Commentary - Quin-essential Cases: Immunity Request Is No Phone-y Plea
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We've seen it in James Bond movies or super-cop flicks hundreds of times: The spy or the policeman jumps into a vehicle, flashes some fancy identification badge, and orders the driver (or helmsman or conductor) to break all known speed limits or other regulations while chasing some bad guy or intercept delivery of a bomb.

Audience members never question whether the driver has any real choice in the matter. Nor should they. Simple duty demands that the driver comply. And longstanding common law doctrine holds that the driver is immune from any rules violated in the process of complying with an official order whose lawfulness he has no clear grounds to question.

As Judge Benjamin Cardozo (later a Supreme Court justice) wrote in the New York case Babbington v. Yellow Taxi Corp., "the citizenry may be called upon to enforce the justice of the State, not faintly and with lagging steps, but honestly and bravely and with whatever implements and facilities are convenient and at hand."

Today (or perhaps tomorrow), the Senate will consider a bill provision that tests this doctrine. The question is whether to retroactively provide immunity to phone companies (telecoms) that complied with written requests for cooperation with classified counterterrorism efforts.

Former Attorney General John Ashcroft has written that "American lives [are] at risk" if the phone companies are allowed to be sued for invasion of privacy. Former Sen. Bob Kerrey, D-NE, a member of the 9/11 commission, wrote that if the companies can be sued, "the entire system for investigating terrorism may be fundamentally undermined."

The Senate Intelligence Committee, charged by law with monitoring secret counterterrorism efforts, voted 13-2 to provide immunity for the telecoms. Chairman John Rockefeller IV, a liberal Democrat who otherwise is a big critic of President George W. Bush's "warrantless surveillance" program, wrote recently in The Washington Post that making American business vulnerable to such suits would mean "our intelligence collection could come to a screeching halt."

As it is, dozens of class action lawsuits against various phone companies have been consolidated into one massive case in federal district court in San Francisco. Some of the suits request only "declaratory" and "injunctive" relief – the equivalent of a "cease and desist" order against the telecoms – but others seek monetary damages.

To get a sense of the possible scope of these suits, consider that Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-CA, has suggested that the federal government cover any judgments against the companies, and has proposed a fund of $30 billion for the purpose. Whether for the companies or the taxpayers, that's not exactly chump change.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a party to at least two of the lawsuits (seeking only declaratory, not monetary, relief). ACLU legislative consultant Michelle Richardson said it is not only the government officials who may have broken the law. "It takes two to tango," she told me. "The companies knew it was illegal. There is no way that sophisticated companies like that could ignore the Constitution, FISA [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act], and 30 years of history of working with law enforcement on wiretaps."

But it is far from clear that anything illegal was done, much less that the companies knew of illegalities. In 2002, the special FISA court noted (in In re Sealed Case) that "all the other courts to have decided the issue [have] held that the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information…. We take for granted that the President does have that authority."

Meanwhile, in the Senate Intelligence Committee noted in its official bill report that the telecoms repeatedly acted pursuant to official letters which "state that the activities had been authorized by the President" and that "also stated that the activities had been determined to be lawful."

In short, the surveillance itself may well have been legal; and even if it wasn't, the phone companies had every reason to believe that it was. They should not be scapegoats for citizens worried that the government may have overstepped some technical bounds in an effort to ward off mass murder. Instead, they ought to be thanked.

Quin Hillyer is associate editorial page editor of The Examiner. He can be reached at qhillyer@gmail.com.

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3:08 PM MST on Tue., Mar. 25, 2008 re: "Is the welcome mat really welcome?"

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Hey to all reactionary idiots: how about you move NORTH of the mexican border? You know, the one that runs through 2 california, along n mexico and arizona, and down throu east texas? and lets not forget the hispanic carribean nation on florida. how is it puerto rico is "u.s." but other central americans are "illegals"?

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4:53 PM MST on Fri., Feb. 8, 2008 re: "Quin-essential Cases: Immunity Request Is No Phone-y Plea"

dan of steele said:
So in simple terms, the republican stance is that telecoms are to be allowed to break the law without consequence and that the government should be allowed to continue to spy on us without a warrant. all the crap about terrorists is just smoke....right?

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5:51 AM MST on Mon., Jan. 28, 2008 re: "Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent"

lorin mccann said:
Wonder what happends when the computer goes down???

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7:13 PM MST on Sun., Jan. 27, 2008 re: "Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent"

Examiner Reader said:
Anyone who understands how government operates can foresee how REAL ID will be used against law-abiding citizens instead of terrorists. Recall that the Social Security Number was never intended to be used as an all-purpose identifier. The Federal income tax was originally going to apply only to the super-rich, and take less than 10 percent. Give government an inch and they take a mile. Ms. Scarborough has it exactly right. The government scares people and claims it needs this new infringement on privacy to fight the trrists, but eventually the REAL ID will be used to, as she says, "ground" adults over child support or library fines. That sounds like Orwellian hell to me. Did we really fight a World War against the Nazis, and a Cold War against the Soviets, only to adopt the kind of police-state people control mechanism that made us hate and fear totalitarian societies? Frankly, that scares me a lot more than the slim possibility of terrorism.

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2:14 AM MST on Sat., Jan. 26, 2008 re: "Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent"

Examiner Reader said:
I totally agree with this article. History keeps repeating itself. Having to show papers or be tracked is against everything America stands for - individual rights and liberties.

