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Article History WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Lawyers and civil rights advocates are preparing Prince William County’s large and alarmed immigrant population for one of the nation’s most closely watched illegal immigration enforcement policies, set to begin Monday.
About 300 people attended a lengthy legal briefing Tuesday night at a Woodbridge restaurant, said Lisa Johnson-Firth, a lawyer with the Immigration and Human Rights Law Group in Manassas, adding demand has never been higher.
“I’ve never seen anything like it,” she said.
Police officers will begin checking the legal status of traffic violators and minor crime suspects if they have probable cause to believe someone is illegally present in the U.S. Illegal immigrants wanted by federal authorities could be deported under the new program.
Lawyers are advising immigrants to obey all laws and avoid any behavior that would attract police attention, including public intoxication and driving with a broken taillight.
Driving without a license or with a false license is the first thing to avoid, said Luis Paoli, an Alexandria lawyer with years of Immigration and Customs Enforcement experience.
“If you don’t have a driver’s license, don’t drive,” Paoli said.
If an illegal immigrant or immigrant unsure of his legal status is questioned by police under the new policy, Johnson-Firth said, he should not speak without a lawyer present.
“Remain silent. Remain silent. Remain silent. Request a lawyer,” Johnson-Firth said.
Legal immigrants should keep all documents up to date and carry their green cards or permanent documents, said Kathy Doan, executive director of the Capital Area Immigrants’ Rights Coalition.
Families also are being instructed to prepare notarized documents granting power of attorney to a relative or friend who is a legal permanent resident or citizen. That is a critical step for parents of children who would remain behind if they are deported.
Immigrant rights lawyers have protested the county’s policy and said they would review cases for potential legal challenges after its implementation next week.
Prince William County Chairman Corey Stewart, a champion of the crackdown, on Wednesday called the plan a public safety initiative.
He added his own advice Wednesday: “If you’re illegal, leave.” For those who stay, “at a bare minimum, keep your nose clean.”
dgenz@dcexaminer.com
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Examiner Reader said:
"They are ignorant, filthy, backward and likely to stay that way generation after generation. They breed like rats and are quickly trashing our country, turning many areas into filthy little mexicos..." Dont forget how the raise their children. They put short skirts on small girls and they encourage poor diets. I was eating at a restaurant and watched as a hispanic family ate breakfast while their infant was dringing the creamers!!!
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kgotthardt said:
1. A policy that was passed in 2008 couldn't have brought down crime stats in 2007 even if the policy were announced in 2007. 2. PWC's crime rate has decreased every year for the last five years, with and without the "resolution." 3. Foreclosures have forced many people to leave the county. When fewer people live in the county, it makes sense the crime rate might drop as well. 4. The police have implemented new investigations procedures (unrelated to immigration) that have also reduced crime. Stewart is using these stats for his own advantage, and too few people are analyzing what the numbers really mean.
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Examiner Reader said:
Lets make one thing clear, I know some hard working LEGAL immigrants from mexico, and they do not support ILLEGAL immigration! They have to go through the system which takes years, and millions of illegals give the legals bad names and reputations. Bottom line is, illegal immigration is ILLEGAL!! But the media will tell you its not. Liberals have forgotten the word illegal. Oh and when the day comes Obama wants to give illegals health care and you support it, then dont bitch and moan when you have to wait in line behind an illegal alien to get yours or a love ones surgery to save them.
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Examiner Reader said:
I doubt murder is going "un-reported" as Lyall says. its the same all the time...these advocay groups can always make the numbers show somehting else if they massage' them enough. The fact are what they are! Wake up America
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Nikki in CT said:
All we have to do here in lower fairfield county is to read the police blotter. The names speak for themselves. Our mayor insists that crime is going down, but he doesn't address the crimes committed are by the same people. Most of the crimes in our blotter are hispanic names, russian and albanian names. These are people that are illegally coming into our city and nothing is being done about it. I just hope that eventually these crazy political leaders will stand up and say "enough is enough". OUr taxes sky high, our schools not save, test scores down. We have a relative on the police force and he said that half the crime is not even reported in the news. Sad, but we continue to proctect these leeches. If it was an American Citizens or an American teenager (especially a white person) they would get the book thrown at them and the key taken away. Sad..............
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Examiner Reader said:
I could care less about crimes committed against illegal aliens. If they weren't here, they wouldn't be victimized. They should take some personal responsibility. I'm worried about crime against people who live by the law and who belong here.
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Mike in MD said:
Who'd thunk it? There is a reason why approx 31% of our federal prison inmates are illegal aliens. As for those crying our ancestors were 'illegal' - I dont know about you but my ancestors had to come through Ellis Island.
