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SAN FRANCISCO (Map, News) - The City’s homicide count continued to climb over the weekend as two men were gunned down late Saturday night in apparently unrelated shootings.

About 10:15 p.m., police arrived near the Japan Center in Japantown on a call of shots fired. Ajason Black, a 31-year-old Oakland man, was shot at Geary Boulevard and Buchanan Street. He ran across the street before collapsing, and was pronounced dead when paramedics arrived, according to police.

About 30 minutes later, officers responded to the 1000 block of Connecticut Street in The City’s Potrero Hill neighborhood on reports of shots fired. Police found 41-year-old Victor Carson, a San Francisco resident, suffering a gunshot wound to his neck, according to police.

Carson was taken to San Francisco General Hospital, where he was pronounced dead just after 11 p.m., according to the Medical Examiner’s Office. No arrests have been made in connection with either shooting and police have not released any suspect information.

The two killings bring the homicide total in San Francisco to 39 in 2008. At this same juncture in 2007, when The City tallied a decade-high 98 homicides, there were four fewer homicides. The killings in The City are on pace to surpass last year’s total, but San Francisco’s per capita murder rate is lower than at least two other Bay Area cities.

Oakland’s murder rate is more than twice that of San Francisco. The city across the Bay — with roughly half the population of San Francisco — has already tallied 44 homicides in 2008. In Richmond, a city of about 100,000 people that regularly has one of the highest per capita murder rates in the country, 11 people have been killed so far.

San Francisco’s murder rate is much higher than that of San Jose, which has tallied 13 homicides in a city larger by about 200,000 people.

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4:20 PM MST on Wed., Jul. 23, 2008 re: "Police commisioner: S.F. murder rate will get worse before it gets better"

Examiner Reader said:
1.The F.F.L.s Licences type-01 Licence Retailer Dealers. The Rate should be alot higher them the: Current Fee; $ 200.00 & F.F.L.s Licence 1st 3 years ,an State Licence Fee, is 100.00 first 3 years & Expires The Last Day &!!until renual, it 10 days Before its Expered! too. 2nd Renual F.F.L. Type-01 is $.90 2nd 3 years. And State Licence renuals is:0.$45 Fee for 3 years too! Date: 1/20.1993 too!! Solotion is: And increase is needed Badly too. Has to come now!!! The New Fee: ($ 2700.00 There Year Renual too.)$ Stste Ilcence is ($ 1350.00 Every 3, Years : Renuals too!! This will Cut the Smaller Gun: ,Retailer Dealers Down by: 0.70%+ out of Businesses too!! Reason is The smaller Gun Dealers do Favers for the Street Criminals are Roge Gun dealer do: have Crooked Deales Under The Table too. Some Are former Gangs Menbers of Gs-13 Gangs too, And Northern Mexico Gangs & Southern Mexico Gangs are very dangerous Individals in the Gun Running Trade& by .Druges Mexico Border of Florida /CA. Too!

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3:07 AM MST on Wed., Jul. 23, 2008 re: "Suspect arrested in triple shooting that killed dad, sons"

Examiner Reader said:
I played basketball with Michael Bologna at the ocean ave 24 hour fitness club. He was a nice person and a great player. This is just.....unbelievable. It's as puzzling as it is surprising. R.I.P.

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9:54 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Suspect arrested in triple shooting that killed dad, sons"

Examiner Reader said:
No wonder we have problems in this country. What the hell does this story have to do with gun. Instead of looking at the problem we have people trying to blame it on guns. G.G.

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1:45 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 22, 2008 re: "Homicide suspect held without bail"

D.Cooper said:
Interesting story and comments too. An illegal alien w/prior felony convictions is allowed to remain in country because of SF's disregard for federal law. The end result 3 American citizens shot and left for dead. I love the anti-gun comments they give me a good laugh, the gun did not kill the Americans, Ramos did. the gun is an inadament object. Anyway... thats why they call it San Fran-sicko right????