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3:44 PM MST on Thu., Jan. 24, 2008 re: "Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent"

Examiner Reader said:
With IHS (Intelligent Highway System) your current RFID drivers license and RFID inspection stickers are read as you drive down the highways. Watch for two hexagons cut into each line like at stop lights and a metal box usually on a pole at the side of the road. They have fiber, telephone and radio relay of data.

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12:49 PM MST on Thu., Jan. 24, 2008 re: "Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent"

Examiner Reader said:
I totally agree with this article...I'm glad to see this info. being disseminated in mainstream venues. As for "tired's" rant, this law should be examined in a historical context and to minimize the similarities that exist between the beginnings of Nazi Germany and what is going on now is naive at best, fascist propaganda at worst.

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3:22 PM MST on Tue., Jan. 22, 2008 re: "Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent"

USN said:
Welcome to Amerika?? That's about as far as I got with your article. It’s childish and it’s usually leftists who do this.

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2:17 PM MST on Tue., Jan. 22, 2008 re: "Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent"

TERRY AGHEE said:
And tell us Melanie, just how are you going to keep our children and our grandkids safe? What exactly is your plan? You see to think that there is absolutely no difficulty with terrorists anymore - does that mean that you will just forget about illegal aliens and armed therrorists? Will you sleep well now?

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4:30 PM MST on Mon., Jan. 21, 2008 re: "Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent"

Tired of all the ACLU lies about REAL ID said:
Your columnist either hasn't done her homework (read the final Rule or the Driver Privacy Protection Act--fed. law) or she's bought into that bunch of lies being circulated by the ACLU. REAL ID will require background checks on all DMV employees-getting rid of the bad apples up front will increase privacy protections, not decrease them.And as for the info. encoded on the mag stripe/barcode--check your facts,MD and a lot of other states do that already.The info is the same as on the face of the DL-its a security feature against tampering.It's no diff. than copying the info off the front of a DL-same info. Anyone who has a commercial DL knows the DMV already checks to see if you have a CDL in any other state. It's a pointer system--what REAL ID will have--not an open database. REAL ID is far from perfect but it's not the privacy monster the ACLU wants us to believe.Oh, & fed. law lets states suspend DLs of deadbeats who don't pay child support. Do you have a problem w/that too, Mel

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12:06 PM MST on Mon., Jan. 21, 2008 re: "Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent"

David of NM said:
What a great article. It is somewhat encouraging to me that more people seem to be getting wise to the dangerous REAL ID Act. The writer wrote mostly about privacy,security and expansion concerns and not so much about cost concerns. The real problems with REAL ID are not cost related. I keep writing my representatives, asking for repeal, but I get a canned Republican National Committee instead. The Republicans are largely the drivers of REAL ID. Rep. Sensenbrenner R-WI seized on the 9/11 Commission report that called for more secure licenses. He authored the abomination called the REAL ID Act of 2005 so he could come out of obscurity and be a legislative superstar. Today, Sensenbrenner refers to REAL ID as "his baby". DIGIMARC Corp. of Oregon has contributed much money to be used for grants to States for the purpose of softening opposition to REAL ID. DIGIMARC, a worldwide company selling National ID card making equipment and related services stands to make millions off REAL ID

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2:19 PM MST on Tue., Nov. 13, 2007 re: "Is the welcome mat really welcome?"

an irate citizen because of an irate citizen said:
Yeah this country was founded by immigrants, and the only reason why there is such an outcry to stop it, is because now we're getting the kind we don't want. The kind with brown skin. Stolen social security benefits? I don't think so. If an immigrant used a stolen social security number to get a job, they're paying taxes too and rarely if ever redeem benefits for fear of getting caught. Cockroaches (usually a racial slur),shoot to kill? Wow,let me know how the next klan meeting goes.

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5:53 PM MST on Sun., Nov. 4, 2007 re: "Is the welcome mat really welcome?"

reader said:
"even the best national policies won't work if local governments undermine them. And for years, some governments have been doing all they could to thwart federal immigration policy." - No duh...

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7:51 AM MST on Sat., Nov. 3, 2007 re: "Is the welcome mat really welcome?"

An Irate Citizen said:
This Country was started by immigrants from the United Kingdom and Europe and has subsequently always welcomed legal immigration. However, in our recent history we have been beseiged by people who simply crawl over our borders like cockroaches. These borders should be patrolled by soldiers who have the authority to shoot to kill anyone who tries to enter the country illegally. Also those who are here and who are not here legally should be rounded up and immediately deported. No "ifs, ands or buts" about it. Amongst other things, the illegals are stealing our social security benefits and ruining our health care system. It can not continue. I plead with all of you to contact your representatives in Congress and any presidential candidate you're supporting and tell them you want action and that you want action now. Please do this today if you love your family and you love your country.

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8:46 PM MST on Fri., Aug. 10, 2007 re: "Is it "pay for play" time in Spitzer's New York?"

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When Spitzer was AG of New York he carefully target his prosecutions of Wall Street and the Insurance industry. Those not targeted soon got the message that they were to pay up campaign contributions or else. Spitzer ran the New York AG's office like a gangster and it seems he runs the governor's office like a gangster too.

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2:44 PM MST on Fri., Aug. 10, 2007 re: "Is it "pay for play" time in Spitzer's New York?"

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FWIW, the Neighborhood Preservation PAF is the rent stabilized apartment owners PAC many of whom *hate* Spitzer.

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