on the side lines cheering didn't stand a chance. She should press charges on each of them & sue the hell out of the parents & the principle. This is another "Animal House" Teachers walk out now!

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11:49 AM MST on Thu., Apr. 10, 2008 re: "Gang brawl, teacher assault renew fears about Baltimore school violence"

 Examiner Reader said:
The problem is more of a societal one. These kids in the city don't see any hope for themselves. The parents are absent, on drugs, or in jail. There are too many peer and social influences that are unfavorable to academic achievement. Why would you reasonably expect these children to obey a complete stranger when their own parents are absent in their lives? I feel terrible for the way these kids turn out. I see the amount of time and sacrifice I spend rearing my own children, and wish these kids had the same benefits. It's certainly not a black or white thing. But I do think there is a troubling amount of anger in the black community in low economic areas that manifests in these ways. If people would take control of their own neighborhoods they could stomp this out. Problem is in most of these communities, responsibility begins with the parents, which are in trouble themselves.

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11:33 AM MST on Thu., Apr. 10, 2008 re: "Gang brawl, teacher assault renew fears about Baltimore school violence"

 Examiner Reader said:
I think there is a serious problem in the black community about how whites feel about the current state of affairs in this country, we all need to look at this problem rationally annd decide what we can do about it. Both side are equally guilty of being racist. there are bad in all races as well as good.The negativity is magnified by black preachers spouting racist remarks which only reinforce the feelings towards whites, but you never hear much crying of foul in the black community when it is brought to light. What the blacks have to realize is that 85% of our ancesters came over on a boat too, and faced the exact same obstacles as the blacks,the italians, jews, japaneese,etc. what has to be realized is that it is the past and it can't be changed, get over it like the rest of us did and move on. This destruction of the family unit is to blame and parents need to get with the program or there won't be a future to look forward to, an

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11:29 AM MST on Thu., Apr. 10, 2008 re: "Gang brawl, teacher assault renew fears about Baltimore school violence"

 Examiner Reader said:
How will the arrogant Dr. Alonso try to cover this u, maybe give out paychecks to these thug students? The school system sucks.

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