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Examiner Reader said:
There are places in San Francisco where you would swear you were in Mexico. The horrible markets, smell of urine, dirty conditions. And its all because the legal and illegal Mexicans (its not the Sweedish or Polish community, lets call it what it is!) don't want to come to America and be Americans. They want to come to America and be Mexicans enjoying American benefits. They're here not for an "opportunity" as the propagandists say, but because we give everything away for free. Free health care, free education, and in turn the CITIZENS pay the price and incur the burdon of the leeches on the system. Unskilled labor work is fleeing the USA in boat loads, so why do we want to flood our cities with foreign unskilled laborers? The answer is clear: eliminate the free education (you can't even ASK immigration status to students!), eliminate emergency rooms being Immigrant Clinics (you get sicker at the hospital) and repeal automatic citizenship to newborns, they'll deport themselv
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Examiner Reader said:
"You have no right, and if the system wasn't so broken and it didn't take people tens of years to come legally, there'd be more legal immigrants." What makes anyone think it's o.k. to come here illegally just because they are unable to come here legally? We don't want these people here legally either. We cannot support millions of third world peasants! They are ignorant, filthy, backward and likely to stay that way generation after generation. They breed like rats and are quickly trashing our country, turning many areas into filthy little mexicos.
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Examiner Reader. said:
Where in the heck do all of you get off? Almost every one of your ancestors came to this country 'illegally'. At least when these ones came, they didn't all but exterminate the Native Americans. You have no right, and if the system wasn't so broken and it didn't take people tens of years to come legally, there'd be more legal immigrants. People want to come for a better life, but can only do it, if there's some natural disaster or political asylum. Please, every one of you racists need to get off your high horse. The ones that are here need to pay taxes, that's all. If we sent them all away the economy would crash because your lazy butts dont' want to do the work they do
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Mexicans Without Borders must leave too!!!! said:
The crime rate will continue to decline as long as the Resolution is enforced and laws are obeyed in regards to illegal immigration. They will continue to flee to sanctuary areas. Sanctuary areas enjoy your coming higher taxes. LOL
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Examiner Reader said:
Go Virginia! I wish my state had some backbone like you! Save the U.S.A. Mike Savage for POTUS!
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But Nancy Lyall of Mexicans Without Borders, an immigrant advocacy group, said that the declining crime rates are misleading. EXAMINER.COM RELATED ARTICLES Official: Immigration crackdown pushes down crime Pr. William supervisors present vision for future of county transit Revisions to immigration policy take effect July 1 Senate RollCall-SB6009-Saslaw transportation bill Area schools officials gird for tightened 2010 budgets “To attribute the crime rate to the [immigrant] resolution is not true,” she said. “It may be impacting the crime rate, but it’s not impacting the crime, especially against the immigrant community. There are a lot of crimes unreported [now] because immigrants are afraid of going to the police.” ================================== I don't believe her at all. But if she can prove that statement.. fine. In the meantime.. another tall tale from the foks Mexico City is supporting.
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Examiner Reader said:
The only people responding to this article are from Prince William county - what do you expect - ignorance is bliss!
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Examiner Reader said:
"illegal immigrants" should not be protected since thery are in the US illegally. People who break the law to come into this country will of coarse not hold our laws in any regard. The legal groups that protect the "illegals" always try to leave out the word "illegal" which legally is a lie.
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Examiner Reader said:
finally a positive story on the illegal immigration problem. keep the pressure on these invaders PWC! im tired of the lack of respect from these people everywhere i go... hello..please and thank you, you know.
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Examiner Reader said:
great article...please keep it up
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Examiner Reader said:
How about we start a group called "Americans WANT borders" - Sick and tired of illegal immigrants!
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Examiner Reader said:
How does Nancy Lyall even sleep at night knowingly representing people who are breaking the Law. Maybe if her ID/SSN were used by some illegal and the IRS on all over her she might change her mind like it has happened to other law abiding American citizens. Hmm then we have idiots here in California who think Special Order 40 is good for LA even after illegal immigrant gang members slaughter American citizens..SAD, its no wonder I dislike Liberals
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Dave In Calif. Central Mountains said:
But George "I'm an idiot" Bush keeps saying that they're only here doing the jobs Americans won't do. Hmmmm, could he be wrong??
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David K said:
This goes to show what a joke the UN is. If this is really how the UN operates, then the UN can go to hell (or Darfur, or China, or Zimbabwe, etc.) and stay the hell out of PWC. In fact they should stay the hell out of the United States altogether.
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Examiner Reader said:
In regards to Ilegal Immigrants, they should all be arrested and deported. this country was built on all cultures however there is a process of getting into this country and we are a country of laws. Granting amnesty is not the solution. Do you think that if we went to another country they would allow is to stay if we were not there legally? not a chance they would toss us out and rightfully so. I live in the DC Area and have seen what the illegals have done to what used to be nice areas to live..they purchased my parents nice house and have since left (forclosed big surprise)and turned a beautiful 4 br house into a tenant house. It made me sick to see what they did to it, cars and appliances in the front yard to many families living in it....Deport them all, and if the children came from illegals they should not be given citizenship just because they were born here, thier parents were here illegally so they are as well.