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3:56 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 15, 2008 re: "Teen killed in Bayview shooting"

Examiner Reader said:
1. Lets Limit the number of smaller Gun retailers down by o.66% cut off. P.S. the State of Texas is to wild in street Gangs groups are robbing Smaller Gun Dealers Retailers Businesses too! From 3772 F.F.L.s is Subtracted 2489 GunDealers are smaller Retailers to is- to many in one location to an the hole State of Texas, too!! This will leave about (1283 Gun Dealers is left alone to: lower the Gun Theifts of smaller Gun Dealers Busiunesses is to high in numbers too. There should be better controlls in the Renuals of the F.F.L.s Type-01 Licences to; and certain number Linit too. The mexico Druge Lards are Smuggling Guns Axcross theU.S Border to Mexico country Nation too!! Machines Guns Too!! Semiauto"s Firearms too! Coventional Firearms Weapons into Mexico nation too!!

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3:22 PM MST on Wed., Jul. 9, 2008 re: "‘Dirty look’ prompts double slaying"

David P.Curcione said:
Texas State Is #1 in the same Satutation as Crime is high as in CA. Too! There is alot more Gun Retailer Dealers to ( 3772) Type-01 F.F.L.s & StateLicences too! We need to the Bulk of the smaller Retailer Gun Dealers Gun Stores Businesses ; number"s atot down : too!! This will Stop the Roge Gun Sales is Straw Gun Sales to Street Criminals are ex fellows that serve in Jail for Druge Crimes & Murders too. Foreign Criminals of illegal Alliens in U.S. Illeghally here too!!Mexican Stret Criminals in the Druge Trade too. We need cut, to acesses to Firearms of conceal Weapons in all 50 States too! Denied Acesses to Right to Long Guns, HandGuns too! agreed to cut Street Crime out and Killing way down too!! Let"S cut off ( 2000 Type-01 Retailers Businesses Smaller Outlet"s Out! No Renuals AppLactions is Denid to Type-01/09S="s Licences an State Licences Applications is ;no Renuals or Proseseses it is Halted and Denied!!! Solution is: Let"s Put and Number Gun Dealers (Cap) N0# 500 Gun Dealers.

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2:46 PM MST on Wed., Jul. 9, 2008 re: "Shooting kills two, hurts one; S.F. hits 50 killings for 2008"

David P.Curcione said:
1. There is 10/07/2007AD. Let"s Cut the unessary Type-01 Retaiter"s Gun Dealers too! There is 2120 F.F,.L.s too. I would cut the Bulk numbers of Cheats F.F.L.s Roge Businesses Retailers:numbers down to,to lower Street Crime Down too! The hold State of CA. too! Solution is: Let"s Limted it numbers; to (300) Retailer Gun Dealers only too! And cut all the to lower Street Crines alot lower too!! Let" Cut out(1820)Gun Dealers Type-01 Licences &State Licences too: to be reduced,- to Stop Gun"S off the Street too! The A,T,.F, Should do it to cut out Roge Gun Dealers out of Businrsses too! They Leave a bad tase in your mouth as well; do you agree with the Statement as follows !!! The Cafifornia Highway Patroll Should Help the A.T.F. to Find thoses bad GunDealers doing Conceal Weapons Sales, to Ex Street Fellons Criminals that,Shouldn"t purchuse any HandGuns or Revolvers too!! Is a Criminals Affence: by Breaking the Law as well too!! Thoses GunDealers, Should not get Appl. for Type-01/09.

