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How to deal with the x-factor in relationships
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Like Dandy Don Meredith used to croon on “Monday Night Football,” “The party's ooooovvvaahhh.” The guy gets the dog, she gets the goldfish. Now what? Do you never see this person, with whom you shared your thoughts, dreams and frozen yogurt, ever again? Is a clean break the best for all? Dan and Joan, who have broken up relationships more times than an audience at a Chris Rock concert, offer their insights.

DAN: How you deal with your ex depends a lot on the history. For example, if the breakup involved tossing clothes, furniture and pianos out the window, chances are the question is moot. What was the nature of the relationship? If it was only physical, no reason to stay connected (since you won't be ... connecting). But if there was a true emotional bond, and perhaps things went south because you couldn't agree on Obama or Hillary, you might want to choose the consolation prize known as “friendship.” But not right away. I've had that experience. "OK, Dan, let's be friends. Can I see you tomorrow, please please please?" Oy Veh! I have friends I don't see/talk to for months. Give a guy some space. Chances are it was that nearly psychotic desire to take over your man’s body and soul that caused the guy to bolt in the first place.

JOAN: During a recent coffee at Starbucks, I asked two divorced women with children, Linda, 40, and Robin, 50, their feelings about maintaining a friendship with their ex’s. Linda, mother of two small sons, feels you should keep a relationship when you have children. “Keep it focused on the children.” Robin agrees. “Basically the kids need both parents no matter what you think about him. It's to the children's benefit to put their feelings before your own. You can't cut the blood.” They also agree that you shouldn't talk badly about the ex in front of the kids.

DAN: For me, that’s a no-brainer. Kids have to come first. But what if there aren’t any kids? As the fourth amigo in that “recent coffee at Starbucks,” I recall Linda’s attitude was to consign the dude to oblivion if there weren’t any children involved. In fact, I don’t believe either Robin or Linda thought men and women could, after such intimacy, just be friends. Here I beg to differ. I have several female friends I seriously dated at one point. I imagine the people in my life as investments — living stocks and bonds in which I have committed huge resources. What, I’m going to just throw that away? The late Julius Westheimer used to say that the only way you can lose money on stocks is to sell. If you hold on to them, you have a pretty good chance of bouncing back. Call it the “Financier’s Guide to Relationships.”

JOAN: Danny, have you lost your heart in your search for the perfect woman? Or have you lost your mind? That's about the coldest, hardest theory I've ever encountered. If you see women as investments, what will you do in a recession, or even worse in a depression? And Linda disagrees with you. She says, "I don't think you can be friends after a relationship. One of you usually wants more than friendship." Robin says she doesn't think you can be friends immediately, that it takes time. I agree with your comment during our Starbucks interview — “It's easier to be friends with a former girlfriend if you are in another relationship at the time. Otherwise there's an empty void.” My ex-beau from Seattle wanted to stay friends, but what would we talk about? Who we're dating? That's awkward.

DAN: Given these comments, I’d say the cold-and-hard folks here are the ones with two X chromosomes. Here’s a man you supposedly loved, shared the essence of yourself, but suddenly, that means nothing. Bye. Adios. See ya, wouldn’t wanna be ya. Truth be told, I believe men are far more sensitive than women because we shield our feelings. We haven’t built up an emotional “callous” the way you ladies have. I think more men would like to stay friends with the women in their lives, but you all convert from Cinderella to ugly stepsister once you’ve decided we’re not the one. That’s cold. That’s hard. But that’s life.

Dan Collins is a terminally single 40-something writer and local PR maven. Joan Allen is a noted matchmaker extraordinaire and author of “Celebrating Single and Getting Love Right: From Stalemate to Soulmate.”


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3:00 PM MST on Wed., Jul. 23, 2008 re: "In the game of love, sports is a major player"

Nancy-Single on the Road said:
From working with ESPN and an 90% crew of men every weekend for over 10 years, I can comment on this one! Every weekend that I show up for work, I am bombarded by comments on my outfits, and this is from men that breath and eat sports! AND THEN they quickly move on back to sports. Unless they are clothes designers, metrosexuals, or extremely in touch with their feminine side- I just don't think it merits much attention or is a top priority for men to spend time on the subject of our outfits. I think they make a mental note of our choices over time and make a mental summary (just like they would with their favorite -or soon to be not so favorite by those choices- quarterback.) Men ARE from Mars, but keep those new dresses coming without expecting a response and they will appreciate you like Venus. Even if its sharing nachos watching the game.

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2:38 PM MST on Thu., Jul. 10, 2008 re: "Survey says, trust yourself, not the research"

Nancy-Single on the Road said:
Just moved back from SoFla and your articles my Mom sent me I now enjoy right off the driveway!I've been living in the dating nightmare capital of the world for women over,well, 35 is over the hill down there.Add to that I'm 5'11" so I was one of the tallest people down there and am not enhanced with plastic surgery...yet.So,it was time to come home and meet a nice guy only to find everyone tell me its a dating nightmare HERE!(Just one reason for the move btw.)Also, I work with almost all men on the road in the TV /Sports Industry and travel alot.Bitter?Airplane for one please.You'd think it would be easy to find one crispy in a stale bag of chips, but its not! You know the OJ book,'If I Did It?' Well, mine is,"If I Dated It!" The sad part is all the stories I gather from singles(sorry Dan, usually women-the men are busy showing pictures of their wives-NOT) on the road are just as pathetic.So what words of wisdom do you have for this tall,45ish,nomadic newcomer to Balto.?

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8:25 AM MST on Sat., Jul. 5, 2008 re: "Making the most of every day, relationship"

Examiner Reader said:
"“Now I’m waiting on a birth mom in Florida. It’s very hard to find a birth mother if you are single in the U.S. I have a room set up for a baby, a rescue dog, and a new career that I love. Now I want to save a child, not the world.”" Ugh. You really need to education yourself about adoption before you consider it. If you're going in with the idea of 'rescuing' you've got a long way to go. Also, birth mother is a sexist and offensive term. It implies that a woman is only an incubator. A pregnant woman is an expectant mother.

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3:09 PM MST on Sat., Mar. 8, 2008 re: "Putting a corporate spin on the dating game"

Examiner Reader said:
Joan, try a valium.

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1:20 PM MST on Tue., Jul. 3, 2007 re: "The perilous world of online dating"

Happy Mom said:
My son went on J-Date last year, connected with a young lady living in Hawaii for a year, started talking long distance and he decided to go visit her (he figured if she didn't work out he knew he would love Hawaii). Long story short, he called 6 days later and said he loved both. They are on their honeymoon right now. My daughter met her husband on same site, he was living in Virginia, but distance didn't seem a problemk. They are now married for 3 years. So sometimes these services do work and make the parents happy to see their children happy!

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7:17 AM MST on Tue., May. 29, 2007 re: "What’s with men who date only younger women?"

Examiner Reader said:
re: "For me, it can take months to trust and truly love someone, and during that time I am open to meeting others." -- I think the ambiguity and potential conflict comes from people who say what you say but are also willing to have sex with the person in the mean time. Many people equate sex with exclusivity. If she does and you don't, there's a problem. Either you have to wait to have sex until you're ready to be exclusive, or she has to be willing to have sex without being exclusive. The problem is no one likes to talk about this until after having sex. ;-)

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