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Examiner Reader said:
It is a shame that everyone is too busy living their lives to care about the crackdown on illegal immigrants in PWC.I know a mother who is being deported because she did not have her papers with her during a traffic stop in PWC for failure to have a current sticker on her car-it had expired 2 days earlier. Her daughter (5) is a US citizen and has had several hip replacement surgeries and her mother was still in the process of getting her citizenship (it can take years). It was the first time that she had resources to help her. PWC took those away and denied her rights-makes you wonder how many other working mothers they have taken away from their children. I know nothing will be done until a hispanic member of Congress gets stopped in PWC. Please do not believe that the crime rate is due to the deportation of illegal immigrants - instead, we as the taxpayers are getting stuck with the bills for deportation! PWC has seen a decline in revenue and will continue to do so!
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SPQR_US said:
Jorge Bustamante and his corrupt masters in the UN delight in the slaughter of africans and American citizens. Jorge Bustamante wants the rape and slaughter of Africans and Americans to happen at the hands of his drunken drug dealing illegal alien countrymen from Mexico. Of course the UN cares nothing for humanity and is worthless but WITNESS it cower at the clear threat of the witholding if US taxpayer largesse...What a pathetic joke is the UN.
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Examiner Reader said:
Tell ya what ..... The U.N. (absolutely useless anyway) can go to Mexico and central/south american countries and take a look at the horrendous treatment of people caught violating/compromising MEXICO'S southern border. Mexico is the absolute unmitigated'leader in hypocracy! What unmitigated chutzpah!
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Examiner Reader said:
Most of the biased press will never reveal this information to you? For those people who keep insisting that illegal aliens do not receive any federal free handouts. www.eagleforum.org/sources/ Our government already skims quietly of your wage packet 356 billion dollars to support illegal low income workers annually. However this is just a small portion of the enormous cost, that has been going on behind your backs for decades.This doesn't include education, free health care or prison services and much more not listed. You wont believe this: www.townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/06/12/viral_video_on_immigration_costs If your sick of it, DEMAND your Democrats enorse the Federal SAVE ACT (H.R. 4088) You decide here: NUMBERSUSA
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Examiner Reader said:
The media will not reveal the ugly truth? About the incessant murders, female and child violations, burglarized homes, carjackings, kidnapping the drunken drivers and the carnage that goes on in every community within our borders. Once upon a time people were able to leave their door unlocked, windows open, car keys still in the ignition; not any more. Then each day their is an incessant small reports of (DUI) intoxicated illegal immigrants, not generally found in the national press. These incidents are mostly suppressed because of the current uproar about the illegal immigration invasion. Our courts are overworked, our jails and prisons full, so many of these individuals are released back into the general public again. Many receive a slap on the wrist and then go out on the roads, to ultimately kill innocent families. As an example Special Order 40 in Los Angeles county has allowed violent gangs to propagates.
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Examiner Reader said:
Tell the United Nation Inspector to check on civil rights violations in Mexico, Central America, before he sticks his nose in the United States affairs. NUMBERSUSA.
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Examiner Reader said:
This inspecter needs to go to China and other Countries and inspect the child slave labor. And stay the hell out of America. Democrats are out to give our Country away to whom ever wants to be here. I just reregistered as a Independent after being a dem for years. I am fed up with the do nothing dems and will never vote for another after seeing them block the save act, and blocking drilling for oil in America. And Obama will not get my vote as he wants to give amnesty to all the illegals that are here.
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Examiner Reader said:
That idiot Nancy Lyall is at it again, I see. What human rights violations are occuring in PWC? People--no matter who they are--get their status checked when they are arrested. How is that a human rights violation? Ms. Lyall--get a life and stop spewing your hatred. It's you and your ilk who are inciting fear among the illegals.
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Veterans vs Amensty said:
The Democrats advocating for amnesty are saying that citizenship for illegal immigrants will cost them each a $5,000 fee. In reality, what these politicians are saying is that the lives of the brave heroes we lost in this war on terror are each only worth $5,000. In Pennsylvania we have veterans living underneath bridges and employed illegal immigrants living in the rental properties. How can our government propose to give amnesty to 20 million low-wage-earning illegal immigrants, all of whom will then be eligible for free government welfare programs, when it cannot help just a few hundred thousand veterans, many of whom just need proper medical care or are truly homeless or unemployed?