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2:21 PM MST on Wed., Jul. 9, 2008 re: "Shooting kills two, hurts one; S.F. hits 50 killings for 2008"

David P.Curcione said:
1. Att:California Grovernor:Mr: Schwartenager The San-Franicisco City Needs to tell The A.T.F. Crime Problem is Serious to Public threat People Safty!! They have to cut the numbers of smaller Gun Dealer Type-01 Licences out & State Licences out too!! To Stop smaller Gun shops are Roge Retailer Busineses Dealers numbers Down is to many of it"s numbers ; alot of them is to many too! The state of California is 2000 Plus Gun Dealers too. If There is to many of thoses Gun Dealers in one Spot 1/2 needs to be Reduced too. Solution: Let"s Cut dowm 1000+ Gun Dealers are: are Smaller Gun Stores too. Let"s Cut the Bulk number"s out and do it Write to Stop Street Crime down too. To Many Steets Gangs Groups (GS-13) Group is #1 in the world too!! Other Gangs Groups 6000- 7000 Poople are Dope Adicted .!! Druge Dealers too. An KingPin Dealers Wholesales Distriber Middle Men &Womwn too!! Mexican Druge Smugglers near U.S. Border too! CA. NM. AR TX

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7:39 PM MST on Sun., Jun. 29, 2008 re: "Homicide suspect held without bail"

Examiner Reader said:
Your the pansy, scared sitting at home threatening people on the computer. You don't know what your talking about. You are the most violent person on this site because you are wishing death on me.

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11:15 AM MST on Sun., Jun. 29, 2008 re: "Homicide suspect held without bail"

BazookaJoe said:
Illegal alien MS13 gang member erases a family in a sanctuary city with no fear of deportation or capital punishment. Liberal crybabies yammer on about guns being the problem because they cannot admit the atmosphere they have created allows gangs to flourish unchecked. These atrocities occur daily within black and Hispanic communities but instead of cracking down on crime, liberals want "outreach" because they see these vermin as disenfranchised, disaffected, at-risk, and distressed. These are just a few euphemisms used to describe black and Hispanic areas, not just in SF but all over the US. Gun ownership among law abiding people has never been the problem and no amount of gun laws would have stopped or mitigated filth like Ramos from rubbing people out for no reason whatsoever. SF will never have a pro-gun mentality as the people believe in appeasement of thugs and victim disarmament, all in hopes that somehow, someday they will change their ways.

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2:34 AM MST on Sun., Jun. 29, 2008 re: "Homicide suspect held without bail"

Examiner Reader said:
"You have the same mentality as the killer, because you want payback. The world should be more scared of people like you." Are you kidding with that? There's a difference between being "compassionate" and just being a pussy, you idiot! You're a gang loving piece of trash and you can go to hell! I only hope you're the next victim you pansy!

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11:25 PM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Suspect arrested in triple shooting that killed dad, sons"

Examiner Reader said:
"Eradicate gangs in sf" obviously doesn't know anything about gangs. And, he or she is just as hostile as the killer suggesting that he should get the chair. You have the same mentality as the killer, because you want payback. The world should be more scared of people like you.

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11:18 PM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Suspect arrested in triple shooting that killed dad, sons"

Examiner Reader said:
Furthermore, if you think this is the wild west then you better be on your best behavior. If you think you can just disrespect people and give them "dirty looks", then you can expect to get into violent situations. This means don't go into "bad" neighborhoods, and leave the situation if it is too risky. If you are not part of the violence then get away from it.

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11:08 PM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Suspect arrested in triple shooting that killed dad, sons"

Examiner Reader said:
I am the one saying that and I have been a target before. If you think I believe that this incident is justified then you are wrong. You can not eradicate gangs. It is not possible. Nor can you stop drugs. The country can do any kind of gun control that they want to, but the fact is that people are killed with illegal guns. Not registered ones. And the gangs are not the ones bringing these guns into the country. They are in gangs because society and people like you alienate them.

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7:11 PM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Suspect arrested in triple shooting that killed dad, sons"

SF Resident said:
I can't believe some of these comments that blame the victims. My son knew Michael, and he was a good kid. Maybe it's too scary to face the fact that thugs are running around with guns, unchecked, and can kill anyone they want at the drop of a hat, and have a statistical chance of getting away with it more in SF than anywhere else. Those who comfort themselves by saying that the victims must have provoked the shooting, are just denying that they could just as easily have been the targets. That means all of us, folks. Welcome to the Wild West.