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Veterans vs Amensty said:
I watched Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., hard at work two months ago on C-Span, showing on his charts how seven million U.S. citizens are presently unemployed. He also showed how presently there are only four million jobs available in the United States. How can Democrats push for the amnesty of 20 million illegal immigrants, while providing us with the best evidence against it? Illegal immigrants are the biggest contributors to unemployment in the United States, and they are forcing many U.S. citizens into early retirement. Two illegal immigrants are working for the price of one American and with no employee benefits. They help the employer in the present and future. My school taxes have doubled because of the illegal immigrants’ many, many children in our public schools. While our troops are bravely fighting for freedom in the Middle East, at home it appears freedom is free for illegal immigrants as they invade our nation. The Democrats advocating for amnesty are saying that citizens
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Examiner Reader said:
Wow what a joke! Bush stated that if we demonstrate a working democracy in Irag the rest of the Countries would also become Democractic and hold free elections! WELL what has happened to our influence in Mexico I think they have been our neighbors for a while plus their patriotic folks even go back and forth . How about just starting with a minimum wage in Mexico! WE ARE THE VICTIMS OF THE MEXICAN INVASION AND RECONQUISTA, LA RAZA MOVEMENT--maybe we need to contact the UN and let them sort it out.
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Examiner Reader-another said:
Frankly, I view illegal immigration as not only a violation of MY human rights but also of my rights as an American citizen. Illegal immigration dilutes my vote (Census figures including illegal aliens are used to apportion Congressional seats) and uses money that should be spent on services for Americans and legal residents. Government's willful failure to enforce immigration law represents corruption at the highest levels.
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Examiner Reader said:
Bustamante should review HUMAN RIGHT in CHINA,DARFU, SUDAN,IRAN,CUBA,RUSSIA,VENEZUELA before he look at PWC.
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Examiner Reader said:
He should work on getting Mexico to take care if it's citizens instead of worrying about a bunch of illegal criminals in the US. Then the illegals would not be here to abuse our taxpayer funded systems. The U.N is not neede or welcomed. Stay the heck out of PWC and the USA, Bustamante.
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Mexicans Without Borders must leave too!!!! said:
They need to fix the problems in their home country before they complain about the US, a country they are illegally trying to take advantage of.
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Against Illegal immigrants!!!! 100% said:
Ha, ha, looks like PWC called the illegals bluff. When you play with the bulls, prepare to get the horns. UN can't even police itself. LOL
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lccat said:
U.N. out of the United States and the United States out of the U.N.!
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Examiner Reader said:
What right does a U.N. Investigator think he has to attempt interference in our laws. Mexicans w/o Borders needs to work on cleaning up Mexico's crooked government and leave America alone. If your illegal, get out. I had an illegal come into the shop today to try and buy a Harley (he said he was illegal). Where's INS when you need them. I don't care if he was peaceful, he's still illegal. I would have said something, but, I need my job. The U.N. needs to worry about countries that have real problems and stay the He$$ out of the U.S.A.
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Examiner Reader said:
Sunlight is the best disinfectant for "Human Rights" cockroaches like this, who have nothing better to do with their time, and whose idea of human rights is vested in the UN Human Rights Commissions, manned by the world's coterie of thugs, religious nutjobs, murderers and other fine fellows. A quick time in Iran to investigate gay rights (perhaps Bustamante might declare himself to be openly gay and watch the fun begin?) might be in order. Yeah, that's the ticket. One-way of course.
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Examiner Reader said:
Hey RedCorn, your ancestors did attempt to throw out the immigrants. In 1675 they set out to commit genocide against the New England settlers. The settlers proportionally lost more people to Indian massacres than any other war America fought.
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Examiner Reader said:
Unbelievable.. that the US would actually allow the UN on our soil is beyond my comprehension. They are global socialists who are only interested in lining their own pockets. Too bad the words of James Madison fall on deaf ears these days, even the most recent words of Pat Buchanan are ignored: " When I am president, i would tell the UN to get off of US soil, if they dragged their feet I would inform them I could have 2400 US marines there within 24 hours to help them pack"
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Examiner Reader said:
why don't the UN do something for the world, and stop supporting big buisness. If they want the illegal's they can have them. This is America not mexico or the World. clean up your own country before you blame someone else.!! If you don't like it here LEAVE.
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Dakota said:
I wonder when Bustamante is going to investigate the human rights violations of rape, murder, robbery going on in MX against those from Central America illegally entering MX. Further his man is the same one that drafted the change in MX Constitution to allow dual citizenship for the sole purpose of effecting the elections in the US. He further called for HIspanics to boycott in the US effecting our economy which is Sedition during a declared war. I hope the good people of Prince William will show this man the door. If you back down, you will end up with the same crime & violence we are going through here in one of the border states.
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Examiner Reader said:
I am hoping that the average citizen recognizes the danger of the UN in our own backyard. What will follow? Peacekeepers from Uganda to ensure that our fine citizens cause no harm to the hispanic gangs? Keep the UN out! We are doing just fine without their involvement in any capacity.
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