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3:38 PM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Suspect arrested in triple shooting that killed dad, sons"

Eradicate Gangs in SF said:
Cops should eliminate gangs in SF by any means necessary. They're a menace to society and the rhetoric about them being the products of broken, fatherless homes and crack-addicted mothers got old long ago. The monster arrested for the murder of that father and his sons is a piece of trash who deserves the chair.

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3:09 AM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Third family member dies from weekend shooting"

Childhood Friend said:
R.I.P Michael, Matthew & Tony... I will never forget all the time we spent together growing up.. The years at Rooftop & afterschool/summer at Douglass park.. The love and strength in your family has always been so apparent..All of my prayers are with you. Hold strong, Danielle, Drew, and Cesca.. Always in our hearts.........

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2:03 AM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Teen killed in Bayview shooting"

Examiner Reader said:
The thing about it is that the news doesn't tell the complete story. Also, the family always tries to paint a picture that the "victim" wouldn't hurt a fly and that they were the nicest person you would ever meet. But in reality their child is a killer and that they knew that they were in trouble. In this case the killer was completely wrong. But, if you want to avoid violence you shouldn't provoke someone, especially if you have 2 kids in the car.

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1:59 AM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Teen killed in Bayview shooting"

Examiner Reader said:
That is probably true in this case

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1:52 AM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "‘Dirty look’ prompts double slaying"

Examiner Reader said:
Let's honor the family and the memory of their loved ones by being caring citizens and living our lives with honor and integrity. The next time you are not sure of the "right" thing to do remember the loss of this family and your choice will be easy.

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1:46 AM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Teen killed in Bayview shooting"

Examiner Reader said:
They always say that "the person was killed for no reason", this might be true in this case. The problem is that there is a reason for 99% of the murders. Either that person killed someone or they snitched or did something that they knew would get them killed. The news twists it around and acts like "innocent" people are getting killed, this is not true most of the time. If you do something you know can get you killed you are not innocent. Don't be fooled.

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12:08 AM MST on Thu., Jun. 26, 2008 re: "Third family member dies from weekend shooting"

Examiner Reader said:
What is this world coming to...people have no respect for human life. 3 innocent people are dead because of a dirty look? We all need to ask ourselves what the hell is going on? How do we change it? We need to something very soon. Scary thought, driving one minute then dead the next. My prayers are with the Bologna family.

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3:07 PM MST on Tue., Jun. 24, 2008 re: "‘Dirty look’ prompts double slaying"

Examiner Reader said:
Either you guys or the SF Chronicle is wrong because you guys have very different facts.

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1:59 PM MST on Tue., Jun. 24, 2008 re: "‘Dirty look’ prompts double slaying"

Friend of the family, Lincoln High School. said:
I am in total shock. The Bolognas were such a nice family. Alll my prayers are with them. And the other son, who wasnt involved in this incident, had just graduated. I saw them all at graduation, together, they were all so happy. I can't beileve people would do so much just because of a dirty look. The the hell is wrong with them??! Even though I wasnt close to the family, I cried and cried when I heard the bad news. I can't even imagine how Drew, his mom, and his little sister must be feeling. Please stay stongs guys, we're ALL here for you. ALL OF US.

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11:40 AM MST on Tue., Jun. 24, 2008 re: "‘Dirty look’ prompts double slaying"

Examiner Reader said:
Texas State to many Retailer Gun Dealers in 188 Counties in Texas State too!!!! there is 3772 F.F.L.s type-01 Licences too! By 10/07/2008 A.D. !!! Solution is: We need to cut down the Number of about 2000 F.F.L.s Licences out :is Smaller Gun Dealers too! 1.Poor Gun Sales Booklet Keeping. And Atot of Straw Gun Sales of Conceal Weapoons in Druge Dealers.KingPin Dealers Hands.By Mexico Borders too!!! Solution is: Increase Fee Of Type-01?01a Licences to Renual Fee of ( 5000.00 Per Every 3 years Renuals too! And State Licences Fee( 2500.00 Every There Renuals too! Is to Cut the Smaller Gun Dealers out of Businesses for good too! For The N.F.A. Li Type-09/011/010 No. Set $$$$ Fee !!!

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10:26 AM MST on Tue., Jun. 24, 2008 re: "‘Dirty look’ prompts double slaying"

Examiner Reader said:
This is incredible. I can't believe that there are people in San Francisco who have such little regard for human life. Let's put cameras everywhere in San Francisco to catch people like these who do not deserve to walk the earth among the rest of us! Let's catch these people and make sure they never harm another soul. Let me know what I can do to help find them as soon as possible. Makes me think capital punishment is a good thing after all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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9:06 AM MST on Tue., Jun. 24, 2008 re: "Shooting kills two, hurts one; S.F. hits 50 killings for 2008"

Tahoerabbit said:
There are no words to express my outrage over this senseless act. These could have been ANY of our family members in the victims' vehicle. So what will it take for the residents of this city of ours to actually DO something about all this violence? Do we need to bring back the Guardian Angels or do we need to resort to engaging a "Mafia-like" element to help protect us from these gun-toting criminals? God knows the entities in power in this once great city of ours are powerless to help us or don't possess the desire to do so or these things would not happen with such regularity. Serious pressure MUST be put on our Mayor, Chief of Police, District Attorney and the Board of Supervisors to do everything within their power to protect us by increasing our police force to actually deter crime. Additionally, more effort needs to be exerted in finding these miserable excuses for human beings who are going around killing innocent people and bring them to justice. The time is now!!!!!

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10:51 PM MST on Mon., Jun. 23, 2008 re: "Shooting kills two, hurts one; S.F. hits 50 killings for 2008"

Examiner Reader said:
Don't blame the Mayor, DA, or Supes - YOU citizens voted for them. Police Chief ? Meets all the feel good criteria for a "progressive" city (female,person of color, etc.). Hand picked by the person YOU voted for. As far as the dismal police record in reducing violent crime, I totally agree - it sucks. But then again, YOU have the most "censored" police dept. in the country with more oversight than any other city with the exception of Seattle or Cincinnati. Instituted by YOU - the voters, backed by the Stupidviosrs who YOU elect. News Flash: Marin is the most wacky liberal place in the U.S. but guess what, their voters our tough on crime measures. Wake up SF

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2:17 PM MST on Mon., Jun. 23, 2008 re: "Shooting kills two, hurts one; S.F. hits 50 killings for 2008"

Examiner Reader said:
I just discoverd that this is a friend of our family. I am devastated that this could happen to such a wonderful family. This was a father and his sons that this happend to. I won't mentioned any names, but this father from the Excelsior neighborhood grow up in this neighborhood and he was one of the last surviving Italian families from this neighborhood who was married to a latin women. The father was a great dad to his sons and such an easy going person. Always so pleasant and happy and very proud of his sons. This is sad that this has to happen to such a wonderful family. God Bless!

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1:44 PM MST on Mon., Jun. 23, 2008 re: "Shooting kills two, hurts one; S.F. hits 50 killings for 2008"

Examiner Reader said:
When prominent people start to get killed, then the Mayor and Chief will implement a prevention program.

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1:27 PM MST on Fri., Jun. 20, 2008 re: "‘Astronomical’ caseload hard to crack"

Gretchen said:
Money. The answer is: "money." Offer rewards for the arrest of criminals. See how long their "friends" will shelter murderers. Most of the scum out there doing drive-by and gang killings have friends who know perfectly well who the doer is, so make it more attractive to be a snitch. And to be even more effective make it a sliding rate depending on the time of the killing and the time of the snitching. $10K if snitch is same day, $7,500 for snitching within 48 hours, $5K if within a week, and $1K if withing 2 weeks. The earlier someone snitches, the more likely police can collect evidence such as GSR, weapons and witnesses. As time goes by it's much more difficult to get evidence for an arrest and conviction. Give bonuses to snitches who can provide hard evidence such as murder weapons. These skells aren't too bright, but they're smart enough to figure out how to be paid as a snitch. You'll have a line around the block of bangers wanting to turn their BFF.

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10:40 AM MST on Fri., Jun. 20, 2008 re: "‘Astronomical’ caseload hard to crack"

Examiner Reader said:
SFPD may have a problem with uncooperative witnesses, but what is the excuse for some of their recent witless behavior? I'm talking about the dead man in the impounded van and the French man's "suicide" that required France to send its own inspectors. My friend's party was shot at with a shotgun -- and two of his guests were hit -- and SFPD's attitude was more or less "what do you want us to do?"

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4:00 AM MST on Tue., May. 6, 2008 re: "Shootings increase homicide tally"

Examiner Reader said:
SF has a lower homicide rate than Oaktown or Richmond... like that's something to be proud of.

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9:10 PM MST on Mon., May. 5, 2008 re: "Shootings increase homicide tally"

DICKWEED said:
why do people even bother killing other people... i mean we should all just get along. I be these recent murders are scaring people

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8:08 PM MST on Tue., Mar. 25, 2008 re: "2008 is becoming a very deadly year for black men in The City"

Examiner Reader said:
Lots of black victims but what is always overlooked in our local media is what the murderers looked like. This is a nationwide epidemic where black males have no conscience whatsoever and just want to murder, rape, rob, assault, etc with almost no accountability. Obama says he wants to have a dialogue on race; okay fine. The problem is that we've known some inconvenient truths that no one wants to talk openly about, and the main topic should be black crime. Tired accusations of racism and disenfranchisement have lost their horsepower. Prisons are full of blacks yet the streets are full of black criminals. Look at any other city in the US and it's the same thing. Al and Jesse are always silent when atrocities like those in Tinley Park, IL, Kirkwood, MO and Knoxville TN occur (just to name a meager three out of hundreds) yet can't whoop and holler enough when a radio DJ makes a dopey, insensitive comment. Blacks need to seriously clean house, cut their losses and start over.

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4:24 PM MST on Tue., Feb. 5, 2008 re: "Teen killed in Bayview shooting"

M.S. Jackson said:
I would really love to care, but I can't. I think I lost my ability to perceive teenager gangbanger/drugthug murders as relevant about 1000 murders ago. Like the rest of the his (or her, I can't remember)peers, he will be forgotten within a week, or 5 new murders, whichever comes first. If he was eaten by a Tiger, he would be remembered - not so if he is murdered by a human. Bizarre.

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2:11 PM MST on Tue., Feb. 5, 2008 re: "Teen killed in Bayview shooting"

Examiner Reader said:
What number is this homicide in the SF '08 count?

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11:43 AM MST on Tue., Feb. 5, 2008 re: "Teen killed in Bayview shooting"

Examiner Reader said:
He died yesterday and the body count is now 12 for the year

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4:44 PM MST on Wed., Jan. 30, 2008 re: "One dead in Bayview shooting"

Seven said:
He died at SF General today. Homicide number 8 for the year.

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9:58 AM MST on Tue., Jan. 29, 2008 re: "One dead in Tenderloin shooting"

Examiner Reader said:
So was the person killed or injured?

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9:51 AM MST on Tue., Jan. 29, 2008 re: "One dead in Tenderloin shooting"

Lincoln Navigator said:
Just keepin' it real, ya'll.

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9:41 AM MST on Tue., Jan. 29, 2008 re: "One dead in Tenderloin shooting"

SF fan said:
Kinda close to City Hall. Maybe they'll do something this time.

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5:55 PM MST on Mon., Jan. 28, 2008 re: "Police commisioner: S.F. murder rate will get worse before it gets better"

Examiner Reader said:
No one on the commission is a bigger idiot than Campos. All that tard talks about is Latinos, gays and medical marijuana. Zero clue about crime and its causes, just liberal blah blah about guns and heavy handed cops.

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10:47 AM MST on Mon., Jan. 28, 2008 re: "Police commisioner: S.F. murder rate will get worse before it gets better"

Emmanuel Goldstein said:
The police commission is a joke. They should all be fired and replaced with competent people who can actually think and who are not using this position as a political stepping stone to further their political ambition. Sparks was installed into the commission because they wanted to look "liberal". She/he doesn't actually have to have any brains. Other commissioners are merely puppets of someone higher and must clear it with their boss before voting on an issue.

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9:06 AM MST on Thu., Jan. 24, 2008 re: "Police commisioner: S.F. murder rate will get worse before it gets better"

L. Amiot said:
The city's problems are the result of a lack of leadership, across the political board. Either we voted for Newson, Harris, and the Board of Supes or we didn't, but they were installed by the majority of SF voters. These elected officials are expected to be handling issues such as public safety and protection of our property as a basic and foundational part of their jobs. So if they are incompetent at addressing these primary problems that used to NOT be a such a huge problem, we should take steps to remove from office those officials who are taking our tax money and not doing their job. They work for us. Incompetent employees are given a chance to get up to speed or they are fired. The "Homeless" problem is a joke in our town. These are our sacred cows. The gun violence is a continuation of other crimes, such as drug dealing, that goes unpunished by our elected DA. Our elected officials seem to be focused on future political careers rather than the immediate glaring problems at hand

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7:59 AM MST on Thu., Jan. 24, 2008 re: "Police commisioner: S.F. murder rate will get worse before it gets better"

Tyronne Fatsengalla said:
Fire the Police Commission. Reduce the Command Staff,Increase staffing at District Station. Mandate that Lieutenants and Sergeants patrol the streets with their tropps. Develop strong leaders who will make split second decisions regardless of politics. Oooops we are in San Francisco..........

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9:04 PM MST on Wed., Jan. 23, 2008 re: "Police commisioner: S.F. murder rate will get worse before it gets better"

Examiner Reader said:
Kamala isn't a real DA by any stretch of the imagination. She is simply what latter day San Franciscans want in a DA- a pretty, biracial liberal female who starts off any discussion on crime with a "guns kill people" tirade. She actually diminishes the severity of murder allegations by saying this, as if to admit that since all guns are murder weapons to begin with, well, they are just being used for what they were made to do. She has no ideas on how to fight crime because she would end up locking up her constituency. She can't come out and blame the criminal mind because to do so would put the spotlight where it needs to be- black "culture" that promotes this filth. Dissing blacks is taboo in SF so she has to go after "safe" targets, the law abiding gun owners whom she holds accountable when someone steals their gun and it's used in a crime. To her, the violent crime is attributed to NRA members who go to gun shows, buy guns, kill people then hide behind the 2nd Amendment.

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6:17 PM MST on Wed., Jan. 23, 2008 re: "Police commisioner: S.F. murder rate will get worse before it gets better"

Examiner Reader said:
The other Examiner Reader nailed it! We cannot do anything as a city on the murder rate until everyone is on the same page! That you means YOU, supervisors! You have got to stop with the anti-cop rhetoric and actually HELP the police do their jobs. That also means YOU, K-Spice! Getting killers and other violent criminals OFF the streets means putting them IN prison! Kamala's Kids arer running wild in the city and this Obama bootlicker is far more concerned about future political ambitions than with actually doing her job. The fact that Obama takes this woman as a "crimefighter" is reason enough not to vote for him. The idea that s